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Well the only thing I ever caught that was human was the mtDNA while the rest had unhuman base pairs. This was explained as this creature being labed. Of course it makes total sense with storys from people getting abducted. If this skull is human then it was more then sick without signs of abnormal defects. I'm actually shocked your not buying this as an early stage of evolution. It also has no signs of any defects. Anyhow it has over 30% more brain mass, no iniot, shallow eye sockets that couldn't possibly house human eyes, even if he had graves disease. The eye sockets are also dropped down where the nose should be and its totally missing any signs of sinuses. How do you explain it having adult teeth with more adult teeth waiting to come down? Must be a defect of some sort LOL. It's not human.
Ah yes, the Star Child, because it's impossible to have been any of the mutations listed here:
Genetic Disorders
They are working on sequencing the DNA and have only been able to get fragments at a time. What they have found have been human chromosomes, human mitochondria, and human DNA. Nothing supports alien, and if you bring up the "unmatched" string of DNA, couldn't that have been caused by a genetic disease as well? If your chromosomes, which dictate your development, have a mutation in them, then it has the potential to completely rewrite huge segments of DNA. There is nothing particularly unusual or alien about it.
Originally posted by itsthetooth
Are you possibly looking at just the first test, or any others? Because the first test was proven to be false by a more advanced test later on.
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The first test was only a primer test and ONLY tested mtDNA. So they said it was human. He had to wait years for better technology to come out so that he could compare nuclear DNA. Some matched, and some didn't. It appears to have alien mother, and alien father and Human mtDNA which would indicate this guy was made in a test tube. The human chromosomes were scraped out of the nucleus. The incubater or serrogate would have been human. It's possible that a human carried this alien to birth, also possible a human package was abducted and brought to term in a dish. We can do this today its called a zygote.
I never saw where it was shown that the first test was faulty. It was limited, but not faulty.
Also, you probably missed my post at the end of the last page. Where did you get the idea of it having to take trillions of years to evolve? Your concept of time seems to be skewed severely.
Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by ironbutterflyrusted
How far could a limited gene pool take a species.? could there be a scenario whereby a species returns to a type that existed in the past.? a set of changes that returns, and is still viable because the favored environment has changed very little over time...dry arid, wet marsh, etc.
I had to share my finds on this. Of course I learned this off a site sharing thoughts on evolution. There are two parts to evolution. Microevolution which is real and has been observed and Macroevolution which has been explained like a tornado ripping through a junk yard and magically assembling a jet airplane. Evolutionists want to believe this over aliens doing it, even though we have it in writting.
The other part that is causing so much confusion is how all life as we know it is all made up of the same protiens and amino acids. Its the arrangment of those that create a sort of programming per se. So it does give the appearnace that we are all related to all life. Of course evolutionists miss the fact that it could just as easily be a creator that did all this, or several creators.
a.k.a naive people who blatantly turn there backs to God just want to so badly believe what they do..
which in my opinion is purely subconscious. you dont want to have to feel responsible for doing anything bad, or feel like you should even strive to be good, and by good, i mean things like going out of your way to help people or along lines like that. its much easier to accept a more comfortable belief and connect the dots you want. but when you do that you are cheating yourself. you will never see the big picture.
Originally posted by itsthetooth
The idea of it taking trillions of years is based on microevolution, and how we have never found that missing link. It's the only explanation for the vast amount of differences between us and primates, and the lack of evidence. Unfortuntaly its not possible because earth is dated at 4 billion years. Even if I'm wrong in my guesstimation, your trying to sell me on the idea that we evolved from primates in just 4 billion years. There is never any benchmark on what we were before that because we are unable to find any of these stages. We are also unable to observe any comparable changes in older DNA from old human bones.
Let me ask you an honest question and give me an honest answer. If you had the ability to make life, like all the species here on earth, would you do so, and make a lot of them and even make planets? Or would you not use this talent?
We have just as much proof of evolution, depending on what people want to accept.
Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by colin42
Oh not at all. I think it proves probability. We have just as much proof of evolution, depending on what people want to accept. We know from reports that aliens like to play god. Isn't it ironic I are unsure who our god is or how we got here.
Diversity could be nothing more than a creator recycling the same things, with different things about them.edit on 5-12-2011 by itsthetooth because: (no reason given)
Explain diversity without referring to evolution. Go on and try it, or are you too embarrassed.
Every time we go down this avenue I end up asking where are the bones? We have found 19. I'm more inclined to believe those are aliens, and not ancestors.
What missing link? Why is trillions the only explanation? I'm saying we evolved from primates within 2-10 million years. Do you know how long you live? Do you know how much a human being will change over just 10,000 years? Multiply the seemingly small change by a couple hundred and you have a pretty big change. Perhaps even 3% of the DNA.
I understand that, its just that I wanted you to see how easy it might be if a creator was involved.
I don't see the relevancy of the question. I might, if I had the power, but that doesn't validate the idea of the possibility of someone having done it.
And you are right, not because aliens don't exists or visit us, but because the evidence is hardly left behind, and doesn't live on this planet. It's the only way they can asses these things.
And there's the crux of the matter. Evolution is a field of scientific research. You can't pick and choose what you want to accept as evidence. It all works together to prove that evolution is an empirically verifiable fact. Ufologists on the other hand has taken a decidedly non-scientific approach to their field of study. For the most part ufology follows a top-down design in which their conclusion is already made and they are looking for evidence to prove that conclusion. This leads to a large number of biases. Science on the other hand uses a bottom-up design where individual data points are collected and then synthesized to reach a conclusion. Then there's also the fact that science relies on empirical evidence whereas ufology uses whatever it can get, most of which is not empirical in nature.
I guess that depends on how much the person knows about each. I know more about the supernatural.
To look at evolutionary biology and ufology and then to state that they present equally supported cases either belies a lack of knowledge of how scientists operate; how ufologists operate; or both.