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Southwest Airlies: If you're gay don't fly with us!

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posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 08:29 PM
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Originally posted by Expat888
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Too many people poke noses where they've no business creating problems over things that are natural and no big deal.


When people blatantly display sexual behavior in front of dozens of others in public, then it DOES become their business. They are subjected to it perhaps along with their children. What if someone did other 'natural' things like actual sex or urinating or picking their nose? Should people still just try to completely ignore it?

When you pay for tickets, you are paying to fly- not rent out an aircraft where you can do whatever you want with no regards for the other passengers. There are PLENTY of oppurtunities for them to do whatever they wish in private. There's no reason that it's absolutely necessary for them to do this on a plane.

I wouldn't be surprised if this couple planned the whole thing out ahead of time for publicity.




posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by Charmed707
I wouldn't be surprised if this couple planned the whole thing out ahead of time for publicity.





Hailey and the band are preparing to launch a 21-city tour to promote breast cancer awareness.


I guess at least the yare promoting half a good cause, I have no idea if the band matters but cancer is important. I am sure she was not trying to get any publicity for her band either.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 08:37 PM
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I do not care about your race or sexual preferences. Nor should you worry about mine. I would not embarrass myself as an adult to groping my wife/partner/whatever in public. It belongs at home.What need does anyone need to degrade themselves in public to show their "Love" for someone else?
People should really have more respect for everyone around them, then themselves. The OP didn't provide a link
Though the OP posted off site content, I didn't see the link for it to read the article?

Anyway, I could care less of anyone's sexual orientation. Have some respect for those around you. I think that is what cranks people up more than anyone's mate.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 08:44 PM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien
Maybe the women had unrelated words with the flight attendant and out of vindictiveness she caused a scene for them? Or maybe the flight attendant was one of their ex's?
Who knows. But I definitely can see a lip-kiss causing this commotion regardless of the root-reason

And YES, people (once again......) in the year 2011 feel homosexuality is not only immoral but illegal.

Am I living on the same planet as some of you?

I know now reside in a more conservative state, Florida....but I even saw this back in New York. And trust me, I have a family member who is gay so I DO know how discriminatory and retaliatory others can get when they are unacceptable of alternative life styles. It's like having a 'race card' in the back pocket at all times.

So yes, people are very critical and judgmental so (back to this story) it wouldn't surprise me in the least if a romantic kiss (opposed to just a cheek peck) is what this was all about. We see long kisses all the time when a couple is saying goodbye to one another at the gate so.....that couldn't be the reason, right?



edit on 30-9-2011 by Human_Alien because: typo


You're just making things up now. That whole first paragraph is utter bollocks. The whole point of the discussion here is how far the women were going in their kissing because that is what generated the complaints.

Let me make it clearer for you: you have cabin crew who are going to be in NO WAY surprised to see two people of the same sex kissing. To think otherwise is just ridiculous. Then you have a planeload of passengers who are more than likely getting on with their own stuff and likely not very interested in what anyone else is doing. Let's not do these passengers a disservice by tarring them all with the 'homophobe' brush. There may a few homophobes present but to insinuate every other person present is that way inclined is nonsense. You have two women embarking on a PUBLICITY tour who start kissing. Their kissing attracts the attention of other passengers who don't want to see an overly heavy PDA (and make no mistake, the odd kiss is not going to cause the sort of fuss we're talking about here) and rightly ask for them to be told to stop. The two women take offence and cause a scene to the extent that they are bodily removed from the plane. This is then publicised, and publicity was the reason the two women were embarking on the trip in the first place. Hey presto!

For you to start speculating about unrelated arguments with cabin crew and hypothetical ex-girlfriends is just garbage and not very likely. To furthermore suggest that these two women are simply innocent victims of a witch hunt beggars belief. The likelihood is they got carried away, annoyed other passengers, were asked to calm it down and played the 'homophobia victim card'.

I suppose what sets me apart from these two plus some of the other gay people in this thread is that I know how to behave in public and I'll never be a victim just to get attention.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 09:22 PM
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Originally posted by Amadeo




You're just making things up now. That whole first paragraph is utter bollocks. The whole point of the discussion here is how far the women were going in their kissing because that is what generated the complaints.

Let me make it clearer for you: you have cabin crew who are going to be in NO WAY surprised to see two people of the same sex kissing. To think otherwise is just ridiculous. Then you have a planeload of passengers who are more than likely getting on with their own stuff and likely not very interested in what anyone else is doing. Let's not do these passengers a disservice by tarring them all with the 'homophobe' brush. There may a few homophobes present but to insinuate every other person present is that way inclined is nonsense. You have two women embarking on a PUBLICITY tour who start kissing. Their kissing attracts the attention of other passengers who don't want to see an overly heavy PDA (and make no mistake, the odd kiss is not going to cause the sort of fuss we're talking about here) and rightly ask for them to be told to stop. The two women take offence and cause a scene to the extent that they are bodily removed from the plane. This is then publicised, and publicity was the reason the two women were embarking on the trip in the first place. Hey presto!

For you to start speculating about unrelated arguments with cabin crew and hypothetical ex-girlfriends is just garbage and not very likely. To furthermore suggest that these two women are simply innocent victims of a witch hunt beggars belief. The likelihood is they got carried away, annoyed other passengers, were asked to calm it down and played the 'homophobia victim card'.

I suppose what sets me apart from these two plus some of the other gay people in this thread is that I know how to behave in public and I'll never be a victim just to get attention.




First off, I stopped doing 'likelihoods' back on Sept 11, 2001 so that doesn't work for me anymore.

Now how can something theoretical be bollocks? I didn't say it happened. I said for all we know that might have happened BIG difference!

So please, don't come after me so aggressively because no one knows what happened, right? So how can my hypothesis be wrong? They are proposals, not facts! So let's straighten that out first.

Where are the passenger's testimony? How do we even know other passengers were bothered? Because the attendant said so? Really? Hearsay doesn't cut it either.


Am I to understand that your position is that no one ever does anything out of spite.....ever? Especially causing trouble to an alternative lifestyle couple? Really?


You're putting the onus if not the blame on these women. Like they HAD to have done SOMETHING more than what they're saying.....


I on the other hand am exploring the possibility that it MIGHT'VE been the flight attendant whose was the provocateur and either made this up and/or exaggerated the issue to get these women or woman in trouble.

Again, why is my scenario so off the wall? Because I am thinking outside the box and against the majority?
There is very little to go on so......give me a break!



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 09:37 PM
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Being a lesbian.... Back when I was in my early 20's I flew with some friends of mine; no we didn't use Southwest LOL. One of the ladies I was with decided she wanted to put on a show so she sat on my lap and started kissing me.

We were not thrown off the plane; no one said a damn thing! Looking back I admit it was very inmature but I admit... it was exciting! LOL



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 09:40 PM
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Originally posted by DJDigitalGem
My bad here's a link to the story.....

www.shewired.com...
edit on 30-9-2011 by DJDigitalGem because: (no reason given)




Thank you for that link.

I for one believe the women. There is NOTHING in that article that provides proof that they were inappropriate.

It's a she-said/she-said situation and I so happen to believe this couple.


"We want to make it clear we were not making out or creating any kind of spectacle of ourselves, it was one modest kiss," according to Hailey’s written statement. "We are responsible adult women who walk through the world with dignity. We were simply being affectionate like any normal couple."



Some people can be catty, jealous, envious and spiteful and I think one of those traits might've existed here with that flight attendant.


I would be interested in hearing what exactly this flight attendant saw and what supposedly was said by other passengers.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien
Some people can be catty, jealous, envious and spiteful and I think one of those traits might've existed here with that flight attendant.


I would be interested in hearing what exactly this flight attendant saw and what supposedly was said by other passengers.





Yeah I am sure it was a plain full of jealous people that wished they were kissing one of the lesbians and all the jealously just boiled over. That just makes way too much sense.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 09:52 PM
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Actress Leisha Hailey and her girlfriend, musician Camila Grey, released a statement today denying that there was anything excessive about their in-flight kiss and announcing they will file a complaint with Southwest Airlines after being escorted off a flight Monday.

“We have always promoted tolerance, openness and equality both as a band and as individuals,” the statement reads, referring to the couple’s band Uh Huh Her. “We want to make it clear we were not making out or creating any kind of spectacle of ourselves, it was one, modest kiss. We are responsible adult women who walk through the world with dignity. We were simply being affectionate like any normal couple.”


abcnews.go.com...



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 09:56 PM
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gay or not to me is not the issue. It is...how much they were getting into it... I mean, was it just a peck on the cheek/lips or where they full on making out?


Gay or straight I don't want to watch a tongue fest on my flight.

The email doesn't really say if they were getting into it or not.. I am guessing that if it was just a quick peck, Most would not have even seen. Maybe they were getting a bit too much into it and thus were not being family friendly?


Now, before anyone accuses me of being against gay people or something, please note that my stance has been as an avid gay rights supporter on this site and in real life.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 09:59 PM
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Originally posted by Sanndy

Originally posted by Human_Alien
Some people can be catty, jealous, envious and spiteful and I think one of those traits might've existed here with that flight attendant.


I would be interested in hearing what exactly this flight attendant saw and what supposedly was said by other passengers.





Yeah I am sure it was a plain full of jealous people that wished they were kissing one of the lesbians and all the jealously just boiled over. That just makes way too much sense.



Oh please!

Enjoy your mob mentality.

This story reeks of wrongness from Southwest.

Nowhere is there a passenger statement or even the attendants statement.

I hope this DOES go to court. I would be interested in hearing Southwests' defense!



I highly doubt two semi well known people would bring negative attention to themselves and carry on like two animals in heat, in public. Highly unlikely.
Nor do I think they are money hungry bimbos and concocted a plan to sue an airline

It is of my opinion more probable that Southwest hired a straight-laced homophobic attendant who didn't like what she was seeing and now, maybe regretting what has happened.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 10:05 PM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien
I highly doubt two semi well known people would bring negative attention to themselves and carry on like two animals in heat, in public. Highly unlikely.




That really says it all right there. Yeah, no one that is barely famous would do something stupid to ruin that barely fame would they Lyndsay Lohan, Charlie Sheen, Brittany Spears, I can do this all day.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 10:05 PM
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See? It wasn't the 'kissing'!! You people are such lemmings!

I KNEW it wasn't what most of you were accusing these women of.


Southwest later insisted the problem was the abusive language, not the kiss. "The conversation escalated to a level that was better resolved on the ground, as opposed to in flight," it said.





After days of incensed reaction from Hailey, her friends and the lesbian and gay community, however, Southwest backtracked, saying it was offering a full refund for the flight and had "reached out to extend goodwill" – a form of words that fell just short of an outright apology.




Enough said. I hope some learned a lesson and stop following the leader.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 10:07 PM
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Originally posted by Sanndy

Originally posted by Human_Alien
I highly doubt two semi well known people would bring negative attention to themselves and carry on like two animals in heat, in public. Highly unlikely.




That really says it all right there. Yeah, no one that is barely famous would do something stupid to ruin that barely fame would they Lyndsay Lohan, Charlie Sheen, Brittany Spears, I can do this all day.



Publicly. Not personally.


I'm out of here.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 10:18 PM
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This article in the OP and a majority of this thread is political correctness at it's best...or worst depending on how you view it.

From a vague little story you jump to conclusions and call the airline in question homophobic. You are probably the same people that have the nerve to call everyone else "sheeple"

Hypocrisy at it's finest.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 11:10 PM
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I hope this DOES go to court. I would be interested in hearing Southwests' defense!

Southwest defense will be simply enough, it will go something along these lines:

Sorry but if you don't like the rules then don't fly Southwest.

I would be willing to bet they caught the next (on Southwest) and they decided to forgo the PDAs this time...



posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 12:30 AM
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Originally posted by DJDigitalGem
Being a lesbian.... Back when I was in my early 20's I flew with some friends of mine; no we didn't use Southwest LOL. One of the ladies I was with decided she wanted to put on a show so she sat on my lap and started kissing me.

We were not thrown off the plane; no one said a damn thing! Looking back I admit it was very inmature but I admit... it was exciting! LOL


evidence that lesbians conspire to display over the top sexual behavior on airplanes....
because it's exciting.
you should have been kicked off.

i'm in the same boat as all the other rational people in this thread.
listen, this chick is on some ###SNIP### cable show. no press is bad press.....eh.
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edit on Sat Oct 1 2011 by DontTreadOnMe because: Mod Note: Do Not Evade the Automatic Censors – Please Review This Link.



posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 12:46 AM
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Whether you want to believe or agree or not, it had nothing to do with their lesbianism and everything to do with their public displays of affection. I've seen straight people escorted off of a connecting flight before for the same thing....any chance you get to bitch about something though if that's what makes you feel better.



posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 01:14 AM
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Just been watching "Airline" from 2004 featuring Southwest .Two of the employees on the series are openly gay.
Also noted that it appears the U.S has an overabundance of food



posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 01:18 AM
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They were escorted off for public displays of affection

Not for being gay.

Fail story.


 
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