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BUSTED Easy Jet Airlines Caught Aersol Spraying in Europe.

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posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 04:53 PM
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I did not see this posted anywhere so...........



I am not sitting on any soapbox insinuating I know what this is but I can tell you from my prospective these don't look like typical contrails I've come to recognize or been accustomed to.

I am usually a lot more expressive in my opening post but I KNOW I have to save up my strength to defend my position and thwart off the debunkers later on


What I would really like to see one day soon is for the debunkers and us doubters just agreeing that we don't know with any accuracy .....what is going on up there at all times.

But for a debunker to causally say that 100% of these blanant trails over head are nothing but vapor trails (with no proof of their own) is not only insulting but it almost appears, instigating. Gotta wonder if they're being paid.
Oh well.


Everyone in their respective corner?

{{{Ding ding ding}}} let the fighting commence.


www.youtube.com...










About the Aerotoxic Association


The association is run by a group of aircrew whose careers have ended prematurely due to Aerotoxic Syndrome, and we now want to help similarly affected aircrew and passengers.

These are our objectives:
*Help to identify the cause of mysterious ill health following a flight.
*Offer free support to aircrew and passengers
*Help refer victims to appropriate medical specialists.
*Have Aerotoxic Syndrome officially recognised.
*Expose the industry cover-up.
*Campaign for “bleed air” filters, toxic air detectors and technology to ensure clean cabin air.



What is Aerotoxic Syndrome?
Aerotoxic Syndrome is the term given to the illness caused by breathing contaminated air in jet aircraft.

It was introduced on 20th October 1999 by Dr Harry Hoffman, Professor Chris Winder and Jean Christophe Balouet, Ph.D.



Why does the cabin air get contaminated?
In order to have a comfortable environment and sufficient air pressure to breathe at the altitudes at which jet airliners fly, a supply of warm compressed air is required.

This is supplied direct from the jet engines and is known as "bleed air". It is mixed inside the aircraft with recirculated cabin air at a ratio of 50/50. Although some of the air is recirculated, all of the air originates from the jet engines.

Bleed air comes from the compressor section of the jet engine that has to be lubricated. Jet engines have "wet seals" which are designed to keep the oil and air apart. However these seals, like any mechanical component, are subject to wear.

They cannot be 100% effective, may fail and will then let a certain amount of oil into the bleed air."

If a large amount of oil mixes with the very hot compressed air, the result will be fumes or smoke entering the cabin. This is known as a “fume event”.

There are no filters in the bleed air supply to stop this happening.



www.aerotoxic.org...



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posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:05 PM
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im no expert but the picture you use in your post lokks fake...



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:07 PM
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I saw this today on David Icke's site.

Vert interesting, I'm sure there are a number of contributor's who will flame this, but where there is smoke, there are chemtrails (well in the sky at least).

I have often wondered how these low cost airlines can afford to keep going, well I think we have found the answer.



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:08 PM
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Did you even take a look at the video?

You always flame OP's without providing much substance, why is this?



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:10 PM
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Grate post, I do not understand how people can look up and think those streaks witch turn into large coulds that block the sun are natural. Weather manipulation is not Sci fi, but it is not perfected. It will be very soon.



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:11 PM
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Originally posted by Misterlondon
im no expert but the picture you use in your post lokks fake...


I would say it's more of an exaggerated artists rendition of our skies. Dees does it all the time on Rense.
I just grabbed it from one of the sites. I apologize. I don't think this area of concern needs any fake-help so I certainly didn't mean to come of fraudulent.

I'd take it out but seeing you already commented on it, people later on might think I had something to hide.

So I'll leave it in. With my sincere apologies.

Let's try to overlook that though and get down to the heart of the mater! Thanks for pointing that out though!



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:11 PM
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Originally posted by Misterlondon
im no expert but the picture you use in your post lokks fake...

Are you being sarcastic? That photo is %100 real, no doubt about it....

Its supposed to be political art, its a photo shop photo.
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posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:13 PM
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Oh no, not another cookie cutter chemtrail thread... There was one massive one not a long ago, and it's probably still active. Please do a tiny bit of research before starting your own chemtrail on ATS.

PS. Claims in OP have no merit.



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:16 PM
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Originally posted by 8ILlBILl8
Grate post, I do not understand how people can look up and think those streaks witch turn into large coulds that block the sun are natural. Weather manipulation is not Sci fi, but it is not perfected. It will be very soon.



THAT by itself is MORE troubling to me than the actual trails. I mean it's like looking at thunderstorm and saying it's sunny out.

I don't know either.

We WILL get to the bottom of it. China admits to altering their weather. Our military admits to dropping chaff so, bit by bit, we're being vindicated!


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posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:21 PM
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Originally posted by buddhasystem
Oh no, not another cookie cutter chemtrail thread... There was one massive one not a long ago, and it's probably still active. Please do a tiny bit of research before starting your own chemtrail on ATS.

PS. Claims in OP have no merit.




First off, was this particular EasyJet case covered before on here? If so, please provide link.

But if you're saying we've already discussed chemtrails and therefore no need to discuss them again then....with your logic (which seems to be lacking) we should never discuss UFOs again either because we already covered the Roswell case in 1947.

So another words: Been there. Done that.
Is that what you mean?

Oh good gawd what rock do you people reside under?



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:24 PM
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Just a quick question was the person who took the film in question on an Easy Jet flight at the time?
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posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:27 PM
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I would say it's more of an exaggerated artists rendition of our skies. Dees does it all the time on Rense.
I just grabbed it from one of the sites. I apologize. I don't think this area of concern needs any fake-help so I certainly didn't mean to come of fraudulent.

I'd take it out but seeing you already commented on it, people later on might think I had something to hide.

So I'll leave it in. With my sincere apologies.

Let's try to overlook that though and get down to the heart of the mater! Thanks for pointing that out though!


i fully understand why you included it.. its just that it leaves you open to negative comments.

i did watch the video and i dont know enough about this type of thing to give a worthwhile comment but i know the company well i have flown with them many times, stelios is a bit of a celebrity in the uk, easy jet even have their own tv show here.



i never really trusted him.. its in the eyes and we have a saying here "you cant trust someone whos eyebrows join in the middle" (but its more of an old wives tale)






posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:28 PM
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I like the 'cheap seats' angle because in between looking up I like to follow the money. By the read it looks like the aerotoxic (sp?) syndrome in current numbers is recent - possibly circa 2006? That needs investigating.



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by Cobaltic1978
I saw this today on David Icke's site.

Vert interesting, I'm sure there are a number of contributor's who will flame this, but where there is smoke, there are chemtrails (well in the sky at least).

I have often wondered how these low cost airlines can afford to keep going, well I think we have found the answer.




If that is the case, I hope to hell the pilots aren't complicate.

But below is a clip supposedly FROM a pilot himself claiming he IS aware of what they're spraying.
Please give this the 10-minutes it takes to watch this because it's important!


Secret hidden cam conversation with a CHEMTRAIL PILOT


www.youtube.com...#!
edit on 2-10-2011 by Human_Alien because: Fix YT link


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posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:35 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


This is bogus...
I was a ramp supervisor and fueler for an international airport. As a fueler, I worked on all airlines and aircraft that came into our station, as there was only one fueling company at this airport. All JP comes from the same tanks at the tank farm, none of which have any special “Chemtrail” additives. There was one tank of JP5 there for military aircraft that might divert to our station, which required the entire airports fueling operation to be stopped while it was in use, as the hydrant lines are all charged with the same gas at the same time. This means that in order to pump special gas into a certain plane, all other fueling had to cease when the hydrant system was charged with that particular fuel type, and everyone in the airport was aware of the fueling delays caused by such an event. Lets just say that changing over fuel to a different type is a BIG DEAL, and certainly not being done in secret.

Additionally, there is no “Secret” tanks for “special” fuel on aircraft, the fuel tanks in the wings and aux tanks all flow from the same tanker line, controlled from one fuel panel. There are no other secret hidden tanks in aircraft, and no special filling equipment for putting chemicals on them. Your only fluids going into the aircraft are the potable water, toilet water (regular water with a chemical additive), oil, and JP. There are only tanks, hookups, and pumping equipment for these fluids (potable water truck, Waste disposal truck, and fuel truck, oil is put in by cans like your car). Aircraft are built in a standard way, with standard hook-ups so they can be serviced at any station in the world.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by Cobaltic1978
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Did you even take a look at the video?

You always flame OP's without providing much substance, why is this?



Those are what' we call provocateurs who are just here to debunk and discredit.
They have no other goal!

So thanks for defending the thread!



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:42 PM
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You know theres a reason I asked what airline this lady was on, because it concerns Easy Jet. At the end of the video she said she asked someone from her airline about chemtrails and she gave there response. The person responded using the word Mam. Thing is, in Britain nobody will use that word, no one, not when a civilian anyway. And basicaly no one in any other European country is going to use that either. The person who spoke to her must have been American. But seeing as how it concerns a European airline, i just it a bit odd. They usualy have Europeans on them.

Unless of course the person who made the video may infact be your average American and doesnt understand the vast majority of the planet does not talk like they do and is infact lying about that little exchange at the end of the video.

WHO KNOWS THOUGH EH


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posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:42 PM
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Originally posted by defcon5
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


This is bogus...
I was a ramp supervisor and fueler for an international airport. As a fueler, I worked on all airlines and aircraft that came into our station, as there was only one fueling company at this airport. All JP comes from the same tanks at the tank farm, none of which have any special “Chemtrail” additives. There was one tank of JP5 there for military aircraft that might divert to our station, which required the entire airports fueling operation to be stopped while it was in use, as the hydrant lines are all charged with the same gas at the same time. This means that in order to pump special gas into a certain plane, all other fueling had to cease when the hydrant system was charged with that particular fuel type, and everyone in the airport was aware of the fueling delays caused by such an event. Lets just say that changing over fuel to a different type is a BIG DEAL, and certainly not being done in secret.

Additionally, there is no “Secret” tanks for “special” fuel on aircraft, the fuel tanks in the wings and aux tanks all flow from the same tanker line, controlled from one fuel panel. There are no other secret hidden tanks in aircraft, and no special filling equipment for putting chemicals on them. Your only fluids going into the aircraft are the potable water, toilet water (regular water with a chemical additive), oil, and JP. There are only tanks, hookups, and pumping equipment for these fluids (potable water truck, Waste disposal truck, and fuel truck, oil is put in by cans like your car). Aircraft are built in a standard way, with standard hook-ups so they can be serviced at any station in the world.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.




I am very surprised to read this from a mod who I thought were more unbiased than this.
But how do know nothing surreptitious takes place when you're not there? Or, since you left?

So other words. because you 'were' and once 'knew' ....therefore nothing can change? Ever?

So it's status quo and business as usual until the day you die, Is that it?

Well, there ya go!


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posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:43 PM
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another thread with zero evidence - and wild claims



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by 8ILlBILl8
Grate post, I do not understand how people can look up and think those streaks witch turn into large coulds that block the sun are natural.


They are clearly artificial - man made.

But also natural in that it is what will always happen if you have a lot of hot water vapour sprayed into cold air - there are numerous videos on YT (if that is your thing) of people throwing boiling water into the air & it freezes into ice fog almsot instantly.

Why should the huge amount of water vapour generated by a jet engine be expected to not follow the laws of physics too??


BTW this belongs in geo-engineering & chemtrails....


Weather manipulation is not Sci fi, but it is not perfected. It will be very soon.


Unlikely - IMO the "best" we'll ever manage to do with "weather manipulation", if and/or when "we" actually try it for real, is to make broad changes along the lines of global warming or cooling.

And that won't be soon - there's jsut too much research and debate to actually happen.

I'm pretty sure we've seen this video before too......
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