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Can you prove evolution wrong?*

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posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 10:42 PM
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It pertains to Humans because much of our Human Genome is riddled with recumbant DNA. This DNA are VIRUS that after infecting our ancestors millions of years ago all the way to right now...have and are changing our Genome and rewritting what we are. THIS....is...EVOLUTION BABY!

WE even share certain VIRUS caused Genetic encoding with Many animals as the trait is passed down over millions of years as we evolved form a small rodent like mammal all the way to what we are today.

These are FACTS and they are undeniable ones. Split Infinity




posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 10:59 PM
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It pertains to Humans because much of our Human Genome is riddled with recumbant DNA. This DNA are VIRUS that after infecting our ancestors millions of years ago all the way to right now...have and are changing our Genome and rewritting what we are. THIS....is...EVOLUTION BABY!
Ok but thats just like saying that an airplane must also be a car because it also has tires.

Just because all life is made up of the same protiens and amino acids and frequently share matched strands of DNA DOES NOT mean they are related.

I want to see in writing where it says that these molecular traits have been found in humans.




WE even share certain VIRUS caused Genetic encoding with Many animals as the trait is passed down over millions of years as we evolved form a small rodent like mammal all the way to what we are today.

These are FACTS and they are undeniable ones. Split Infinity
But we never evolved from a small rodent. There has never been any verifiable bones or fossils of transgression. There has never been the event witnessed in action, and there has never been intermediate species. It's all a shamm, there is nothing to support it.


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posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 11:10 PM
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TOOTH...Viral DNA encoding in you and me as well as a dog and cat....means at one time we all had a common ancestor. Split Infinity



posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 11:50 PM
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Split I can't say that I agree with that.
DNA is basically the code/language of life.

"In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God"

The Creator would have used the same "language" to bring all creatures about.



posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 11:53 PM
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Originally posted by Quadrivium
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Split I can't say that I agree with that.
DNA is basically the code/language of life.

"In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God"

The Creator would have used the same "language" to bring all creatures about.


I am not debating whether there is a GOD or not. What I am doing is providing actual proof of the process that created Humans and all life on Earth. It is not in conflict with a persons belief in GOD. Split Infinity



posted on Jan, 7 2012 @ 12:00 AM
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TOOTH...Viral DNA encoding in you and me as well as a dog and cat....means at one time we all had a common ancestor. Split Infinity
And where is the proof of this viral encoding?



posted on Jan, 7 2012 @ 12:02 AM
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Originally posted by SplitInfinity
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TOOTH...Viral DNA encoding in you and me as well as a dog and cat....means at one time we all had a common ancestor. Split Infinity


But the evidence does not actually show that every creature on earth came from one common ancestor (LUCA).
That little tid bit is based mostly on assumption.
As I said before "I agree with many of the principals the theory of evolution has sucked into itself".
The main parts that I have a problem with are the ones built on assumptions.



posted on Jan, 7 2012 @ 12:07 AM
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I think if evolutionism were true, we would have proof in fossilized bones, proof from a plethora of intermediate species with each species. We would be able to see slight changes in our DNA through out any of the process. We would be able to compare and tie species to other species.

None of this works right now.
Darwin himself stated that if he was unable to locate any transgression, than the theory was a fail. He was correct, it failed and continues to fail.



posted on Jan, 7 2012 @ 03:17 AM
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No its not, because if it was progress, you would find yourself doing it regardless if it was needed or not. Your only doing it because there is a need. It's adaptation.
Truely another ignorant statement. Working, the modern day equivalent to hunting is not adaption it is survival. Dont work = dont eat = dont live.

169 pages and you still dont know the meaning of: adaption, fact,evidence, and evolution. That is truely scandilous.



Well yes and no. Your on the right track though. Of course I have never been on the home planet but its just obvious that there is NOTHING here to accomodate our species. It's all man made accomodating. So to a large degree I'm guessing because I have never been there. I can only see what we have here and make asertation from that.
No. A wake up call for you. It is nowhere near on the right track. There is nothing to accomodate our species? Are you for real?

Life is a struggle for ALL living things. NOTHING is catered for. NOTHING is provided for free, grattis to any animal on this planet.



If we are scavengers it answers a lot of questions. I'm sure we don't like to think of ourselves as such thats for sure. But we are owning up to a lot of things that would make us such.
Can I see progress? Many pages ago when I told you we were first scavengers you dismissed it 100%. You did not like to think of yourself as being related to a scavenger and worse a primate scavenger. Of course it answers a lot of questions. That is what science does.



I'll bet it does, the fact is we have been living in a fantasy world where we think we belong here and continue to get rejected by the planet more and more. It's just mindboggling how so many people can miss whats actually going on. Having the ability to seperate ones personal feelings and position from the picture is the best way to see and understand whats going on. Not everyone has that ability, I do.
Is this another one of your jokes? As I have told you many time before you are deluded. It is not an insult it is a statement of fact, above is even more proof.



My words chosen might not be the best. We have no natural bond to them, maybe thats better.
Nope. That is many times worse. Humans form a bond to all the animals listed and more and most if not all the animals respond.



Its all redundant adaptation.
Ha Ha HA! You dont even know what that means do you? Answer the question about the bushman living the life of a hunter gatherer today who should not even exist according to you.



But why, please tell, would we need opportunity when we are supposedly on our correct planet to begin with?
Oh dear me. This planet is in constant change. This means niches are destroyed, expanded, created. So all life faces change due to it. This means ALL life needs to take advantage of opportunity or it is very likely to fail and become extinct.

This is all elementary knowledge you should have at least a grasp of.



Ok I read it a little more intently. They too appear to be somewhat of scavangers, however prefer to eat things that don't move.
Whatever. You just cannot read what is infront of you without putting your insane spin on it.



I'm challenging anyone reading this to present me with a single thing that proves we are from this planet, I wait, and seriously am anxious to hear anything, thats real and within reason of course.
Then I suggest you begin your own thread on that subject. This thread is for those that believe Evolution to be false to explain divesity without it. It appears you do not understand subject matter either.


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posted on Jan, 7 2012 @ 03:28 AM
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A Human Being is simply a multitude of single celled lifeforms that have found it convenient to gather in this fashion. You have to look at the data and if you do that...you will see the proof. Split Infinity



posted on Jan, 7 2012 @ 03:32 AM
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Originally posted by itsthetooth
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TOOTH...Viral DNA encoding in you and me as well as a dog and cat....means at one time we all had a common ancestor. Split Infinity
And where is the proof of this viral encoding?


The proof is readily available just about anywhere on the web or you could even call up the information and public relations dept. of the CDC...Center for Dicease Control. They deal with the Fact of Evolution on a daily basis as they work on Geneticly engineered syrums to protect us.

Split Infinity



posted on Jan, 7 2012 @ 11:41 AM
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Truely another ignorant statement. Working, the modern day equivalent to hunting is not adaption it is survival. Dont work = dont eat = dont live.
It seriously offers nothing in the way of evolutionism.




169 pages and you still dont know the meaning of: adaption, fact,evidence, and evolution. That is truely scandilous.
Well I recently posted the definition for adaptation, is there something you think I'm missing?




No. A wake up call for you. It is nowhere near on the right track. There is nothing to accomodate our species? Are you for real?
Ah HA, a clue.




Life is a struggle for ALL living things. NOTHING is catered for. NOTHING is provided for free, grattis to any animal on this planet.
So when an anteater has claws specifically to tear up ant hills, special hearing to hear the ants, special nose to smell the ants, special long sticky tounge to reach and grab the ants, are you honestly going to tell me you believe that nothing here on earth is catered to? Honestly dude, your wrong. The only think the anteater is missing is a silver spoon.




Can I see progress? Many pages ago when I told you we were first scavengers you dismissed it 100%. You did not like to think of yourself as being related to a scavenger and worse a primate scavenger. Of course it answers a lot of questions. That is what science does.
If there were different catagorys of scavangers, I think we might be in our own arena.




Is this another one of your jokes? As I have told you many time before you are deluded. It is not an insult it is a statement of fact, above is even more proof.
Your seriously starting to strike me as the kind of person that throws garbage out of there car window because you honestly think that humans couldn't harm this planet if they wanted to.




Nope. That is many times worse. Humans form a bond to all the animals listed and more and most if not all the animals respond.
You might be confusing an inherint bond, which there never is, with a man made bond.




Ha Ha HA! You dont even know what that means do you? Answer the question about the bushman living the life of a hunter gatherer today who should not even exist according to you.
I'm sure they do exist, I'm not saying I don't believe in them, what I'm saying is they have to divert more of there time to hunting and its no way to live. Why would the ant eater be so catered to, and us not?




Oh dear me. This planet is in constant change. This means niches are destroyed, expanded, created. So all life faces change due to it. This means ALL life needs to take advantage of opportunity or it is very likely to fail and become extinct.

This is all elementary knowledge you should have at least a grasp of.
Then why does the anteater keep all of his abilitys and we lose ours?




Whatever. You just cannot read what is infront of you without putting your insane spin on it.
No spin, thats what I read.




Whatever. You just cannot read what is infront of you without putting your insane spin on it.
Well I have done both, I have proven evolutionism to be wrong, mostly with links you guys provided me, in addition to none of them claiming evolutionism to be real, while explaing that a creator could have easily made diversity.



posted on Jan, 7 2012 @ 12:02 PM
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The proof is readily available just about anywhere on the web or you could even call up the information and public relations dept. of the CDC...Center for Dicease Control. They deal with the Fact of Evolution on a daily basis as they work on Geneticly engineered syrums to protect us.
I know. Speciation and evolution in a virus is scary and real.



posted on Jan, 7 2012 @ 12:25 PM
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It seriously offers nothing in the way of evolutionism.
I know and you have been told that many times. Neither does going to work. What it does show is the truth to your lie and now blatant lie that humans cannot survive without modern medicine, inoculations, treated water and processed food, homes, heating.

The very fact that you have avoided answering this point for the second time in a row shows you to be willing to lie and be decietful in order to persue your agenda.


Well I recently posted the definition for adaptation, is there something you think I'm missing?
Yes I saw it. It was another catastophe on your part again wasnt it.



So when an anteater has claws specifically to tear up ant hills, special hearing to hear the ants, special nose to smell the ants, special long sticky tounge to reach and grab the ants, are you honestly going to tell me you believe that nothing here on earth is catered to? Honestly dude, your wrong. The only think the anteater is missing is a silver spoon.
Yet another dumb, uneducated and ignorant reply. Its called EVOLUTION. The ant eater has evovled to be that way. A specialist.



If there were different catagorys of scavangers, I think we might be in our own arena.
What type of half arsed answer is that? A lion scavenges, a scavenger the hyena hunts. Animals take advantage of opportunities. Your lack of knowledge of the natural world is only overshadowed by your ignorance of evolution.



Your seriously starting to strike me as the kind of person that throws garbage out of there car window because you honestly think that humans couldn't harm this planet if they wanted to.
Here you go. Off in a tangent yet again nothing to do with the comment your meant to be addressing. That is the only ability you seem to have to me. Defection



You might be confusing an inherint bond, which there never is, with a man made bond.
Ha Ha. Again you have been proved wrong but havent got the moral fibre to admit it. Try covering over your mistakes with more lies and deciet.



I'm sure they do exist, I'm not saying I don't believe in them, what I'm saying is they have to divert more of there time to hunting and its no way to live. Why would the ant eater be so catered to, and us not?
They actually spend less time hunting than we do working so your pretext is wrong again. I would not swap places with them but they live happily in a way you contend humans cannot.

You do love the anteater dont you. Again, no animal is catered for. For you to maintain this uneducated and moronic stance shows the dishonesty of your argument and your inability to understand the information presented to you or the world around you.



Then why does the anteater keep all of his abilitys and we lose ours?
The anteaters food source has not changed, the anteater has no pressure to change. If his food sorce disapeared he is so specialised he would likely follow.

Where do you get it that we lose our abilities? Another fantasy? Another denial of a simple truth? Probably both.



No spin, thats what I read.
Deluded



Well I have done both, I have proven evolutionism to be wrong, mostly with links you guys provided me, in addition to none of them claiming evolutionism to be real, while explaing that a creator could have easily made diversity.
I take it you were addressing the next point and not the same one again. If not then the answer is very, very deluded.

If you were addressing the next point then what the hell does that answer have to do with asking you to make your own thread topic with the challenge you put out on a thread asking to explain diversity without using evolution?

It also shows that you indeed do read only what you want and not what is written. Shame on you.



posted on Jan, 7 2012 @ 12:28 PM
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The proof is readily available just about anywhere on the web or you could even call up the information and public relations dept. of the CDC...Center for Dicease Control. They deal with the Fact of Evolution on a daily basis as they work on Geneticly engineered syrums to protect us.
I know. Speciation and evolution in a virus is scary and real.

Do you realise what you just admitted in this reply? Time for some major deflection on your part me thinks.



posted on Jan, 7 2012 @ 12:56 PM
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Do you realise what you just admitted in this reply? Time for some major deflection on your part me thinks.
You must be suffering from selective amnesia. I said many times now I believe in evolutionism with viruses and some molecular organisms. It's NEVER been observed in humans. Your making assumptions that it can first of all happen in humans and there is no proof.



posted on Jan, 7 2012 @ 01:09 PM
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I know and you have been told that many times. Neither does going to work. What it does show is the truth to your lie and now blatant lie that humans cannot survive without modern medicine, inoculations, treated water and processed food, homes, heating.
Not adequatly anyhow. I sent you the link showing how many people die from unsafe water.




The very fact that you have avoided answering this point for the second time in a row shows you to be willing to lie and be decietful in order to persue your agenda.
And what is that.




Yet another dumb, uneducated and ignorant reply. Its called EVOLUTION. The ant eater has evovled to be that way. A specialist.
Really, and what are our physical attributes that prove we evolved?




What type of half arsed answer is that? A lion scavenges, a scavenger the hyena hunts. Animals take advantage of opportunities. Your lack of knowledge of the natural world is only overshadowed by your ignorance of evolution.
Just because you believe in something doesn't mean its correct.




Here you go. Off in a tangent yet again nothing to do with the comment your meant to be addressing. That is the only ability you seem to have to me. Defection
Does this mean you do throw trash out of your car?




Ha Ha. Again you have been proved wrong but havent got the moral fibre to admit it. Try covering over your mistakes with more lies and deciet.
Then give me an example of one animal that has made a bond with man, that was not inflicted by man.




They actually spend less time hunting than we do working so your pretext is wrong again. I would not swap places with them but they live happily in a way you contend humans cannot.
And what is there life expectancy.




You do love the anteater dont you. Again, no animal is catered for. For you to maintain this uneducated and moronic stance shows the dishonesty of your argument and your inability to understand the information presented to you or the world around you.
The anteater is a prime example of a species that you can say with no doubt, he is home, he bolongs here. Unlike us. Your swapping our ability to adapt with us not fitting in here. If you took away that one trait, we would be dead.




The anteaters food source has not changed, the anteater has no pressure to change. If his food sorce disapeared he is so specialised he would likely follow.
That has got to be the most morronic thing you have said so far. No man, he would not adapt.




Where do you get it that we lose our abilities? Another fantasy? Another denial of a simple truth? Probably both.
Well we had abilitys as monkeys to survive in the wild, why did we trade them?




I take it you were addressing the next point and not the same one again. If not then the answer is very, very deluded.

If you were addressing the next point then what the hell does that answer have to do with asking you to make your own thread topic with the challenge you put out on a thread asking to explain diversity without using evolution?

It also shows that you indeed do read only what you want and not what is written. Shame on you.
Darwin said it best, without proof of transgression, there is no evoltuion. I think he was right, there is no proof stil.



posted on Jan, 7 2012 @ 02:27 PM
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I leave for a few days and come back to itsthetooth continuing his dishonesty.


Darwin said it best, without proof of transgression, there is no evoltuion. I think he was right, there is no proof stil.

You're obviously paraphrasing here. Can you provide the actual quote from Darwin where he said this?



posted on Jan, 7 2012 @ 06:24 PM
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Do you realise what you just admitted in this reply? Time for some major deflection on your part me thinks.
You must be suffering from selective amnesia. I said many times now I believe in evolutionism with viruses and some molecular organisms. It's NEVER been observed in humans. Your making assumptions that it can first of all happen in humans and there is no proof.
Here you prove me correct again.

You wrote: I know. Speciation and evolution in a virus is scary and real.

If speciation and evolution happens in a virus that is evolution, end of. Observed and proved. Your idiotic standpoint that 'it has never been observed in humans' is not only wrong. Not only been disproved many times but is no different than how it happens in a virus.

You bankrupted your argument and no matter how much you try to wriggle out of it you've been busted.



posted on Jan, 7 2012 @ 06:52 PM
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