The Feast of Trumpets approaches, shall Christ return?

Revelation 12

1And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
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That's the constellation virgo. When the sun is in virgo's mid section, she is clothed with it. It also is a metaphor for the virgin mary being pregnant with the son. the crown of twelve stars is 2 fold: it's the constellations of the ecliptic AND the 12 tribes of israel, so that you know this is referring to a royal of hebrew blood being born to a virgin, a clear indicator it's referring to yeshua. it's a calendar (among other things) for us to understand the time and the seasons.

3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

4And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
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That's the constellation "draco" the dragon. Its tail marks a third of the precessional equinox. in this example, it's depicting the constellation having moved in the sky via precession, in such a way, the scoop of it's tail encompasses one third of the stars of precession in the constellation.

It's also a metaphor for earthly governments and etc. this is a calendar based on the precession of the equinoxes.

this guy explains it better than i can. the specific info starts at 3:00minutes into the video.

Originally posted by GeorgiaGirl
reply to post by shinzaun

 

Instead of feeling like you "HAVE TO" worship at the feet of God, you feel like you WANT TO. I've felt that way listening to powerful worship music at church. It's not about ME, it's about amazing awe for the Creator.

I can't wait to be in His presence!

I feel the same way. When i was a kid i hated going to church and i definately didn't want to worship, but 14 years wondering around in darkness alone changed that. You spend 14 years fighting Satan under your own power while he is slowly chipping away at you with his death of 1000 cuts, and then the Lord calls you back. It's like being thrown in the "hole" of a prison in total darkness for 14 years and finally a door opens and you are let out into the light.

Now as a grown man in my 30's, I love going to church to worship the Lord and it is my favorite part of the service. When i was a child, i thought as a child did and did childish things. When i became a man i put away those childish things. If i could fall down at the Lord's feet i would never get up because i do not ever want to. People will never understand this until they give themselves over to his will and stop living selfishly for themselves.

reply to post by kwell
I have heard more and more people saying that they've "heard" the same thing or felt that nudging in their spirit that time was so short. I too will be surprised if it's not this year. I personally keep waiting for one big event to kick it off (some event that we can point to before we're gone and say, this is it for sure)... but I know that it may just be more gradual than that at first, all the pawns in the chess game being slowly moved into place.

Originally posted by OldCorp

Originally posted by Redux
reply to post by OldCorp

 

Thank you, OC, for this post. It is nice to hear someone be honest about their struggles in their walk. I would think most (or at least some) Christians at one point or another struggled, but you rarely hear about it. Like admitting it is somehow shameful or something.

I know, right? As much as I love the Lord, sometimes there are "Christians" that turn my stomach with their gossiping and "Holier-than-thou" attitudes. We are ALL sinners who have fallen short of the glory of God, and many professing "Christians" seem to forget that.

I think that some (not all) people who are saved when they are young maybe never fully realize just how much of a sinner they are and they end up speaking as though they are above others. What's that scripture... I tell you, her many sins have been forgiven; that's why she loved much. But the one who is forgiven little, loves little.

... it's all good though, we all have our faults along the way.... united as the invisible church we are much stronger and can do more than we as individuals can.

My husband always loved David Wilkerson. I loved to hear him speak, but didn't get to all that often.

Sorry to the OP for going off topic

Well I'm not what I'd call a religious man, I am supposed to be a christian but as I've got older I like to think that no religion is right, just do good things, for the right reason and you will be rewarded in the end...(well... end of this chapter). Anyway back to the point, despite this I still sometimes wonder if my experience was as some have stated "him":

Here's part of my post from way back (its also in my signature)

Originally posted by Tangled2011

I had a normal day, not good, not bad, just normal...went to bed and had what I can only describe as a possible life changing event. This didnt feel like a dream, which is why I woke up my wife and said something along the lines of: "What the *$"R, was that about"

The "experience" I had would be what is typically described by those who have NDE.

I felt like an immense light just emerged, like it surrounded me, and that I too was becoming "the light" I expected it to be blinding and to want to shield my eyes as it started but it wasnt like that at all...I totally get it now when people say this light is made of immense warmth and love!! I started to move towards it and merge with it, It was like my soul was the light and all of a sudden my psyhical life was nothing to worry about leaving, this was meant to happen. So I started merging with this light and for a split second, I get scared, I feel mind literally say "^&3% I don't like this, I want to go back" and I turn to see my wife, I stretch out with one arm, and then for another split second I turn back to the warm loving light and say to my wife "No, its ok, I have to go"....

...I wake up! I guess in more ways than one!

reply to post by undo


Interesting video. So this guy is saying that the Lord is going to return during the time of Leo, which is in 2012? I often wondered at the symbolism betwen the lion constellation and "the lion of judah".

reply to post by Redux


I think it's safe to say that all the brothers and sisters in Christ feel something monumental occuring. We all know the signs Jesus gave to Peter to start looking for his return and there is no doubt amoung us now that between all the prophecies concerning this one event and the current world events going on that we are indeed approaching the apex of time. Who is a christian that cannot say they feel an excitement about them at the prospect of the Lords return? Everyone else looks up at the night sky in fear of what is coming, to them they feel doom, but to us we feel liberation. There's something to that, we can feel him coming and that is the doom the non believers fear.

Thanks for the thread OP. It's great to read all of the posts. I'm a "newbie" Christian after He woke me up this year and showed me the source of the evilness that I was noticing. And truth be told, ive cried every time I read scripture, prayed or listened to a hymn. It's simply beyond words.
As to the topic at hand, I too have felt a pressure that we are there - it's all around us and in everything that I see. I'm grateful for the parts of His Divine Plan that He allows me to see.

As far as a taking away of His Bride, I have no definites but I do know that Faith in Him will offer protection and comfort. So I just pray that ALL children are taken if there is any sort of "rapture". As a parent, this would be great comfort to know that they would not have to witness what is coming.

Whilst researching the Feast of Trumpets (my first ever one!) I found the following article. It floored me, and I thought that it provided information that some of you may find very interesting:

"YAHUSHUA Fulfills the Seven Feasts of Israel:

Rabbis have taught that after being resurrected on the Feast of Trumpets, the righteous (the Bride, but not the church as is erroneously being taught now) would enter the chupah, or wedding canopy to spend seven years while the “day of trouble” [tribulation], the seven years of judgment occurs on earth. By examining an ancient Jewish wedding, we can more clearly see the picture of the union of the Church (the bride) with the Messiah.

When a man in ancient Israel married, he went to the bride’s house with a “bride price” and made a contract (covenant) with the girl’s father. If the father accepted the man and his bride price, the man would pour a glass of wine. If the girl drank it, it would indicate that she accepted the man’s proposal and they were betrothed. The man would go away and prepare a wedding chamber for his bride. When the man’s father deemed that the wedding chamber was ready, usually one to two years later, the man would return to the bride’s house and “steal” her away “like a thief in the night” at an hour when no one would suspect. He would take her to the wedding chamber for seven days. During this time, the groom’s father would hold a party to announce the marriage. At the end of the seventh day, the married couple would emerge from the chamber and partake of the marriage supper.

The ancient Jewish wedding is a picture of YAHUSHUA the Bridegroom and His Bride. The contract (covenant) was sealed at the Last Supper when YAHUSHUA shared the covenant cup with His Disciples. And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many (Mark 14:24).

YAHUSHUA, in speaking to the Disciples after the last supper said the same words that any Jewish man would tell his betrothed. In my father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go to prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also (John 14:2-3).

And, of course, YAHUSHUA paid the “Bride price” with His life. The marriage of the Bride to YAHUSHUA is described in several Bible texts. Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints (Rev. 19:7-8). The Jewish wedding ceremony is another beautiful shadow of YAHUSHUA’s return."
www.amightywind.com...

reply to post by Redux


The Bible says it will be like the days of Lot and Noah. Somewhat normal one moment, total destruction the next.

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by undo

 

Interesting video. So this guy is saying that the Lord is going to return during the time of Leo, which is in 2012? I often wondered at the symbolism betwen the lion constellation and "the lion of judah".

If you mean return as coming back to earth...the one you are going to see next is the antichrist. He is going to pretend to be the messiah and destroy everyone.

You do know that the Rapture as presented in Revelations is a farce?
www.biblicalrapture.net...
www.minuteswithmessiah.com...

You anticipate.... but without the relevent facts...

there MUST be a great 'Falling Away' first...

last I heard... there were billions of faithful which were thithing Billion$ every week to do Gods work

and that hardly sounds like a Church wide, crisis-in-faith, that preceeds the 'Lords' return by at least 42 months...


please quit piling up garbage so that the faithful will believe a lie and accept the false delusion(s)

Originally posted by kwell
reply to post by Redux

 

The Bible says it will be like the days of Lot and Noah. Somewhat normal one moment, total destruction the next.

Absurd... the 'days of Noah' were filled with iniquity ...including STDs, drugs, rock music for that era, sleasy women, men practising beastality, etc etc..

that is why only Noah & family were deemed worthy to survive----on the whole planet as the bible states...
it has nothing to do with a lack of warning or very apparent natural signs, that spring upon the population suddenly... tell me again about the Angels that searched the city & the world to find other worthey men to save==
which they could not find

Originally posted by St Udio


You anticipate.... but without the relevent facts...

there MUST be a great 'Falling Away' first...

last I heard... there were billions of faithful which were thithing Billion$ every week to do Gods work

and that hardly sounds like a Church wide, crisis-in-faith, that preceeds the 'Lords' return by at least 42 months...


please quit piling up garbage so that the faithful will believe a lie and accept the false delusion(s)

Have you been to church lately? I am amazed at all the Christians that are spiritually blind. They promote Billy Graham and all the other minions that are part of uniting all religions.....does this sound familiar to you? They enemy is now in control of the churches and they are leading the Christians into a one world religion. But most of the Christians are so asleep they don't even realize it. Here is a video with all of our Christian leaders bowing to the pope, it is near the middle of the video....www.youtube.com... It is a 7:52 on the video. Time to wake up everyone, all the signs are here.

Originally posted by St Udio

Originally posted by kwell
reply to post by Redux

 

The Bible says it will be like the days of Lot and Noah. Somewhat normal one moment, total destruction the next.

Absurd... the 'days of Noah' were filled with iniquity ...including STDs, drugs, rock music for that era, sleasy women, men practising beastality, etc etc..

that is why only Noah & family were deemed worthy to survive----on the whole planet as the bible states...
it has nothing to do with a lack of warning or very apparent natural signs, that spring upon the population suddenly... tell me again about the Angels that searched the city & the world to find other worthey men to save==
which they could not find

Really? You just described the modern world bro, you forgot the pornography too, we got plenty of that to keep the lines to hell overflowing with the lost. Keep trolling. As for the above post about people falling away from the Lord. It's happening today. If you do not go by Christ's teaching 100% you are falling away from him. There are many christians who refuse to give up their old life of fornication, sex outside of wedlock, drugs, they just go to church and worship but they do not have a charitable bone in their bodies and wouldnt give a hand to a drowning man etc. The Lord says he would spit them out of his mouth as if he never knew them, youare either hot for the Lord or Cold he refuses to accept people riding the fence. Theres your falling away from the Lord right there. It's amazing what you can do when the Holy Spirit dwells in your heart.

Excellent short video on the Rapture and Rosh Hashanah... www.youtube.com...

To be honest, I feel that I was "Raptured" on May 21, 2011, right on schedule with our illustrious Harold Camping! I am being serious!

My Rapture included the knowledge that I would have to wait for now, possibly even wait until I die of old age before I leave our Mother Earth.

I awoke that day, on May 21, with excitement and anticipation at what and how things would develop that day based on the weeks up to. ATS was buzzing from one end to the other over Harold Camping, both positively and negatively; I was not so much on-board because by then I had already asked our Lord personally to leave me behind, that my work was on the other side of this reality. I then was moved by something said here on ATS, I am not sure who said it or what post but I do clearly remember coming onto a thread and describing it. It was as if a weight was finally lifted from me.

I found out that I had been blaming GOD for all the wrongs in my life. I was blaming GOD for my abusers, for my users, and for my lack-of in my life! It wasn't even obvious at all until it was explained to me. I am sorry for not remembering that thread, and when I look back in my posting History it only takes me back to just about the end of May.

If I applied for a Job and I did not get it, I would say "Why?". If I played the Lottery and did not win, I would say "Why?" If I hurt myself, I would say "Why?" I knew who I was asking, I was asking GOD why? I was asking and then in the same breath I was blaming GOD for not allowing those things to manifest in order to enrich my life and livelihood.

Now when things do not work as positively as they should or with a different outcome than I desired I accept it with an openness as to such thoughts as "how can this be best served?" and "perhaps there is more" and I allow it to reveal the nature of itself. It made me realize that if I did win a ton of money it would all be taken from me as it will be taken from everyone else anyways!

You see, I know the irony of it is that we are Faithful but we still try to hold on and steer the ship from behind; it is best to let the Captain take the reigns so that we can do our work supporting GOD's work.

So, as metaphoric as it may sound, I was literally "Raptured" on that very day of May 21, 2011. I have since been enveloped several times in the Holy Spirit (which I can describe if someone is not familiar with this) and I have been working and praying so that I am lifted from all the pain I have carried for so very long. The measure of pain has reduced but my head is still filled with the workings of evil and so I know in my Heart that I am not worthy to be lifted into Heaven at this time. I must live through the Tribulation. It is during the Tribulation where I will be "Saved", as I know in my heart I have already been "chosen" by Christ to join him in Heaven; it is my hopes that it will be when he has disposed of the AC and his minions back into Hell where they all belong (and their attachments).

I wasn't always Human, I know that now, and I am not nearly as Human as most as I have never been able to find my niche within Society and I have never "fit in". I am a Nature Spirit who has somehow manifested into Human form. I am of this Planet and it is this Planet that I must continue and where I will be granted my Eternal Life. The Earth will have to heal and it will need all of the Nature Spirits that can awaken to the entrapment of Man's doing. I have awoken and I am so very pleased to be here!

I do not have all the answers, few would pertain to anyone unless they were me anyways, but there are several things that do confuse me.

In Revelation 12, pertaining to the Woman cloaked in the Stars with the Moon at her feet. It is proposed that the last occurrence of this astronomical event was in 3 BC (it occurs every year but not with the Moon at her feet nor on Rosh Hashana as it will once again!).

In this chapter it says that a new Son would be born, a male child, who would rule over Mankind with an iron rod, and yet I get the impression that there are many out there that feel that any return would be "the" return of Christ. Why would this not be interpreted as the AntiChrist? To rule over us with an iron rod sounds a bit like a Guard would treat his prisoners wouldn't you think?

So, I do have a tendency to ramble a bit but for what it is worth, just as I changed the "mood" of my Avatar back in May, I believe I have already been "Raptured", I was Raptured from the fate I was placing myself in by blaming GOD and ultimately blaming our LORD above! Not any more! I take all the blame! I accept my fate here on this planet, our Mother, but I will not accept the "mark" and I will not denounce Christ or his Kingdom, they may take my life if they so please as I know in my heart of hearts that my Soul belongs to our LORD and no one else!

Ironically, I am home! Heaven on Earth! Soon but not yet!

Originally posted by Greensage
To be honest, I feel that I was "Raptured" on May 21, 2011, right on schedule with our illustrious Harold Camping! I am being serious!

Thanks for sharing. I too experienced something of a rapture. On May 21st I found myself in the middle of the desert camping, preparing for a ritual, and fasting. The ritual climaxed early on the 23rd, just after midnight. I walked in the spirit, saw Christ, and was "raptured". The world "ended" there, but luckily I was in Christ-consciousness to renew the world through the ritual. Of course it was not I, but the Christ in me. He returned like a thief in the night.

So now the war in Heaven rages. Things are going to start happening quickly but as always things never quite pan out the way we think they will.

Originally posted by St Udio

Originally posted by kwell
reply to post by Redux

 

The Bible says it will be like the days of Lot and Noah. Somewhat normal one moment, total destruction the next.

Absurd... the 'days of Noah' were filled with iniquity ...including STDs, drugs, rock music for that era, sleasy women, men practising beastality, etc etc..

that is why only Noah & family were deemed worthy to survive----on the whole planet as the bible states...
it has nothing to do with a lack of warning or very apparent natural signs, that spring upon the population suddenly... tell me again about the Angels that searched the city & the world to find other worthey men to save==
which they could not find

Actually, you're wrong. It does also have to do with a "lack of warning or very apparent natural signs, that spring upon the population suddenly".

Matthew 24: 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away.