Asteroid impact September 29th 2004

Well I had a dream last Saturday night involving certain Female pop stars and me pitching for the Yankees, not one bit of it came true (unfortunatley for me).

Be honest, if we all worried about every theory, end of the world or government, we'd be in the asylum by now. If the sky gets darker on the 28th, and I start to hear a rumble, then be assured i will go to the nearest school and duck under a desk, as the whole world knows its the safest place to be, or does it only work for nuclear strikes ?

Don't be scared, cause I'm not. Some say Jesus will be making his arrival shortly after this date, to those who are chosen to survive.....

Personally, I wouldn't be in such a rush to see him... Have you read his book? His return is basically the coming of Armageddon, and the BEST you can hope for, is after the torture which comes before his arrival, you get to be part of the "rapture". Of course, unless you're one of the 144,000 virgin males, descended from the 12 tribes of Isreal, you're not going to have a ticket, hehe.....

Jesus will be making his arrival eh? I thought there was a rumour he was dead, some story about being nailed to a cross 2000 years ago or something like that.

What's that you say .... re-incarnated? again?

OK I'm being facetious, but as it's my birthday in October does the Asterioid impact on Sept 29 mean I should have my party a few days earlier than planned?

I notice both Deep impact and Armageddon are both on Tv in the UK this weekend - You dont think theres a deeper meaning to this do you ?

Or is it just another set of repeats ?

at least i will be able to get to go to my senses fail concert before then! yay! that means more booze for everyone!

on Sept 29 nothing will happen and I wont let it for I want to se GWB losse and be a ONE TERMER like is Looser dad !!!!

Ill up the ante to 20 bucks ....any one?

skeptics, you gotta love em' They'll always be around, just like evil rabbits, mwah ha ha ha ha ha AHEM.....

we have to prepare for the coming of the lord

Originally posted by IMMORTAL
Toutatis on Sept. 29 will be too close for comfort. This is not like it's an Aussie Bloke thing where there was no real evidence. The evidence here points to an object that is very erratic, meaning it can deviate slightly from its predicted course. I've read an article where, between the lines, I got the impression that the scientists were saying there is a chance that this could impact Earth. Of course, they did not admit that little statement because of the potential reaction around the world.

Because the Illuminati are very fond with number games, such as 9/11, there is a prediction that another terrorist attack will occur on Sept. 27, which is approximately 2 days before Toutatis nears Earth. Maybe this predicted terror attack will be used to take people's attention away from the danger that Toutatis presents.

We will never know for sure right now if Toutatis will strike or not. But, Toutatis is a real danger because of the proximity, its erratic nature, and the devastation it can cause if it impacts Earth. We do know that it is going to be very close and visible with Binoculars.

Here are some links:

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Illuminati Terror Attack

Dont worry its coming nowhere near us!

On Sept 29th it will come less than 963,000 miles close

This is from NASA aswell i think they know what they are talking about.




survivalcenter.com...

Originally posted by markjaxson
Dont worry its coming nowhere near us!

On Sept 29th it will come less than 963,000 miles close

This is from NASA aswell i think they know what they are talking about.

survivalcenter.com...

Errrrr have you looked at NASAs record over the past few years, just hope someone carried the remainder this time, unlike the mars probe where they forgot to translate miles into kilometres

[edit on 11-9-2004 by philstix]

According to NASA on September 29, 2004 a large and potentially hazardous asteroid called Toutatis 4179 will come very close to planet Earth.

Facts from NASA:

�Toutatis is about 3 miles long, 1.5 miles wide
�Discovered in 1989, it nears earth every 3.98 years
�It has a very strange shape, rotation and orbit
�On Sept 29th it will come less than 963,000 miles close
�963,000 miles is considered a very near miss
�It orbits into the main asteroid belt between Mars & Jupiter
�Earth, Mars & Jupiter's gravity affects its orbital path
�It will slow down crossing near Earth at about 24,000 m.p.h.
�It will be very bright, visible even with binoculars
�Officially, NASA gives a zero chance of impact
�A collision would kill most all life forms on Earth

Toutatis Close Approaches (EMD = Earth-Moon distances)

Date 1992 Dec 8 1996 Nov 29 2000 Oct 31 2004 Sep 29
hh:mm 05:37 22:54 04:31 13:37

Dist AU 0.0241484197 0.0354303011 0.0738653055 0.0103592320

km 3,612,552 5,300,298 11,050,092 1,549,719
miles 2,244,774 3,293,452 6,866,209 962,951
EMD 9.4 13.8 28.7 4.0

RA 13 17 41.8 13 35 28.3 14 32 12.3 14 31 33.2
Dec -23 39 54.6 -21 43 27.8 -21 07 23.3 -59 40 29.9
Constell'n Hydra Virgo Libra Centaurus

The Sep. 29, 2004, approach is the closest in this century of any known asteroid at least as large as Toutatis (or more precisely, of any known asteroid with an absolute magnitude as small as H = 15.30). Click here for close-approach tables.

echo.jpl.nasa.gov...

There ya go from NASA themselves!

Ephemeris Generator

[edit on 12-9-2004 by evecasino]

2 weeks left from today, we wait and see....

Originally posted by armageddonbeliever
2 weeks left from today, we wait and see....

Every 3.98 years it nears earth, it won't hit us till 2012

Originally posted by kix
SOME PEOPLE ARE SO DESPERATE TO GET ATTENTION OR POINTS IN ATS THAT THEYLL post ANYTHING

We get POINTS????????

Originally posted by ImAlreadyPsycho
Alright. This is getting old. Christians, please make a mental note RIGHT NOW to read your bibles again.

It is written

"I will come like a thief in the night" and "none shall know when it will happen, it cannot be predicted"

Therefore, if it is predicted, it will not happen because the prediction would prove that the Christian God is falible. Why is it that so many say Jesus is allowing the apocolypse and this is when it will happen? By saying this, you are pushing the date back. I have heard many a pastor or priest say it will be within the next 50 to 100 years.

Guess what. Now that it is predicted, it CAN'T happen in the next hundred years, or your god is fake.

So any "true, God fear, real Christian" would NEVER try to predict armageddon.

Notice, however, that Jesus made many a remark about what signs would signal the end times. Don't be so hasty as to judge others based on what they say; they might be right. They could simply be repeating what he said.

As for that "I come as a thief in the night" quote, that was mentioned to show that no man knows the EXACT manner or time of Christ's return. But, if you read the rest of the 2 Peter Chapter 3 verse, you'd also see a subtle hint as to the nature of the end.

"10: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up."

I find that to be a VERY revealing quote; one that suggests the one thing we happen to be talking about, a near earth asteroid.

Oh, and that remark about God being fake just because some nut claims that God's talking to him over the plate in his head is kinda offensive. I get you're point that you're tired of people constantly doomsaying; so am I. However, as a Christian myself, I find it more entertaining to at least accept the possibility that it COULD happen, and just wait and see if it does. People have apparently grown to believe that prophets are a thing of the past, when in fact, they are probably walkiing amongst us as we speak. We just haven't opened our minds enough to listen.

I think what I'm trying to say is that before we're so hasty to condemn a person for simply voicing a possibility, we need to give them the benefit of the doubt. As for this discussion's topic, I think it's a VERY distinct possibility that this asteroid COULD hit earth, although I'm not entirely convinced that it will destroy everything on the planet, as the supposed 6 mile wide one that supposedly destroyed the dinosaurs didn't destroy the planet, and it's obvious that some animals survived the carnage, i.e. Alligators, Crocodiles, turtles, etc...

Lastly, I respect what you've said, but I have to disagree with you're approach. You come across as a person who's heard too many doomsayers talk. Might I suggest something? Try thinking for yourself. Look at the evidence, and decide for urself, will it hit or no?

I leave you to decide....and in case this whole planet is gone in two weeks, farewell.

Originally posted by TheBorg
"10: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up."

I find that to be a VERY revealing quote; one that suggests the one thing we happen to be talking about, a near earth asteroid.


As for this discussion's topic, I think it's a VERY distinct possibility that this asteroid COULD hit earth, although I'm not entirely convinced that it will destroy everything on the planet, as the supposed 6 mile wide one that supposedly destroyed the dinosaurs didn't destroy the planet,...

It will happen, it's just matter of time.
It could be twenty years from now, two hunred, two thousand, two million years but it will happen.

These small ones are well able to destroy over 90% of species but destroying earth would require much more.
But even with these small ones you wouldn't have to worry anything beyond impact.

This is rough partial translation of article (describing Chixculub) from member magazine of Finnish astronomical association.
Asteroid cuts huge hole through atmosphere and moment later strikes to ocean and bedrock under it. Hundred thousands cubic kilometers of rock vaporises, melts or is blown away instantly. Part of of matter from asteroid and impact site escapes to space before hole in atmosphere closes.
Shockwave causes extremely powerfull earthquakes all around the world and in atmosphere it "flattens" everything to distance of thousand kilometers. Explosion also rises huge tsunamis with height about one kilometer.
Vaporised material creates huge fireball which rises/spreads to atmosphere and fireball's heat radiation burns everything within line of sight. Part of fireball's material rises above atmosphere and rains down in following days all over the world in form of small meteorites. This fiery meteorite shower heats up atmosphere causing ignition of everything which is compustible. Heat also vaporizes one meter layer of water from all oceans and boils couple meters more. Nitrogen and oxygen combines in heated atmosphere causing world wide acid rains.
Ash from world wide fires and dust from impact prevents sun light and heat from getting to surface causing dark and cold ice age. After dust settles carbon oxides produced by fires, methane and water vaporized in impact start extreme greenhouse effect wich in turn raises temperature much higher than it was before impact.

This is one other description I like:

Imagine: NASA scientists announce they have detected a 10-mile-wide asteroid on a collision course with the Earth. They calculate it will hit Southeast Asia in two weeks. There is no chance of Bruce Willis being sent on a beefed-up space shuttle to blow up the asteroid. Earthlings will have to ride out the impact.
The world economy grinds to a halt as people take to the hills. Anarchy sets in, civilization breaks down. Accusations fly over the lack of warning -- where was Spaceguard, the proposed international search effort for large asteroids?

People in Brazil feel less vulnerable than most of the world's population. They are on the opposite side of the Earth from the predicted impact point. But one hour after the impact Brazilians notice some brilliant meteors. Then more meteors. Soon the sky gets brighter and hotter from the overwhelming number of meteors. Within a few minutes trees ignite from the fierce radiant heat. Millions of fragments of rock, ejected into space by the blast, are making a fiery return all over the planet.

Only people hiding underground survive the deadly fireworks display. Within three hours, however, massive shock waves from the impact travel through the Earth's crust and converge on Brazil at the same time. The ground shakes so violently that the ground fractures and molten rock spews from deep underground. Maybe Brazil wasn't the best place to be after all.

The survivors of the firestorms, tsunami and massive earthquakes emerge to a devastated landscape. Within a few days the Sun vanishes behind a dark thick cloud -- a combination of soot from the firestorms, dust thrown up by the impact and a toxic smog from chemical reactions. Photosynthesis in plants and algae ceases and temperatures plummet. A long, sunless Arctic winter seems mild compared to the new conditions on most of the planet.

After a year or so the dust settles and sunlight begins to filter through the clouds. The Earth's surface starts warming up. But the elevated carbon dioxide levels created by the fires (and, by chance, vaporization of huge quantities of limestone at the impact site) results in a runway greenhouse effect. Those creatures that managed to survive the deep freeze now have to cope with being cooked.

www.space.com...
It only forgets acid rains caused by combining of nitrogen and oxygen in heated up atmosphere.


Massive impacts might be also well capable of inflicting extremely large scale volcanic acticity:

The debate continues on whether the Chicxulub impact caused the mass extinction at the end of the Cretaceous Period or whether it was one of a sequence of disasters. The Deccan Traps of India are the remnants of a massive upwelling of molten rock from deep within the Earth 65 million years ago. The toxic fumes and dust from the eruption have been put forward as a possible alternative cause of climate change that led to the extinction of the dinosaurs.

A possible link between impacts and volcanism became evident in 1974 when the Mariner 10 spacecraft flew past the innermost planet Mercury. The planet was found to be covered with impact craters like the moon. One giant impact crater on Mercury was particularly interesting. Directly opposite the impact point, on the other side of the planet (called the "antipodal point") was a region of highly disrupted terrain with no evidence of an impact. The shock waves from the impact on one side of Mercury had traveled around the surface and met simultaneously at the antipodal point to create the chaotic features. Similar features have since been detected on several moons of the giant planets.

Astronomer Duncan Steel has suggested that the same occurred with the Chicxulub impact and that the shock waves caused the Deccan Traps. Taking into account millions of years of continental drift, this region would have been at the antipodal point to Mexico at the time of the impact. Although the eruption may have contributed to the suffering, it now seems more likely that the Deccan Traps were just a consequence of the catastrophic initial event, the Chicxulub impact.

www.space.com...
This one shows nicely that there's some sort of highland at opposite side of Mars than Hellas impact basin:
www.solarviews.com...


So I bet there's enough consequenses to satisfy any doomsday prophet's dreams.

Well Lets Hope not My daughter is on the Docket to be born on the 28th I would hope An asteroid would not decide to destroy her Planet the day after her birth

I predict there will be lots of screaming and hysteria over Touatis in the next two weeks.

I predict that it will pass us, as the astronomers have said, still safely in its usual orbit, with no Jesii or other phenomina suddenly changing the laws of physics and sending it spinning into us.

I predict that within 2 months of its having done so, the same pack will find Yet Another Asteroid to yell "DOOMSDAY!!!" about.

Anyone want to take the bet?

Originally posted by jtma508
No kidding... besides, there was an asteroid (2004 FU162) that skimmed a mere 6,500 meters above earth on March 31st. They didn't even know about it until after the fact.

www.rense.com...

Sept 29th will be like Aug 12th, 19th, 22nd... did I miss any??
- G

Ummm 6500 meters...and no one noticied??????
Mera Peak in Nepal is 6450 meters...surely something only 50 meters higher would have been noticied....at least the big SWOOOSSSSHHHHH it made as it went by.....
6500 meters is only 21325.46 feet...... or were you being funny?




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