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I can't believe you all this time accusing me of not entering into a debate when its actually been you all this time not entering into a debate. Claiming I never offered definitions when I clearly have. Ignoring the definitions when I have reposted them over dozens of times. How dishonest can you be.
Your such a liar Colin. What kind of a fool do you take me for. You must think your pretty smart just because you have been rejecting my definitions.
I see no logical argument here. No comment
It's clear to me, and its also clear to me that you assume a lot.
Not only have you lost this point already. Your use of the bible totally debunked and rejected what is the point of further discussion when again you supply a quote that says:
1. It is used to help determine the lifestyle and practices of people living in biblical times. (Not a clear historical document.)
2. There are a wide range of interpretations in the field of biblical archaeology. (Not a clear historical document.)
3. and there is universal scholarly consensus that the events of the Babylonian captivity of the 6th century BC have a basis in history. (Again Not a clear historical document.)
I don't agree and your reading it wrong.
Nope. Read your own information how they wrote it not how you think they wrote it. So the only part where you have a claim for any type of documented history is Hellenistic and Roman eras. A bit late for your intervention by aliens you say is clearly documented.
The sections I have addressed are clear in a multituide of ways. There is no question.
Your whole quote say's nothing about a clear historical document that backs up your insane claims to maintain a your homemade religion laid on a foundation of lies, denial and ignorance. I don’t see a bright future for it or you, its self appointed messiah
You failed again. You will again deny and again ignore so what is your point?
No I allread posted it a long time ago, you might have to go back to find it.
So tooth, are you gonna post a properly sourced definition of target food...or do you expect us to waste our time with the one you made up?
Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by MrXYZ
No I allread posted it a long time ago, you might have to go back to find it.
So tooth, are you gonna post a properly sourced definition of target food...or do you expect us to waste our time with the one you made up?
That would be because I made it up, how lost are you, I made this clear a long time ago.
Well, you can't seem to find a definition and present us with the source...so you're wrong, it's completely made up until you show us a properly sourced definition
Well then I stand corrected, do you have some dates and times that you found this to be impossible, and do you have sources, becasue I hate just taking your word at it. Possibly some links as well.
I don't need to try living inside a whale because it's PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE...kind of like I don't need to jump into boiling water to know it would boil me to death
That is just YOUR opinion, no comment either.
Your reply is just your ignorant opinion. Your ignorant opinion has no value in this thread. Supply a reasoned argument. Supported with evidence, links and quotes from those links. Until you do no comment
Target food is only one of several things that prove against evolution. Not all are made up as you say.
So you are basically arguing against the theory of evolution using something you completely made up?
Not silly at all seeing how some of it is historically documented.
Please tell me you realize how INCREDIBLY DUMB AND SILLY that is
Using the theory of gravity as a comparison with evolution is the weakest strawman argument I have ever seen, seriously, if you ony had a brain.
While you're at it, why don't you argue against gravity because it would require pink unicorn horn dust?
Target food is only one of several things that prove against evolution. Not all are made up as you say.
Not silly at all seeing how some of it is historically documented.
Using the theory of gravity as a comparison with evolution is the weakest strawman argument I have ever seen, seriously, if you ony had a brain.
You can't even compare the theory of gravity to the theory of evolution. Gravity is repeatable and predictable. Evolution is not repeatable and not predictable. No comparison.
How shameful. How tooth. How boring.
They must not be that big of a deal as I notice you still havent reposted them.
Admission that the bible is not 'a clear historical document'. No doubt you will dishonestly retract and deny your statement.
Ok now I'm seeing what the problem is here, your assuming that something can't be clear if it might not be accurate. Now your making assumptions on top of assumptions that first of all the rewritten part can't be accurate. But I did explain to you that the bible does have a lot of redundant sections, so maybe they used this to their advantage. At any rate if they wrote it in clear understanding regardless of how accuarate it is, it is still clear.
So again not 'a clear historical document'. No doubt you will do a 180 degree turn. No problem. Just your opinion that carries no weight. No reasoned argument, no supporting evidence. No interest. Boring trash as usual. no comment.
So now your complain that the bible is not first hand, or at least parts of it isn't first hand. So now the question becomes what parts, and are they parts we have used.
More examples of your boring, meaningless opinion. No reasoned argument. No reason to reply further. No comment.
As far as how I source my information, the only difference between you and I colin is I don't make random assumptions and stretch whats offered, instead I look for the subject to be repeated several times to ensure its clear. For example you have written back now over three times asking me to explain what it is your complaining about. I told you over three times I wont be able to do so unless you repost the problem. All times you failed to offer the post so its clear your not going to.
You use the bible, written by Christians but you don’t relate? Your claims are not only dishonest but have no basis in reality. No comment.
No its that I don't consider myself to be christian so I can't relate
Again you dismiss the very information you linked to. Your problem, your denial, your opinion. No need to comment further. Your unsupported destroyed opinion carries no weight. You are dismissed.
You on the other hand persist in throwing me into that section when I have told you time and time again, that I don't believe in religion.
Your home made religion is undeniable by anyone other than you. Proof of delusion if any more were needed. It is not. You have fallen from messiah to Judas. Well done. No further comment required.
You have this automatic fascination with the bible having to belong to someone that is religious, but your wrong, and I have explained that but you don't get it.
I have too much respect for Christians to say you are one of them. You are just a self deluded religious fundamentalist that deserves the equal amount of respect as you show honesty. NONE. No further comment.
Again I can't answer something from a christians view, I don't know how many times I have to say it, I'm not christian.
You think you have all the answers and you do not even know the first lesson. Know thy self. You are the one claiming to have the answers based on the bible. The onus is on you to prove it. You cannot as you are sterile. Impudent. Devoid of any wisdom or knowledge. No further comment required
Your asking me to enter into a debate which I have made clear over a dozen times now that I'm not in a position to do so, as I'm not religious
I have respect for your point of view. The posts you see here in response to tooth are because he sees the bible as absolute fact. He claims a clear historical document that shows god is an alien that brought mankind to earth to mine gold, or maybe just a punishment. He is only too happy to pursue his claims in a very dishonest way.
Originally posted by yak055h
reply to post by yourmaker
Religions are based on faith not proof. Many of us who have faith in creationism will offer no proof. If ever there is proof of creationism it will will be a dark day. All Christian beliefs are based on faith. Proof of Christianity comes, Christianity dies.
Peace,
yak055h
Starting your rant by calling me a liar is not entering into debate. Lying about giving definitions is not entering into a debate. Not ending with a question mark means no need to answer.
I can't believe you all this time accusing me of not entering into a debate when its actually been you all this time not entering into a debate. Claiming I never offered definitions when I clearly have. Ignoring the definitions when I have reposted them over dozens of times. How dishonest can you be.
What the hell is the bibel? Other than the bibel, another historical document I presume You have not offered a reasoned argument ( PS link to bibel please). You have again bored me. No need to offer any further comment.
It's clear to me, and its also clear to me that you assume a lot.
If the bibel is not a historical document maybe you better contact the wiki author and have them correct it.
Of course you don’t. That is how denial goes and you are so deep in denial you must find it hard to breath. Again, just your opinion that is quite frankly worthless. No need for further comment.
I don't agree and your reading it wrong.
There are loads of questions and not only can you not answer them, you don’t even know what they are. Boring as usual. No comment needed as usual.
The sections I have addressed are clear in a multituide of ways. There is no question.
Really? You maintained for many pages you had not made those terms up and now you rant on about how you made them up.
That would be because I made it up, how lost are you, I made this clear a long time ago.
Of course its made up, I allready said I made it up, that means I made it up.
Nope. That was a statement but I dont expect you to know that as you dont even know how to use quote marks.
Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by colin42
That is just YOUR opinion, no comment either.
Your reply is just your ignorant opinion. Your ignorant opinion has no value in this thread. Supply a reasoned argument. Supported with evidence, links and quotes from those links. Until you do no comment
The only thing funny about it is how your unable to produce target food for humans. Now thats funny. You may as well say we have not intended food to eat.
Well, your other arguments are complete and utter nonsense too...but you keep on repeating this one a lot, which is comical given that the entire thing's made up
Well then you need to get ahold of the authors and let them all know they have it all wrong, and you have it all rigth.
Which doesn't make it true or correct. The bible for example are witness accounts intermixed with fictional stories and exaggerations...only a fool would pretend that's anything but proof of what people back then BELIEVED to be true...over 2000 years ago
Thats a bold face lie. Gravity is repeatable, its testable, and recreatable, its also verifiable, evolution is none of those.
We have as much objective evidence for evolution as we do for gravity...and we are applying both theories ACTIVELY
The only thing they have been applying is the fact that there is always change, which again doesn't prove its because of evolution. Again ADHD makes changes and its not evolution.
Quick, tell the scientists who ACTIVELY APPLY the theory of evolution daily that this isn't really possible...they'll be surprised, because they've being doing it for years
Do yourself a favor and buy a basic book about biology...because you have no clue what you're talking about...
The only thing funny about it is how your unable to produce target food for humans. Now thats funny. You may as well say we have not intended food to eat.
Well then you need to get ahold of the authors and let them all know they have it all wrong, and you have it all rigth.
Thats a bold face lie. Gravity is repeatable, its testable, and recreatable, its also verifiable, evolution is none of those.
The only thing they have been applying is the fact that there is always change, which again doesn't prove its because of evolution.
Again ADHD makes changes and its not evolution.
Your delusional.
Shameful that you haven't reposted them, I have no idea what your even talking about.
How shameful. How tooth. How boring.
So I take it you must fell that my opinion just so happens to be well documented by coincidence, right?
Admission that the bible is not 'a clear historical document'. No doubt you will dishonestly retract and deny your statement.
You have offered no reasoned argument, only your opinion. No comment. No interest. Boring.
It's not a coincidence that my supposed opinion happens to be well documented, your lable is not valid.
So again not 'a clear historical document'. No doubt you will do a 180 degree turn. No problem. Just your opinion that carries no weight. No reasoned argument, no supporting evidence. No interest. Boring trash as usual. no comment
Not commenting is your best and only hand at this point.
As far as how I source my information, the only difference between you and I colin is I don't make random assumptions and stretch whats offered, instead I look for the subject to be repeated several times to ensure its clear. For example you have written back now over three times asking me to explain what it is your complaining about. I told you over three times I wont be able to do so unless you repost the problem. All times you failed to offer the post so its clear your not going to.
More examples of your boring, meaningless opinion. No reasoned argument. No reason to reply further. No comment.
Thats because there was an underlying purpose behind religion that I'm sure you couldn't understand.
No its that I don't consider myself to be christian so I can't relate
You use the bible, written by Christians but you don’t relate? Your claims are not only dishonest but have no basis in reality. No comment.
Just because I agree with some of it doesn't make me religious.
Again you dismiss the very information you linked to. Your problem, your denial, your opinion. No need to comment further. Your unsupported destroyed opinion carries no weight. You are dismissed.
And explain to me how it can be home made when its documented in the bible?
Your home made religion is undeniable by anyone other than you. Proof of delusion if any more were needed. It is not. You have fallen from messiah to Judas. Well done. No further comment required.
Which is all good because I'm obviously not here for respect, that should have been clear from the moment that you started pretending to ignore my definitions.
I have too much respect for Christians to say you are one of them. You are just a self deluded religious fundamentalist that deserves the equal amount of respect as you show honesty. NONE. No further comment
Thats your opinion and only works if you belive the bible is worthless.
You think you have all the answers and you do not even know the first lesson. Know thy self. You are the one claiming to have the answers based on the bible. The onus is on you to prove it. You cannot as you are sterile. Impudent. Devoid of any wisdom or knowledge. No further comment required
Which is all good again as I wasn't here to only get your deluded opinions .
Stage three is in effect.
Your claims, unsupported opinions are now a dead decaying corpse. I will only respond when for fun I decide to disturb the flies. From up wind of course as I tire of the smell.
You have been dismissed
When are you going to learn that you can only stack your lies so deep before they come back to slap you, which has allready happend countelss times.
Starting your rant by calling me a liar is not entering into debate. Lying about giving definitions is not entering into a debate. Not ending with a question mark means no need to answer.
You had better point out that misspell as its all you have.
What the hell is the bibel? Other than the bibel, another historical document I presume You have not offered a reasoned argument ( PS link to bibel please). You have again bored me. No need to offer any further comment.
Well its not the first time you have run into a problem reading. Your first was reading about evolution and actually believing in hypothesis and theories.
Of course you don’t. That is how denial goes and you are so deep in denial you must find it hard to breath. Again, just your opinion that is quite frankly worthless. No need for further comment.
No there aren't, you can't even grasp the idea of target food much less what it represents.
There are loads of questions and not only can you not answer them, you don’t even know what they are. Boring as usual. No comment needed as usual.