Could Humanity Withstand An Invasion Of Earth By Evil Aliens From Outer Space?

reply to post by blocula


well okay but why do say that ?

it is true that there are many flavors of entities here, a large percentage of them are us (yes us)
some of them are hybrids with or without bodies(weird but true)" the originals"/Olympians whatever are no longer here,but the control infrastructure that they instituted is still here it is that that we are fighting .

Originally posted by MrsBlonde
reply to post by blocula

 

well okay but why do say that ?

it is true that there are many flavors of entities here, a large percentage of them are us (yes us)
some of them are hybrids with or without bodies(weird but true)" the originals"/Olympians whatever are no longer here,but the control infrastructure that they instituted is still here it is that that we are fighting .

Um.. Is this something you believe completely. I would like a bit of evidence to support
your claims.
There is no prrof of "Entities" from space or anywhere else living among us, and certainly no proof of
"Entities" living with just a brain and nobody.
Hope you will expand on your nugget of wisdom.

Any space faring race that trys to conquer Earths human race, could possibly be met with stiff resistance from other space faring races, that depend on a "peaceful" Earth; who use the planet Earth as an R&R stop in this quadrant of the Milky Way galaxy.

Earthling's could be faced with an interstellar war, occuring inside our atmosphere, on our shores and low Earth orbits.

It could be a different outcome, if all the other-worlder's were all united for total Earth domination; such as the Nordic's, Grey's and the Reptilians.

Originally posted by Gazrok
The good news though, is that if conquest was the agenda, I'm sure we would have been subjugated by now, so luckily, that doesn't seem to be the plan, assuming we are indeed being visited.

Gaul wasn't subjugated for a long time. Until it was.

reply to post by mbkennel


Given that the main sightings have been going on for over 50 years, they must really be patient!

(and Gaul was subjugated by the Romans around 50 something BC...when were they so free for so long, BC times? That's mostly because we don't always have the best records of who was fighting who then).

The thing is, a race capable of interstellar travel wouldn't NEED to conquer anyone.

On Earth, we war for one reason, and one reason only....control of resources. No matter what else is claimed, that's always what it boils down to.

Interstellar travelers could simply get anything they needed from uninhabited worlds and asteroids. They'd never NEED to conquer anyone. They have nearly INFINITE resources, and thus, no motivation for conquest.

Granted, all we have to go on is US as a benchmark, and they may think completely differently, but I really feel that interstellar beings would really have no reason for conquest.

reply to post by Gazrok


My hope is that - God forbid - If our Earth was ever involved in a nuclear war between a least two countries - That the other-worlder's hopefully would disable each other's nuclear weapon stockpile's; because the other-worlder's might not want to spend their R&R on a radioactive planet!!!

If they were sufficiently advanced enough I would say no. All they would need to do is simply drop a large enough rock on the planet and pretty much we're all dead. Then give the planet 5 -10 years for the dust clouds to settle and the nuclear winter to end. Then they could just land and take over. And the planet would be mostly sterilized except for a few fishes and weeds. And the cockroaches of course.

reply to post by ntech



I would rule out the asteroid invasion theory, if the other-worlder's plan is to occupy Earth after the extinction of the human race.

How many asteroid's would be used to make the Earths human race extinct?

If asteroid impacts were to be used as weapon's - Could be that the impacts could have major unforeseen consequences, like maybe possibly making Earth uninhabitable for millions of years.

Some mammals and birds survived the 65 million year impact, because even though some dinosaurs survived to turn into bird's; and the early mammals survived because they had a coat of fur, while we humans have clothes.

In reality we do not have to withstand an invasion. They never will invade. The should have already by now. They fear us, not all of us. They dont' fear the weak ones which are the ones who keep getting contacted abducted or have business with them. Once the weak ones are greater in number than the stong ones we will fold like a lawn chair and be enslaved by them.

Originally posted by rigel4

Originally posted by MrsBlonde
reply to post by blocula

 

well okay but why do say that ?

it is true that there are many flavors of entities here, a large percentage of them are us (yes us)
some of them are hybrids with or without bodies(weird but true)" the originals"/Olympians whatever are no longer here,but the control infrastructure that they instituted is still here it is that that we are fighting .

Um.. Is this something you believe completely. I would like a bit of evidence to support
your claims.
There is no prrof of "Entities" from space or anywhere else living among us, and certainly no proof of
"Entities" living with just a brain and nobody.
Hope you will expand on your nugget of wisdom.

the books of Enoch describe what became of the Nephilim (hybrid children of some off world or interdimensional beings) a detailed description of what exactly this interbreeding resulted in
and that a catatrophic flood ravaged the 'civilization of the watchers and their offspring. The mixed nature of immortal beings and fleshly humans resulted in creatures whose body can be killed but never the less they do not die(it is weird state of existence peculiar to them) they remain among us hungry with no way to eat ,horny with no way to satisfy their lust,thirsty with no way to drink, it says they hate women because they come from them

the original watcher fathers /original gods have been removed from among us but their insatiable offspring remain, dead yet not dead as the book explains

fast forward to today and many scholars agree that there is a supernatural impetus to some of the wars and social crisis we are embroiled in today. They have independently come to the conclusion that we are in the middle of an inter-dimensional war,just like the scriptures say, go figure

ATS archives have a lot of this info if you care to search through the videos and what not

start with a series called THE ARRIVALS and go from there.Truth is stranger than fiction,there is reason why the truth is called ugly. The truth sets you free though, so it's worth looking at ,hideous as it is

reply to post by Gazrok


You have to count acceleration as well. The ship will not get to Neptune in four hours.

I have posted earlier on this thread the principle of 'speed vs maneueverability'. A ship travels in straight line when approaching VOL or faster. It cannot turn.

The ship has to slow down to regain maneueverability.

The 5x speed is good only outside solar system. Ship will be much much slower (probably mach 20-50 range) when near planets.

The ship will most likely (again not a certainty) have cloaking technology. So it may be difficult to observe the ship in visible light spectrum. However ship may still be visible in infra-red, so depends on earth technology.

SHIELD as shown in 'Independence Day' movie is science fiction. The ship is likely to avoid getting hit by maneuver and cloaking, or by firing particle beam at incoming object. (There is no scientific explanation for SHIELD).

So maybe you can incorporate the above in your war scenario.

I gotta admit ,is my dream to be able to punch an invading alien in the head and say "Welcome to Earth"

75 years for a human on earth, is the average life expectancy. but to an alien, 75 years might only be 1/10th of their life span. they might live on average 500 earth years. so if we say that "they should have invaded by now" we are looking at an invasion plan from a human perspective,an earthly time line,not from an alien point of view...

i don't think any alien "force sheild" ,no matter how advanced, would be able to withstand the savage power of a hydrogen bomb...unless...their space machines and weaponry were made of a different atomic structure, atoms alinged differently. in other words...from another dimension...then they very well may be impenetrable. like us throwing firecrackers at a tank...

Hell no, unless we have Torchwood, UNIT, the Fringe team or something we are #ed and you know it. There is no way, our government will leave us out here to fend for ourselves while they chill underground in Denver with some wine.

reply to post by Heartisblack


The Government or parts of it may be underground but the military would not be. While the military might combined may not be a force to be reckoned with, the military and the people might be. When threatened, we can be a pretty resourceful and dangerous species. It usually takes a crisis for us to band together and when we do, I think it shows the true nature of humanity. Most of us would fight for our family, friends and even neighbors. Many of us would die for our own. This makes us extremely dangerous and unpredictable, i don't care what sort of technology you throw at us. If push came to shove and there was only pockets of us left, we would still keep chipping away because those of us who haven't already given up our rights, our freedom and our faith....never will.

Score 1 for the underdog.

Originally posted by blocula
75 years for a human on earth, is the average life expectancy. but to an alien, 75 years might only be 1/10th of their life span. they might live on average 500 earth years. so if we say that "they should have invaded by now" we are looking at an invasion plan from a human perspective,an earthly time line,not from an alien point of view...

i don't think any alien "force sheild" ,no matter how advanced, would be able to withstand the savage power of a hydrogen bomb...unless...their space machines and weaponry were made of a different atomic structure, atoms alinged differently. in other words...from another dimension...then they very well may be impenetrable. like us throwing firecrackers at a tank...

The problem is we are having a discussion here, so we have to consider possibilities which have some SCIENTIFIC basis.

Animals on earth do not live 500 years. As we have no direct evidence about ETs, you can say 500 years, but I would say that no animal on earth survives that long. So it is out of the equation.

Your second argument of 'dimension' is fanciful. What do you mean by 'dimension'. Can you explain scientifically?

Originally posted by vedatruth

Originally posted by blocula
75 years for a human on earth, is the average life expectancy. but to an alien, 75 years might only be 1/10th of their life span. they might live on average 500 earth years. so if we say that "they should have invaded by now" we are looking at an invasion plan from a human perspective,an earthly time line,not from an alien point of view...

i don't think any alien "force sheild" ,no matter how advanced, would be able to withstand the savage power of a hydrogen bomb...unless...their space machines and weaponry were made of a different atomic structure, atoms alinged differently. in other words...from another dimension...then they very well may be impenetrable. like us throwing firecrackers at a tank...

The problem is we are having a discussion here, so we have to consider possibilities which have some SCIENTIFIC basis.

Animals on earth do not live 500 years. As we have no direct evidence about ETs, you can say 500 years, but I would say that no animal on earth survives that long. So it is out of the equation.

Your second argument of 'dimension' is fanciful. What do you mean by 'dimension'. Can you explain scientifically?

you are wrong no one knows how long a shark lives, tortoises are known to live in excess of two hundred years and there is in new Zealand and animal called a Tuatara that lives untold hundreds of years ,nobody knows how long

reply to post by MrsBlonde


Can we limit ourselves to animals that produce live baby - rather than eggs.

Ok tortoise can live more than human - but 500 years??

I shall check about the australian animal.

wherever someone was when the invasion happened is most likely where you would be making your final stand. wether it be at home, at work or driving down the highway. the chaos and "traffic jams" that would soon develop would be impenetrable. unless you were on a motorcycle, bicycle or able to walk or run somewhere close by for a better defense...

eventually, every city and town might have scout ships, drones and piloted, flying overhead and making straffing runs and or landing alien troops...if you were home when the invasion started. most likely that's where you would stay and wait till either human help arrived. or evil aliens eventually reached you...

by another dimension i mean the aliens might be time travelers. or they may exist in another reality beyond our five senses, within another wavelength of the electromagnetic spectrum. their atomic structure may exist at another vibrational rate or frequency than our own. we see and live in a world of photons...light...they may live in a world of gamma rays,or x-rays...

reply to post by blocula


Are you discussing, or telling story of a movie????

If you are discussing, you have to account for contra viewpoint as well.

Originally posted by blocula
wherever someone was when the invasion happened is most likely where you would be making your final stand. wether it be at home, at work or driving down the highway. the chaos and "traffic jams" that would soon develop would be impenetrable. unless you were on a motorcycle, bicycle or able to walk or run somewhere close by for a better defense...

eventually, every city and town might have scout ships, drones and piloted, flying overhead and making straffing runs and or landing alien troops...if you were home when the invasion started. most likely that's where you would stay and wait till either human help arrived. or evil aliens eventually reached you...

by another dimension i mean the aliens might be time travelers. or they may exist in another reality beyond our five senses, within another wavelength of the electromagnetic spectrum. their atomic structure may exist at another vibrational rate or frequency than our own. we see and live in a world of photons...light...they may live in a world of gamma rays,or x-rays...

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our emotional reactions to a real invasion by aliens with evil intentions, would be just as critical as our technological defenses...
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