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He're how to show empathy for the middle class and poor - have your wife wear $42K in bracelets

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posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 09:31 AM
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Originally posted by ColoradoJens
reply to post by newcovenant
 


Ya' beat me to it newcovenant...my first thought was "Empathy" in the title - the Obama haters like to point out repeatedly that Dems and Obama use empathy (which needs a victim) to further socialist agendas...so you have that - and then the obvious second point is now we are criticizing successful people? How socialist.

CJ



It appears that great minds think alike!




posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 09:31 AM
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Originally posted by Shawny2222
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Yes, but many people will not stop to think that the jewlery were loaned. All they will think is how many months one piece could pay for their rent. And being the First Lady and all....people will assume.


Yes people will "assume." What those assumers need to realize is that when a person chooses to "assume," more often than not, they end up making an "ass" out of "u" and "me."



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 09:35 AM
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Originally posted by dolphinfan
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The "perk" of being the First Lady is being in a unique position to serve your country. Its not having a nice spread and being able to throw bashes for celebrities.

Yes, but all first lady's have and attend events like this, name one that didn't..... Also she is trying to help fat kids get in shape, so I'd say that's serving the country.



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 09:36 AM
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Originally posted by newcovenant

Originally posted by WildWorld
Whether it is a loan or not....she is out of touch. All the expensive vacations, that party a few months back with $100 plates or whatever it was.......they're not celebrities, it's ridiculous. And I don't give a crap what other presidents/first ladies did......this country is in shambles and they act like they are beyonce and whatever her boyfriends name is. Bleh.



Yes I think in these difficult economic times nothing but a bit of yarn, woven with rope and some beads will do. I think all of you are being too hard on her and more than a little ridiculous. Beyonce? What is this a DQ commercial?



HAHAHA!

Yes. Also those $100 dollar plates where fundraisers. So, it seems to me that you are just in attack mode..for one reason or another. In addition, I would say I would like the first family more than ever to be presentable to the world when we are having economic times. Do you want them showing up with wrinkled clothes and dollar store jewelery? No. When you entertain you put out the fine China, not the paper plates.



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 09:44 AM
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The funny part of this is if she were wearing rags and rope you people would still piss and moan about her making Americans look bad in the world's eyes. I have come too see that it does'nt matter what the Obama's do certian people will piss and moan regardless, they'll never admit to it but it's the truth.



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 09:48 AM
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Originally posted by dolphinfan
By his actions, by his tone and by his actual language, this gent believes he and his wife are far closer to King and Queen than President and First Lady.


Is that not the whole idea. The President is just a King / Queen in disguise. They are treated like Royalty and they act the part.

Regards



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by kozmo

Originally posted by Kali74
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It only sends a wrong message if you're overly critical and out to make mountains of molehills. It's great advertisement for dress designers and jewlers etc. It has always been done, for Hollywood as well as Politics.


You are clearly as out of touch with reality as the Obama's.
This is NOT Hollywood! THEY are NOT celebrities! This is NOT an awards show. Get it!?!? No red carpets. No paparazzi. No fashion designers. Entertainment tonight wasn't covering the event. That whiny hag Joan Rivers wasn't on hand interviewing.

As the leader and first lady of the the free world, in an economy that has millions struggling for basic daily sustinence, this sends exactly the WRONG message! The fact that you condone this, that you think of them as celebrities, gives me great pause to wonder how so many have simply abdicated their right, NO their RESPONSIBILITY to vote responsibly. This is why our nation is crumbling... because people like you look as these people as celebrities and not what they are - PUBLIC SERVANTS!!!


And you just continue with assumptions and getting all caught up in your hatred that you can't even see straight. Hyper-focusing on what a politician wears in a negative light is as bad as being dazzled by it. I don't see the Obama's or any politician as a celebrity. But keep fueling the left right hatred, it's serving us well isn't it? Lets focus on some borrowed jewelry instead of organzing ideas of what the American people should be demanding.



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 09:53 AM
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This thread is ridiculous.
It's proof of the manufactured outrage machine that is the "news". To even point out that she is wearing an expensive bracelet during a state function is to prove that you are focusing on them SO specifically just the moment to pounce on anything that you perceive as a "gotcha" moment.

Our culture is broken. It's been broken since the end of WWII.

We need a civil war and a national reset button. We need a modestly long and horrible atrocity filled civil war. So that people can get back to the reality of what is important and what isn't.



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by dolphinfan
It is a bit disgusting that during a period when millions of people are out of work, losing their homes and losing hope that the President would allow his wife to wear $42K of diamond bracelets at a function where she was certain to be photographed.


What makes you think the president has any business ALLOWING Michelle to do ANYTHING? She is a big girl and not under the thumb of her husband.
If people have money and can afford these baubles, why SHOULDN'T she wear them? I thought you guys were all for freedom of expression, free market and people's freedom to make money and spend it as they see fit...



Originally posted by Shawny2222
Yes, but many people will not stop to think that the jewlery were loaned.


Oh, well, we definitely better not allow people to think for themselves. Right? I mean, are you suggesting that the President and First Lady should dress and act with the intention of getting us to think a certain way? Are you suggesting they pretend to be poor so we can feel better? I say let people think whatever hair-brained bull crap they wish to think. And let them look for the truth if they have enough brains to do so.



The bracelets were on loan for the evening; a common practice in the fashion industry.



Originally posted by dolphinfan
She could have and should have dressed modestly to the event. Dressing modestly would have been seen as a positive, sensitive jesture,


So, you're into faking out the public, too, huh? You'd rather have them pretending to be something they're not, and all for show. That's so ridiculous! You're basically begging the president to lie to you!


I want the pres and his wife to be who they are. Not to try to fake me out or pretend that they're something that they're not.



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by adam76
...standing up their telling us how they care about the middle class and poor while wearing their thousand dollar suits...


How is it that wearing an expensive suit negates caring about the poor? My husband just bought a new motorcycle and we're spending thousands beautifying our home. Does that mean we don't care about people who don't have this kind of money? No. So, your logic is highly flawed.

But that's not surprising. Most anti-Obama rhetoric and rumors are highly flawed.



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 12:28 PM
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Agreed! They have all attended these types of events. Now which ones wore the $40,000 in diamonds again!?

And there you have it!



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 12:30 PM
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Apparently you are not familiar with the phrase, "Discretion is the better part of valor". No one is suggesting they roll up wearing burlap sacks, but COME ON!?!? $40,000 in diamond bracelets???? Wrong message/wrong time! Just accept it!



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 12:34 PM
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I'm assuming nothing. The assumptions are being made by the Obamas and their supporters. When you are the leader of the free world, EVERYTHING you do is scrutinized - it comes with the job. Intelligent people are aware of this and act accordingly. Idiots, narcissists, egomaniacs etc... tend to have a more favorable view of themselves than the the general public and don't have the intellectual capacity to use discretion.

In short, just because you can doesn't mean you should!

And on a final thought. I am a strict conservative libertarian. I've got no use for either side of the aisle as it exists today!




posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 12:39 PM
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While I understand that these items were given on loan to the First Lady (which has also probably happened with other First Ladies) and that they do; therefore, not belong to her…

The above actually in my opinion makes the whole situation into a bad statement.

I originally was going to chime in with “The Obama’s made 5 million last year they can afford 42k in jewelry – let them enjoy their success this is America after all.” I for one do not begrudge the successful their trappings and I am also no fan of the Obamas for sure but that was my original juedgment.

However, to turn the Presidential Office, through the First Lady into an ad whore for some jewelry company makes a very poor statement about her (and the First Ladies before her) willingness to sell herself to the highest bidder for some darn bling.

Kind of a scary statement in general about politicians and their wives I should think.

I understand the image whoring with actors and such on award shows – but political office should not be a marketing tool!

For shame!

edit on 22/9/2011 by Golf66 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 01:00 PM
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Dear Michelle, I (just like your husband) believe in re-distribution of wealth. Please send me that Goth cuff at your earliest convenience.
'K, Thnx, Bye.



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 01:12 PM
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But it's ok, she got her clothes are from K-Mart.

I really don't care a rats behind if she parades around in diamonds etc, It doesn't show me anything but that she likes to adorn herself, nothing wrong with that. I don't think it tasteless, however her clothes are
. LOL!
edit on 22-9-2011 by ldyserenity because: missing word



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 01:52 PM
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In all seriousness, how can you possibly care about this with so many other issues to focus on. I'm not entirely sure we agree on the definition of assumption, because you clearly did make an incorrect assumption of me and please do tell me which assumptions I, or Obama supporters made.



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 02:17 PM
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If you want your president to have empathy for the middle class and poor. Elect someone who is middle class or poor. Affluence breeds apathy.



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by kozmo
The assumptions are being made by the Obamas and their supporters.


What assumptions are being made by the Obama's and their supporters regarding this issue?


When you are the leader of the free world, EVERYTHING you do is scrutinized - it comes with the job.


True. So what? I'm sure they are aware that they're being scrutinized. Why should they pretend to be something they're not? I don't get it. How SHOULD they behave, according to you?



And on a final thought. I am a strict conservative libertarian.


I thought Libertarians believed that each person should be permitted to create their own wealth and use it as they see fit. What about all the freedom talk I hear from Libertarians? Why is a self-described "strict Libertarian" sticking his nose into someone's behavior and stating how they SHOULD act in public? It seems VERY anti-personal freedom, to me.



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 06:21 PM
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The OP is just proving the hypocrisy in the current anti-Obama right wing America. Get the government out of people's personal lives! Unless...
a) A gay person wants to get married, because that is just wrong so the government should regulate it
b) A woman decides she wants to have contraceptives/plan her pregnancy/get a first trimester abortion
c) Someone is smoking marijuana (immoral!!!!! therefore, wrong!!!!!!)
d) Someone is watching pornography (immoral!!!! bad!!!!!! country moral system breaking down omg!!!!)
e) Someone is a Muslim (terrorism! They shouldn't get to build a mosque on their own property because they are all out to kill us!)
f) A person was born in America even though their parents weren't. Being born in America doesn't make you a U.S. citizen anymore!
g) Someone who cares about their heritage makes it loud and clear, ie, Mexicans putting up a Mexican flag... because really, only true patriotic Americans should get to express their culture in the country where we are allowed to express whatever we want
h) A woman wants to wear 42k dollars worth of jewelry at a fancy event. Government, get your hands off MY money, but get your hands all over Michelle's!

The list goes on. And on. And on. Seriously, people, if you're really a libertarian and you really care about upholding the Constitution, figure out what beliefs you are actually subscribing to please?



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