99%? Who wants to be a part of the 100%?

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That's why I think the OWS majority is just being duped.....the cold war is back....like it or not

Hope for the best but plan for the worst!

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That's happening because some of the better parts of communism appeal to a group of people that feel they have very little chance of getting anywhere in society. If our government took the money effort away from finding ex-cons jobs, and put it into helping young and inexperienced workers, they might feel a bit better about it.

Originally posted by Thestargateisreal
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

Read the link I posted on an article from the NY times about the tyranny of Joseph Stalin. The man was crazy, that wasn't communism. He alone is to blame for the conditions in Soviet Russia.

Originally posted by Thestargateisreal
www.nytimes.com...

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That's such baloney. I dont need to read some idiotic article about Stalin. He was in the original group of Bolsheviks, in the original revolution. Don't try to convince me hes really just a fascist thug. That is baloney cooked up by people who are deceiving people to get an agenda.


Anyway, were you aware that Lenin was the first Communist leader in Russia? Stalin was his successor. I'm just flabbergasted at the stuff being passed as history.

Can someone please provide a unified opinion/description of the "1%" so I can figure out whether I am one of them or not? Just need to know what side of this silly class war that I'm on.

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus


Ask a Russian how they feel about him.

Obviously, I read the article. Things didn't hit the fan until Stalin took over, which is why they lost the cold war.

reply to post by Thestargateisreal


I totally agree the government spends OUR money very wastefully and unwisely

I also know everytime Communism raises it's ugly head, TPTB weilding it say, DONT WORRY, those last guys just weren't doing it right!

But it always ends the same

The People lose, far WORSE than what the US is going through right now

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus


Well they all seem to believe it, probably what the school books taught them

reply to post by Cinaed


School teaches, communism EEEEEEVIL! Schools are communist states though.

reply to post by LibertyCrazy


sorry I can't help you Im just a disinformation agent and a troll

The problem I have will all this 99% business is they make it sound like the whole country wants what they want. I am not in the 1% and I guarantee you I do not want what this 99% is aiming for

Originally posted by Thestargateisreal
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

Ask a Russian how they feel about him.

Obviously, I read the article. Things didn't hit the fan until Stalin took over, which is why they lost the cold war.

edit on 8-10-2011 by Thestargateisreal because: (no reason given)

Look, I had a Russian dance instructor from Astrakhan and I know how they feel. It doesnt' make Stalin less communist though lol

Originally posted by Thestargateisreal
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

Ask a Russian how they feel about him.

Obviously, I read the article. Things didn't hit the fan until Stalin took over, which is why they lost the cold war.

edit on 8-10-2011 by Thestargateisreal because: (no reason given)

"My great-grandfather tried to begin the process of freeing Russia from Stalin's bloody past, but the nation has never fully dealt with the crimes of Stalinism. Instead, the complexities of life in a fragmented modern society that can boast of no momentous achievements -- no more superpower status, no new Sputniks -- have made Russians nostalgic for the "strong state" they once inhabited. It's a cycle that will keep on repeating itself until Russia finally and fully confronts its past. "

Why Russia Still Loves Stalin

Originally posted by Thestargateisreal
reply to post by Cinaed

 

School teaches, communism EEEEEEVIL!

Schools are communist states though.

So, Lenin was the idealist, textbook communism. Stalin was an enforcer. How does that make him less of a communist? You dont know what you are talking about.

Let's start with a definition of communis. You tell me what you think it is, then I will tell you what I think. Fair?

Oh yah, a friend of mine is from a former communist country and he says that martial law is coming. He sees the signs.

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus


Just because he is communist, doesn't make him good or evil. Who knows what his problem was. It could've been a personality trait, not any belief he had.

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus


Stalin took enforcement too far. He had mental problems. If I had to guess what his issue was, I'd say his ego got entirely too large, and his sense of justice was jaded from his early years in the revolution. It doesn't really matter, it doesn't mean that communism is inherently evil.

I'm sure you're aware of what they say about absolute power.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by Thestargateisreal
reply to post by Cinaed

 

School teaches, communism EEEEEEVIL!

Schools are communist states though.

So, Lenin was the idealist, textbook communism. Stalin was an enforcer. How does that make him less of a communist? You dont know what you are talking about.

Agree.



This appears to be ending as the military and extremely conservative political forces restrict civic and cultural spaces. The Middle East upheavals and the prospect of a more liberal Tiananmen generation soon taking power has pushed policy to the extreme right in China. Political control in universities is tightening and overseas travel for scientists is being scrutinized. While government economic policy favors “indigenous innovation” and Beijing’s five-year plan focusses on innovation, the free flow of information and creative expression are being repressed.

Beneath the gloss of high-GDP growth numbers, there is now a whiff of fear in China. A bright future for the political and economic elites is not as guaranteed as once thought. Sending their children to study in the U.S. is an insurance policy that many Chinese are purchasing. These overseas students make up China’s new just-in-case generation.


Mass exodus of China’s upper class children


Because the great killer Mao is dead,but Communism is still alive.

Originally posted by Thestargateisreal
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

Just because he is communist, doesn't make him good or evil. Who knows what his problem was. It could've been a personality trait, not any belief he had.

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

Stalin took enforcement too far. He had mental problems. If I had to guess what his issue was, I'd say his ego got entirely too large, and his sense of justice was jaded from his early years in the revolution.

I'm sure you're aware of what they say about absolute power.

edit on 8-10-2011 by Thestargateisreal because: (no reason given)

You just told me that the Soviet Union was not communist and Stalin wasnt a communist. Now you are saying just because he was communist didnt make him evil? So he was evil because he was not communist? Is that what you are trying to say? That communists are not evil? That they are all idealistic like Lenin?

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THAT WASN'T COMMUNISM, THAT WAS ONE MAN THAT WAS CRAZY. Who knows why he was evil, but his political views probably had very little to do with it. He probably would've tried to gain power in any form of government.

I can't spell it out to you any better than that.

Originally posted by Thestargateisreal
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

Just because he is communist, doesn't make him good or evil. Who knows what his problem was. It could've been a personality trait, not any belief he had.

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

Stalin took enforcement too far. He had mental problems. If I had to guess what his issue was, I'd say his ego got entirely too large, and his sense of justice was jaded from his early years in the revolution. It doesn't really matter, it doesn't mean that communism is inherently evil.

I'm sure you're aware of what they say about absolute power.

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If you like Communism/Socialism ideals SOOOOOOOO much,move to China! Heck move to North Korea !

I beg you.

No true American wants Communism.

reply to post by sonnny1


I didn't say I wanted communism! Not once!

reply to post by Thestargateisreal

What is the source of this *fact*???????

Originally posted by Thestargateisreal
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

THAT WASN'T COMMUNISM, THAT WAS ONE MAN THAT WAS CRAZY. Who knows why he was evil, but his political views probably had very little to do with it.

I can't spell it out to you any better than that.

Stalin was a communist regardless of the NY Times or other people trying to cover up the evil deeds of a man who believes the ends justifies the means.

Read of this woman’s interaction with former Soviet residents:
“I was privileged to meet some former Soviet residents a few years ago. The Ukrainian couple and I being the same age, spoke of the differences of growing up in our two countries during the same era of history. We sat quietly in their living room listening to each other’s stories on how we reacted during the times of the Cold War. They spoke of how their Communist leaders always told the people that America was ready to strike their homeland at any moment. I spoke of the practice drills we had in school on what to do in case Russia launched a nuclear strike.

“Russian was the only language allowed spoken in the Soviet Union to help create equality among all the people. The Ukrainian wife spoke softly in Russian as her husband interpreted. She spoke of the Great Purge during Stalin’s rule from 1924 to 1953 when her grandparents were imprisoned and tortured to death in Siberian prison camps along with millions of other Christians. Stalin considered anyone living a lifestyle contrary to the Atheistic values of Communism to be dissidents. Socialist view of religion is that religion is a relic from the past and atheism was more successful in treating all men equally.

Mother Russia determined the careers of the graduates from high school. Mother Russia assigned the housing and which location of the country one would live. My newfound friend whispered more stories of living under Communist rule. She was assigned to become a nurse and serve Mother Russia in a medical capacity. She was thrilled with her assignment, but many did not receive such enjoyable tasks. Suicide was high in graduates who got lifelong commitments to hard labor. She spoke of dire situations in hospitals with lack of staff and medical supplies. Many of her patients relied on her faith to bring healing to their diseased bodies, when nothing medically could be done to help them. Doctors would call her into the hospital in the middle of night to pray for a patient. She did so in peril of her own safety. She was imprisoned at the age of 21 for looking like a Christian. She said that was a hard lesson learning not to look into the eyes of the authorities, but to always keep a downward glance.


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