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"The sports facilities are the detention/relocation camps..." ?

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posted on Dec, 1 2011 @ 06:34 AM

Originally posted by 1825114
You should really look at this one. It seems... blatant

Autzen Stadium, Eugene, Oregon 44.058386,-123.068419

There's a prison right there next to the stadium, a big national guard building right there, juvenile court and district court, masonic lodge (if that means anything to you), a mental health facility (Lane County Behavioral Health‎), etc...

All of that in one small area as if it's all part of the same business, surrounded by a canal/moat, one side of which is bordered by a river with railroad along the other side, and more fenced fields...

The Community Corrections Center‎ is along those railroad tracks too -
44.054967,-123.094377 (Community Corrections Center, West 5th Avenue, Eugene, OR)

The Department of Youth Services (DYS) provides assessment, probation, training, counseling and detention services for all youth, ages 12-17 years old, referred by local law enforcement because of criminal behavior. It is the branch of Lane County government responsible for services to youth accused of law violations or judged delinquent by the juvenile court. DYS is funded from the Lane County general fund, along with some state and federal grant funding for new programs. The Juvenile Court is an arm of the Oregon state circuit court system and is housed at the department. DYS is staffed by groupworkers and counselors specializing in juvenile corrections. DYS staff are county employees and are all experienced in working with troubled youth. The department is organized into units: Administration, Detention Services, Intake Services, and Supervision Services. The Department of Youth Services is located in the Juvenile Justice Center building on the John Serbu Campus.

Place for the kids, place for the parents next door?

Originally posted by 1825114
Martial Law drill evacuates children to FEMA stadium

Sep 23, 2011

A Homeland Security drill in Denver federalizes the response to terrorism, including operation to relocate students under siege by a shooter to a FEMA-led Sports Stadium center for ultimate reunification with parents

Sep 24, 2011

Homeland Security terror drill in Denver revealed the ultimate goal was to relocate children and at risk populations to FEMA sport stadium relocation centers. Denver Police Victim Assistance Unit director Scott Snow admits in this clip.

A massive Terror Drill remarkably ignored by all but local media is now underway in Denver, Colorado.

More people should start looking for these and making pictures
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posted on Dec, 1 2011 @ 09:11 AM

Originally posted by 1825114

West Des Moines, Ia.—The U.S. Department of Homeland Security’s Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and the Iowa Homeland Security and Emergency Management Division (HSEMD) announced that a Disaster Recovery Center (DRC) will open in Pottawattamie County on Wednesday, October 26, 2011...


705 North 16th Street, Council Bluffs, Iowa 41.268711,-95.866935

Sports complex on one side, railroad depot on the other.

posted on Dec, 1 2011 @ 10:09 AM

Originally posted by 1825114
from the thread "Former Arapahoe County Sheriff arrested for exchanging meth for sex "

Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
Former Arapahoe County sheriff Patrick Sullivan is facing felony charges for allegedly using and distributing methamphetamine in exchange for sex, according to current Sheriff Grayson Robinson.

The one-time national Sheriff of the Year made his first court appearance Wednesday morning.

He's being held in the jail that bears his name, the "Patrick J. Sullivan, Jr. Detention Facility."

The place he's being held is at 39.581543,-104.832562

It's connected to a sports complex, the Denver Broncos Headquarters, literally sharing the parking lot and football fields- it all looks like it's part of the same complex, with more fenced fields across the street, the arapahoe community park.
There's an airport right there too. Courthouse, sheriffs, coroner, all right there.

It might be time for me to go to bed

posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 02:25 PM
more please

"Occupy Raids are Secret Trial Runs For Martial Law By DHS "

Homeland security buses = creepy

posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 06:57 AM
I was always pretty creeped out by this job listing/description, more-so now that the "national defense act" has gone through and the military is openly tasked with law enforcement duties...

Internment / Resettlement Specialist

Internment/Resettlement (I/R) Specialists in the Army are primarily responsible for day-to-day operations in a military confinement/correctional facility or detention/internment facility. I/R Specialists provide rehabilitative, health, welfare, and security to U.S. military prisoners within a confinement or correctional facility; conduct inspections; prepare written reports; and coordinate activities of prisoners/internees and staff personnel.

Some of your duties as an Internment/Resettlement Specialist may include:

- Assist with the supervision and management of confinement and detention operations
- Provide external security to confinement/corrections facilities or detention/internment facilities
- Provide counseling and guidance to individual prisoners within a rehabilitative program
- Prepare or review reports and records of prisoners/internees and programs


Job training for an Internment/Resettlement Specialist requires nine weeks of Basic Training, where you'll learn basic Soldiering skills, and eight weeks of Advanced Individual Training. Part of this time is spent in the classroom and part in a field environment. Some of the skills you'll learn are:

- Military laws and jurisdictions
- Level of Force Procedures
- Unarmed Self-Defense Techniques
- Police Deviance and Ethics Procedures
- Interpersonal Communications Skills
- Close confinement operations
- Search and restraint procedures
- Use of firearms
- Custody and control procedures

Helpful Skills

Helpful attributes include:

- An ability to think and react quickly
- An ability to remain calm in stressful situations
- An interest in law enforcement and crime prevention
- Being physically fit

Advanced Responsibilities

Advanced level Internment/Resettlement Specialist provides guidance, supervises and trains other Soldiers within the same discipline. As an advanced level I/R Specialist, you may be involved in:

- Supervise and establish all administrative, logistical and food support operations, confinement/correctional, custodial, treatment, and rehabilitative activities
- Responsible for all personnel working in the confinement/correctional facility, including security, logistical, and administrative management of the prisoner/internee population
- Provide command and control, staff planning, administration/logistical services, and custody/control for the operation of an Enemy Prisoner of War/Civilian Internee (EPW/CI) camp
- Provide command and control, staff planning, administration/logistical services, and custody/control for the operation of detention facility or the operation of a displaced civilian (DC) resettlement facility

Related Civilian Jobs

The skills you'll learn as an Internment/Resettlement Specialist will help prepare you for a future with federal, state, county or city law enforcement agencies or the federal penal system. You might also be able to pursue a career as a security guard with industrial firms, airports or other businesses and institutions.

How are we supposed to feel about more people taking these jobs when we're being told that they're going to be acting as police wherever they want/are told?
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posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 11:16 AM
two posts from another thread; "My experience inside a FEMA " Residential Relocation Center" ( concentration camp )"

Originally posted by Fromabove
The video I posted is about one of their correctional facilities. I can't seem to find one on the T. Don Residential facility as shown in Jesse Ventura's program "Conspiracy Theory".

Oops... I did find this one. One of the prisoners, a Mom with children who are also prisoners of the state wears the blue.

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That facility is at 30.564903,-97.419677

railroad out front, fenced baseball diamonds on either side

Originally posted by Fromabove
here is CCA, the correction facilities to be used by FEMA. Notice the inmates wearing the blue and the yellow shirts. Notice the re education efforts. Notice that there are no prisoners seen that wear red prison shirts.

A few different prison/jail facilities come up when you put in "ca correctional health care services," but this one sticks out to me...
It's a pretty huge prison, and right up the road (north, 35.983875,-120.118142) are the fenced fields, just about in the middle of nowhere

edit; just realized CCA stands for Corrections Corporation of America, which is a gross name
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posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 09:43 PM
Don't like infowars links? Cry about it to yourself, nobody cares if you're fixated on whether they make money or not ...or just wait a few days/weeks/months for someplace else to publish this exact same info under a differnt headline and softer terminology, and then act like it's credible...

FEMA Camps Go Live; Ron Paul Fights Newt for Iowa & More: Infowars Nightly News

December 6, 2011

In tonight’s Tuesday, December 6, 2011 edition of the Infowars Nightly News, Alex takes on breaking news leaked from an insider about Halliburton subsidiary KBR. The documents reveal current on-going operations to staff the FEMA and U.S. Army camps it runs around the United States. According to our info, KBR is contracting services for temporary fencing and barricades, laundry and medical services, power generation, refuse collection, catering and other services required for temporary “emergency environment” camps located in five regions of the United States. Disturbingly, this comes immediately after the Senate passed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), including the controversial amendment to the bill which allows the indefinite detention of American citizens. All this at a time which economic conditions and mass demonstrations sweep the country and threaten potential unrest. Meanwhile, focus has fallen on President Obama’s real reason for threatening to veto the NDAA legislation– experts say it would hold the U.S. to the Geneva Convention and disrupt a tradition of executive fiat wherein presidents have long declared their own right to hold Americans.

Compare that to the things that've been posted these past few pages...
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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 10:30 AM

a document originating from Halliburton subsidiary KBR that provides details on a push to outfit FEMA and U.S. Army camps around the United States. Entitled “Project Overview and Anticipated Project Requirements,” the document describes services KBR is looking to farm out to subcontractors. The document was passed on to us by a state government employee who wishes to remain anonymous for obvious reasons.

that document...

Government, Defense & Infrastructure

Page 1 of 4
Project Overview and Anticipated Project Requirements

Project Overview:
KBR is establishing a National Quick Response Team for our current Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (USACE) work, and for anticipated future contracts. Upon completion of evaluation, certain subcontractors may be invited to establish a Master Services Agreement (MSA) with pre-established lease rates and terms and conditions.
The Continental US will be broken up into five regions as indicated in the map below...

Services will be required in each State within each region.

Anticipated Project Requirements:
Establish services listed below within 72 hours for initial set-up and respond within 24 hours for incremental services. This is a CONTINGENCY PROJECT and it should be stressed that lead times will be short with critical requirements due to the nature of emergency responses. Subcontractors must be flexible and able to handle multiple, shifting priorities in an emergency environment. Supply lines needed must be short but not necessarily pre-positioned.

The personnel on site to be covered by these services will depend on the size and scope of the recovery effort, but for estimating purposes the camp will range in size from 301 to 2,000 persons for up to 30 days in length.

- The offeror will not have to submit a proposal for each service in each state.

- Please identify which state and/or region your company can perform the requested services. The descriptions of the services are for reference only. Any and all specific requirements will be forthcoming with a detailed Statement(s) of Work in an RFP solicitation.

- Catering Services
This service is open to companies that wish to provide food preparation services only, and to companies that wish to provide the food supplies in addition to food preparation services. Subcontractor shall provide food and food preparation services capable of providing meals per feeding sufficient to meet the prime contractor occupancy levels. All meals may be prepared in accordance with the Army 14 Day Menu program (or equivalent like NIFC Mobile Food Services contract ( and may be enhanced based on individual
chef specialties and skills.

- Temporary Fencing and Barricades
Subcontractor will mobilize, transport, erect, install and demobilize temporary fencing,
barricades, and associated equipment according to federal, state and local laws, codes and manufacturer installation instructions. The Subcontractor shall be able to mobilize and deploy key personnel(s) within four (4) hours of NTP to meet with KBR Site Manager at the Responder Support Camp (RSC) site in order to finalize the site design plan and acquire site specific design requirements and layout.
Number of linear footage:
Approximately 2,300LF for a 301 person camp after 36 hours of NTP
Approximately 3,600LF for 1,000 person camp after 72 hours of NTP

- Hand Washing Stations
Subcontractor(s) shall provide all labor, management, supervision, transportation, tools,
material, equipment, fees, and incidentals to provide portable, self-contained hand-washing stations for temporary camps for emergency First Responders in accordance with OSHA CFR 29 1910 and additional State and Local regulations. Major operations within this function include transporting hand-washing stations for initial placement around camp and repair or replacement, if necessary.

- Laundry Services
Subcontractor shall provide laundry services with no more than a twenty-four turnaround time (time from customer drop-off to customer pick-up). The structure can be a tent, fabric shade structure or container of the adequate size to receive dirty laundry and issue clean laundry from separate issue and receive desk. The subcontractor will perform the laundry service at their offsite facility. The facility must be adequate size to meet the services turnaround requirement. The facility shall have equipment capable of cleaning medical and Petroleum-Contaminated clothing. The subcontractor shall perform washing, drying and folding of laundry.

- Medical Services
The subcontractor will provide a medical unit(s) capable of handling all medical emergencies in accordance with American Heart Association, Advanced Cardiac Life Support (ACLS) at a minimum. The subcontractor shall have the capability to provide medical support during the phase-in of a camp for 100 personnel within 36 hours of notification. The subcontractor must be ready to provide support for full camp occupancy no later than 72 hours after notification. The medical Unit shall be equipped to provide basic care for minor illness and injury; this will include
dispensing of common over the counter medications. Medical personnel shall provide medical services to FEMA first responders and contractor employees 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

- Office Trailers / Administration Area
Subcontractor will mobilize, transport, install and demobilize Office Trailers and associated equipment according to federal, state and local laws, and manufacture installation instructions. The Subcontractor shall ensure flooring, lighting, HVAC and other associated equipment are of good operable condition and function properly in accordance with specified and industry standards The Subcontractor will be capable of transporting, setup and have the office operational within 36 hours from NTP.

- Potable Water
Subcontractor will perform, Potable Water Collection, Transportation and Distribution Services according to federal, state and local laws. Major operations within this function include providing Potable Water to abolition units holding tanks, Shower units Holding Tanks. The Subcontractor shall be available 24 hours per day for emergency Potable Water request. Subcontractor shall respond within two (2) hours to emergency water request.

- Power Generation, Fuel Delivery / Supply & Electrical Distribution
Subcontractor shall have the capability to provide power generation, fuel delivery / supply and electrical distribution for a camp sized for 2000 personnel capacity. Major operations within this function include providing electrical distribution to a centralized location within site premises for the purpose of providing an electrical connection point for other subcontractors to terminate their main distribution cables.

- Refuse Collection
Subcontractor will collect, transport, and dispose of solid waste in accordance with EPA 40 CFR 243 and additional State and Local regulations. Major operations within this function include waste container management and maintenance, emptying of waste containers and disposal of collected refuse in a certified landfill. Additional the subcontractor will support a recycling program with a goal to recycle 35% of waste generated from the RSC operations.

- Shower and Toilet Units
Subcontractor shall provide Shower and Toilet units, with HVAC/ECU and associated
wastewater collection tanks and potable water holding tanks and equipment associated such as pumps and piping. All water supply equipment shall be rated for potable water supply in accordance with ANSI/NSF 42, 53 and 61standards and applicable EPA, state and local standards and requirements. Water sampling and testing will be accomplished by others.

-Tentage, Flooring, Electrical & HVAC/ECU
Subcontractor will mobilize, transport, erect, install and demobilize tentage, and HVAC/ECU and associated equipment. Major operations within this function include providing flooring, pole or clear span tentage, HVAC/ECU, electrical distribution within tents, ceiling lighting, exit signs, and fire extinguishers/smoke alarms.

- Waste Water Removal
Subcontractor will perform, Waste Water Collection, Transportation and Distribution Services according to federal, state and local laws. Major operations within this function include removing Waste Water to toilet units holding tanks, shower units holding tanks. The Subcontractor shall be available 24 hours per day for emergency Waste Water Removal request. Subcontractor shall respond within two (1) hour to emergency request.

Bob Siefert at

posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 03:07 AM
reply to post by Sek82

Say what you mean. Agent Smith reporting for duty.

Your not smart enough to answer the questions....."It's paranoia, run for the hills"

That will almost make Failbook......Nice.

posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 01:35 PM
going back to this post about the prison/stadium setup in trenton, new jersey...

Originally posted by 1825114

copy/paste these coordinates... 40.20469,-74.760999 ...on google maps

That's Trenton Thunder Stadium, in Trenton, NJ. To the left of the stadium, along the river, there are four white-roofed buildings.
The smallest one closest to the stadium, is listed as "State of New Jersey department of health - chris christie - judiciary," and there's at least one listed Crisis/Screening Center in the complex...

The first of the three weird shaped buildings is listed on google maps as "The State of New Jersey Information Technology office"

Who We Are
The New Jersey Office of GIS (OGIS) was formally established by Executive Order #122 on January 30, 2001, but has been fully functioning within New Jersey's Office of Information Technology since September 1999.

The mission of the Office of GIS is to promote the use of GIS technology among state agencies and to provide statewide leadership in the development of New Jersey's spatial data infrastructure.

The next building is "NJ Dept of Education"

And the next one isn't listed as this now, but was the last time I looked, and an orange marker popped up in front of it when I searched for the prison (which got a purple marker) but it didn't provide any info this time... The New Jersey State Prison.
The actual state prison itself is literally right up the road, and I'm assuming this is just an administrative building, but I have a hard time not thinking there's more to it than that.

New Jersey State Prison, home of New Jersey's death row. The prison towers over residences. It is located near the city's Trenton Thunder baseball stadium and much of the traffic passes by. To make things look a little better, a beautiful mural of baseball spectators was painted on the side. Razor wire glows in the lights overhead.

Well now the department of education IS going to start being involved in sussing out terror suspects...
White House Unveiling Plans on Getting Schools, Community Boards and Leaders (Churches) to "Spy for Homegrown Terrorist"

...small portion of NPR article linked:

The latest offering, which is expected to be released Thursday afternoon, is not exhaustive, but it provides a better idea of what the administration has in mind. The plan envisions a fusion of local partners — schools, community boards and leaders — with both local and federal law enforcement and other agencies. Many of these new partners, like the Department of Education, have never participated in national security issues before.

That's why the Obama administration is so eager to get into the fight local partners who are better positioned to pick up on these subtle cues.

Wiktorowicz said the new strategy addresses those issues. A complete training review and specific training standards are expected to be in place by spring. The Department of Homeland Security will review the training and evaluate experts to weed out any lurking anti-Muslim bias. The idea is to inject some quality control into the training process. Wiktorowicz said the new program will focus on behavior, not religion or appearances.

"There are potential behavioral signals," he said. "For example, has someone in the community seen them watching violent extremist videos? Are they publicly coming out in defense of Osama bin Laden? Are they talking about the kuffar [unbelievers]? That's not enough alone, but if that is in a combination of other things, that's what we are looking for."


Originally posted by maybehelpful
New Jersey State Prison, formerly Trenton State Prison

Originally posted by 1825114
copy/paste these coordinates... 40.20469,-74.760999 ...on google maps

There are traintracks right near by, and Fort Dix isn't too long of a drive away

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posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 06:07 AM
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Interesting, you mention the State Defense Force... Well, these are guard units that do not fall under federal authority. There goes the conspiracy.

posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 04:02 AM
Did you even read anything on that page? Please explain exactly what you think you've disproved and how...

Huntsville, Alabama
US Marine Corps Reserve Training, with a good amount of military vehicles inside of a sports complex, right next to a stadium, with a railroad a block to the east.
Right across Airport road to the south is the national guard armory, inside of another sports complex/surrounded by fenced fields.

Mobile, Alabama
National Guard inside of a sports complex, about a block away from a railroad which goes on past (and is connected to) Ladd Memorial Stadium and then the prison and jail.
The other national guard building in town is at 30.674894,-88.114858
It shares the parking lot of a huge hotel with a US Air Force Reserve Recruiter, and the drive to the jail and prison is pretty much a straight line.

Thanks for the link, this is making searches a lot easier

posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 04:27 AM
reply to post by 1825114

I proved that unless the governor declares martial law, the state defense force can do nothing. Therefore, the whole FEMA camp theory, being FEDERAL holds no water.

posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 04:28 AM

I proved that unless the governor declares martial law, the state defense force can do nothing.
Therefore, the whole FEMA camp theory, being FEDERAL holds no water.

I never said they're all "FEMA camps," and I never said anything about them being federalized. And you never said anything about governors or martial law. You proved absolutely nothing and you seem pretty crazy to me.


all state National Guard units can be federalized under the National Defense Act of 1933 with the creation of the National Guard of the United States


Fort Wayne, Indiana
Army National Guard connected to a sports complex/highschool stadium, right next to an airfield.

There are more in indiana that are connected to/next to/nearby sports facilities, but I'm done for now...
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posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 04:58 AM
reply to post by 1825114

Really, I thought this thread was about how the US Government will round up the people and put them in detention camps made out of stadiums.

Also, from the link:
State defense forces are distinct from their state's National Guard in that they cannot become federal entities (all state National Guard units can be federalized under the National Defense Act of 1933 with the creation of the National Guard of the United States.[2] The federal government recognizes state defense forces under 32 U.S.C. § 109 which provides that state defense forces as a whole may not be called, ordered, or drafted into the armed forces of the United States, thus preserving their separation from the National Guard.

And you say I am the one not reading... And insulting me, what gives? By the way, I see you buy into the mindless conspiracy that the Army needs prison guards for some evil purpose. Maybe if they had properly trained people in this capacity there would have been no Abu Grhaib incident.

Perhaps all these amories are near to baseball fields because they are both on PUBLIC LAND. The park district zoned land for a recreational facility, which happened to be near to another government facility. In my home town, the park district with the football and baseball fields, and the public pool, is near to City Hall, therefore near to the Police Station. OH NO, THE POLICE ARE GOING TO DETAIN EVERYONE AND MAKE THEM DEFICATE IN THE EMPTY POOL!
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posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 05:34 AM

Originally posted by steppenwolf86

I thought this thread was about how the US Government will round up the people and put them in detention camps made out of stadiums.

It is. And it HAS already happened. Do you think all those people wanted to stay crammed in the superdome after hurricane katrina and/or lost in the prison system? What happens when the disaster is manmade/economic?

Doesn't take much to turn an 'emergency center' into a detention center, and It's been conclusively proven that many sports facilities ARE and HAVE BEEN the emergency centers.

Keep insinuating that I'm wrong and a conspiracy lunatic... Keep putting words in my mouth and then pretending to prove those words wrong, while you're the one that's wrong, the one being ignorant, and the one imagining things...

You're only helping my case

posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 05:48 AM
reply to post by 1825114

Where am I wrong. Other than the disaster that was Katrina and the screw ups in the aftermath, when have they been used in the past. I really do not see why the government would round us all up, and I do not believe our own troops would obey the orders.

posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 06:05 AM
Have you even tried looking through the rest of the thread?

Originally posted by 1825114
Qualcomm Stadium also has a railway through their parking lot 32.781128,-117.119601
I understand what public transportation is, but the russian/european railways of last century had other purposes as well.

And it has been used as a disaster recovery/relocation facility in the past.

I don't have time to look around for correctional facilities/military outposts in such a heavily populated area right now, but there are these videos of some guys talking about their negative experiences using the stadium as a relocation camp when they were evacuated for wildfires.
They get re-relocated to del mar fairgrounds ( 32.97724,-117.261114 ) which is a huge fenced area containing fenced racetracks and a bunch of housing units(?) with water ways/ocean on 2/3 sides and railroad in back...

language warning

Emergency evacuations? What the media won't tell you!

Imagine the span of 8 days you are surrounded by fire, evacuated from a place you call home and placed in a shelter (Qualcomm Stadium) where you are afraid, disoriented but at least feel safe from the fires and are being fed. Then you find out -- only 3-4 days later (still in shock and disbelief from losing your home) that you will actually be booted out of Qualcomm Stadium so the football game can take place on Sunday (it is our understanding that the head of the NFL called Mayor Sanders and told him the game would take place in San Diego and relocating it to Houston was NOT an option -- we do not know if Sanders gave any push back to this demand).

Now you are shuttled off to the Del Mar Fairgrounds for shelter...only to be booted out of there within a couple of days. The evacuees were given around 24 hours notice to get out of Del Mar fairgrounds after barely just arriving. When one of our reporters asked an American Red Cross worker where the evacuees would go next she stated she did not know but they would "probably be taken to other shelters or something".

"Other shelters or something" ? This is happening in less than 24 hours and if the Red Cross does not know who does? This worker was also asked what items the evacuees needed at this time. Her response was "I don't know you would have to go back and ask them" . When the reporter went back to ask them there were bold signs stating "Donations at this location were no longer needed". She went up to the evacuees and asked if this was true.

Many told her, in fact, it was not as they needed clothes, strollers, baby items...they were rattling off lists of things needed and stated the signs were put up because they were making them leave the next day at 12:30PM so they did not want to have to deal with excess donations. These items that were donated and still there would be hauled off by Goodwill the next day.

It is a shame when people give freely, only to find their donations are being abused by the actual organizations who solicited the help in the first place. When did we start treating people like cattle to be shuttled off to one uncaring place after another? Where was the media once the clowns and entertainment went away and only the ugly truth of the brutal impacting events lay bare for all to see.

Is it not surprising that there was much frustration among evacuees regarding the American Red Cross and FEMA. This video series only shares the raw feelings and beliefs of San Diego County Fire evacuees as recorded by the reporters. Although it is believed among most of the evacuees that, once again, the Red Cross and FEMA dropped the ball during a National Disaster there were some words of praise given to the everyday volunteers who had not yet become desensitized by the system. It is our belief that many join such organizations to help their fellow man and they volunteer because they have a true calling to help others. However, like many organizations, the bureaucracy and desensitization of those at the top impede the good intentions of the volunteers at the bottom.
BILOXI, Miss. -- Even in the mind-numbing heat that defines summers in Mississippi, boys and girls still eagerly take to the field to play America's pastime. A softball field at the Rudy Moran Sports Complex in D'Iberville, named in honor of a former county employee, will be open for business within a week and local high school softball teams can hardly wait.

The softball field was used as an emergency temporary housing site for nearly 40 families after Katrina. Two years later, the trailers are gone and teams are gearing up to play again...

...The parks and recreation director receives regular help from Jerry Harper, a FEMA contractor monitor...

..."We understand housing people is more important than sports. And all of our leagues have been great about working with each other knowing FEMA trailers were still out here,"...

Eight of the 12 closed parks that temporarily housed more than 600 families across the Gulf Coast have been remediated and returned to their local communities.

These are not the only examples that have been posted. i don't know why I'm even responding to you, its not like you're actually going to read any of it...
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posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 06:07 AM
reply to post by 1825114

So if the people have no where else to go, what is the issue you have with providing temporary care and shelter...

posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 04:06 PM
^I won't be feeding this troll anymore. "military and police forces are only ever here to do good, it's impossible for them to hurt their own people or for anything they do to be construed as negative, because that just wouldn't be nice"

from a thread;
Strange Military Activity Boston,MA......And My Gut Feeling?
It's about secretive military exercises and literal, real, 'black helicopters' landing throughout downtown boston and scaring the crap out of/confusing people...

posting here to remind myself to look into this stuff when I've got more time... copy/paste the following coordinates ;

national guard connected to baseball fields, bordered by a railroad

national guard next to baseball fields, a block away in a straight line down a road to another railroad

Large army national guard, connected to one baseball field, and a block away from a large sports complex, bordered by railroad

national guard with sports complex on one side, railroad on the other


I don't have time right now to look for the prisons (correctional facilities, CCAs, jails) or courthouses and other law enforcement outfits... but you can bet they're in close proximity to those parks or along the railroad

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