reply to post by Dasher
Would anyone say the law is above grace or that grace is above the law? No. They are intertwined on a level that most humans are unable to decipher.
But with wisdom, we can see how much our bodies, individually, and within familial structures, reflect the image of God.
We pretty much think alike..
You cant just obviate the need for order, or pretend that order doesnt also derive its existence from God.
To me, law is the most basic idea when it comes to a man(or womans) - created beings, with a finite mind - and their relationship with God. This is
the main reason i reject perenially philosophy found in gnosticism, buddhism, hinduism, etc, in which one defines ones own law, based on his own
"knowledge" of self.
This to me is arrogant and presumptuous. Fortunately, God did make a separation on earth; between the Hebrews and everyone else. Some consider this to
be inane! What God would love one people more then another!? Thats no true God! Well, that is just one pespective.
From another perspective, Gods making a "differentiation", could be apart of the whole essence and purpose in creation; for man (all men, Jew or
gentuile, being completely equal. His selection of the "Jew" is merely to make a philosophical point, that differentiation is apart of the fabric of
this worlds existence, and therefore of the greatest importance for this world. We just cant forget WHY this world exists, and for Whom it exists,
hence the philosophical importance the Bible puts on MEMORY -ie; the generations. The entire Torah is a recounting of the PAST. Some think the present
is the only thing of importance. The bible on the other hand emphasizes memory of the past, which symbolicaly understood, means remembering from
whence we came, and thus understanding WHY WE ARE IN THIS WORLD) an emanation of His own ineffable "self", to differentiate
one thing from
another, and therefore imitate, or incarnate, Gods own action of creation, which requires a contraction of his infinite being into creating a
reality. He chose just one form of expression, albeit, in an infinite number of ways.
In this sense, Man is always far from God, so if God IS TRULY God, God could logically do either or; he could abstain from mankind, and so accord with
the assumption of pagan theology: that he doesnt "care" or interfere with this world, or God could be actively involved in his creation ie; Hebraic
Judeo-Christian theology, a God actively involved within his creation, in the mystery of Time, Space and Order.
See?? Everyone has a decision to make. We have Free Will. We can choose whatever path we want. We can become antinomian, and believe as some people
do, and believe all concept of law is irrelevant. Existence is ultimately impersonal
, and so no God relates with his creation. Rather, it is us
coming to know ourselves, and in doing so, come to a complete awareness of God.
I think its a combination of both. I think God contacts us, and we contact God; a mutual relationship between creator and created.
31-8-2011 by dontreally because: (no reason given)