War declared on Tea Party

reply to post by Kitilani

So...the TEA party is not a hive mind because it is stupid to even suggest such a thing about so many people but everyone on the "left" is of one exact mind?

a priceless comment everyone in the teaparty are racist redkneck terrorist (insaert the derogatory term for teaparty here.

as so often as you have used.

if the shoe fits wear it and home is where the brain is because heart doesnt pay the mortgage.

reply to post by Kitilani


Well, for one, I can't leave. The US government requires that I get a passport to leave the country. I am not allowed to leave without the permission of the US government.

For two, I don't want to leave, I want to have the country that was promised to me in my US History class. You know, the one that holds the individual above the group, the one that promises free speech, free religion, a humble foreign policy, equal rights, a pursuit of happiness. That country no longer exist but I feel like it is worth fighting for.

I stay because I think the United States was really a great place at one point and is worth the fight. Does that answer your question?

I believe in the constitutional republic we were, not the semi-socialist democracy we have become. I stay because I want my children to have a better shot at life than I have had and a less tyrannical government than exist today. America, love it or leave it huh? I wonder where we would be if Thomas Jefferson, George Washington or James Madison had that opinion.

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by neo96

 

Neo, if they really wanted war with us, they'd let the UN do all the fighting!

Otherwise the lot of them would have to find a way to get over their pathological fear of guns (and other nasty things that just make them feel bad).

reply to post by beezzer


Oh I am sure the rest of us will pay for this war too.
I don't mind the Tea Party but I really wish they were a bit better at math.

Originally posted by Kitilani

Originally posted by Janky Red

Originally posted by beezzer
A scruffy little grass-roots movement

Don't cha know

A movement taken up and promoted by the LARGEST MSM station in the entire country.

Bank rolled in large part, by some of the wealthiest men in America too...

Orwell, come in Orwell

That is not fair. The TEA party is every day average Amuricans. They are not sponsored by Koch or FOX. It is just a wild coincidence that they all happen to fight for the same things that benefit corporations over people.

It just blows your mind doesn't it that a majority of people watching and listening to the news in this country don't share the same political views as you have.

But remember, the percentage of people calling themselves "liberals" in the U.S is historically only around 20%.

Now you (possibly) understand ...

In following many Tea Party threads they all seem to run the following playbook from the other side :

a) Shout "The Tea Party is Racist!" When asked for proof state "I don't need proof its clearly obvious!" or "I saw a sign at a protest!"

b) Shout "The Tea Party Will Eliminate the Poor!" It is usually at this point that a Tea Party member will agree (because their policies will eliminate the class) so jump on them and shout - see everyone he wants to kill the poor!!! Twisting words is an effective strategy.

c) Shout "The Tea Party Supports their Corporate Masters!" Purchase one of our Tea Party Paid for By Koch Brothers placards from any of our affiliates included Genentech, Amazon, Adobe, Starbucks, Sun Microsystems, Apple, Yahoo, Google, Viacom, Walt Disney, IBM, Metlife, Cisco, General Electric, Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, Boeing, Verizon, Exelon, Aetna, Intel, Raytheon, Merck, Nike, Anneuser-Busch, Pfizer, AT&T, or Deloitte & Touche. Any Soros funded tax-exempt foundation will do as well. Just keep repeating "Corporate, Corporate, Corporate" to make it seem like you have no connection to any corporation and that corporations are evil even though you plan your life around them and worship them.

d) If all else fails use plenty of profanity to intimidate the other side, use sexually demeaning references, don't be afraid to be racist if necessary - no 'true' person of color would ever disagree with Obama! If debating a woman call her stupid and then mention and mock Sarah Palin to intimate that the Tea Party is run by Sarah Palin. Be vile, the more vile the better!

e) Finally, play the victim. After harassing the other side they will be rude back to you. This is perfect. Start filming and recording, play the victim and get out of there before you get hurt. Upload to YouTube and then report them to the See Something, Say Something campaign website. We'll take it from there...in time...

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Kitilani

 

So...the TEA party is not a hive mind because it is stupid to even suggest such a thing about so many people but everyone on the "left" is of one exact mind?

a priceless comment everyone in the teaparty are racist redkneck terrorist (insaert the derogatory term for teaparty here.

as so often as you have used.

if the shoe fits wear it and home is where the brain is because heart doesnt pay the mortgage.

Um....what are you talking about? I did not say that here. I have never said that anywhere. Why would you quote me and then lie about what you quoted? That seems mildly touched. I am sorry you have no real response so instead you make up things to be angry with me personally for. Classy touch.

I am starting to wonder if you can read what you quote.

Originally posted by centurion1211

It just blows your mind doesn't it that a majority of people watching and listening to the news in this country don't share the same political views as you have.

No. Not really. What am I supposed to be impressed by? You ability to count sheep?

But remember, the percentage of people calling themselves "liberals" in the U.S is historically only around 20%.

Now you (possibly) understand ...

If only you did though.

Hey guys. Thanks for playing quote kitti then just rant about things she does not ever actually write. You both win. Again.

Originally posted by kellynap43
reply to post by Kitilani

 

Yes they are of the exact mind. I will prove it. This is just one example. If you want more, I can find hundreds.

"As Many As 95% African Americans Voted for Obama"
dalje.com...

All "liberals" are African American?

When did that happen?

I can play this too. 100% of self identified TEA party members plan to vote for a Republican.

You go be proud what you did comparing black people to all liberals that. That was cute.

Anyone in this thread that can communicate? Seem like nothing but angry grunts. I guess that is that "evil" I am so afraid of? Oh no, the cavemen are upset. Be scared.

Originally posted by Kitilani

If only you did though.

Hey guys. Thanks for playing quote kitti then just rant about things she does not ever actually write. You both win. Again.

So, what do you call someone who still will not understand even when shown the facts?

gallup poll data

Thus far in 2009, 40% of Americans interviewed in national Gallup Poll surveys describe their political views as conservative, 35% as moderate, and 21% as liberal. This represents a slight increase for conservatism in the U.S. since 2008, returning it to a level last seen in 2004. The 21% calling themselves liberal is in line with findings throughout this decade, but is up from the 1990s.

So-called progressives (shouldn't they be called "permissives" instead?) got a huge break in 2008, mostly because a ton of people let "guilt", and/or the feeling that the "time was right" make their election choice for them. Some even believed they were voting for the Morgan Freeman presidential character from several movies. Alas, all they basically got was Carter II, and a country far worse off after almost 3 years than when this administration took over.

Originally posted by Kitilani
That is not fair. The TEA party is every day average Amuricans. They are not sponsored by Koch or FOX. It is just a wild coincidence that they all happen to fight for the same things that benefit corporations over people.

Kitilani, can you cite what those 'things' are and how the Democrats have done the opposite? All I see from the current administration is a massive joining together of government and corporate interests especially with Goldman Sachs and General Electric.

I can predict you'll claim that all the TP can do is aim for lower corporate taxes and if so then you have no clue what you are talking about. I just did a search on your posts you seem absolutely obsessed with attacking the TP and go on every thread with it in the title claiming racism, corporate fascism, and the like. Troll much?

reply to post by beezzer


Hi Beez. just so you know, a moment before reading your post, I read a new post about the war on the tea party from an anti tea party perspective. The thread was deleted. Yours was the next one I came upon.

We are at war. A scruffy little grass-roots movement, just wanting smaller government and a return to personal responsibility.

You and many others may be scruffy and grass roots but the big time funders are not. You already know this don't you?

We don't want big government. We don't need program after program after program. Personal responsibility. To yourself, to your family.

Here you offer a tantalizing thought. Personal responsibility. How farccan personal responsibility extend? Self. Family. Where do you draw the line here? Should we have responsibility to our extended families? How about our next door neighbors? What about our neighborhoods. Where does personal responsibility stop being personal responsibility and begin being big government? I think big government starts becoming big government when we relinquish our responsibility which starts with ourselves and extends outward.

An analogy I like to use is this; imagine a person with a broken leg.

The Tea Party would like to see the person go to physical therapy, use crutches, a cane, then walk on their own. It'd be painful. But the patient would learn to walk again, and become self-reliant.

I believe this to be a true understanding of scruffy grass roots folk in the tea party. I also believe this to be true of most Americans. I would go so far as to say that this might easily be true of most people in the world, don't you think?

The progressives want to give the person a wheelchair (bought by someone else). They don't want the person to go through the painful process of rehabilitation. They want that person to stay in the wheelchair until the legs have atrophied to a point where they CAN'T leave the wheelchair. They want that person to be dependent. They want that person to NEED them.

BEEZER BEEZER BEEZER....... Can you really see them this way? Can you really know so little of scruffy grass roots progressives as to believe they are so different from you and other Americans? I think you do yourself a great disservice in your political development as long as you hold to such simplistic analogies.

( sorry this reply comes so long after your op. I had a 6 hour road trip come up between starting and ending my reply. )

reply to post by Kitilani


Sounds like your are implying I said 100% or said ALL when I did not. Again, you, liberal, not using facts. But trying to spin statements to your liking.

This refers back to the statement of hive mind or exact mind thinking. I'm not sure if I can find a better example of hive mind thinking or exact mind, providing example. You can draw your own conclusions. Of course you will say what you want even with out facts. Its by total coincidence that they are liberal.

My suggestions are, if you don't want the Tea Party to have such a bad name...

Stop making it an umbrella for racists to hide under. You don't like the racist labels then the so called leaders of the movement ought to step forward and loudly declare that racism will not be tolerated, stop with the little tee-hees you think no one else is smart enough to grasp. Of course this won't happen because like it or not a lot of white americans were disgusted when a black man took office and every politician knows not to isolate your base, right?

You don't want social programs, welfare etc? Tell your republican congress to stop breaking the backs of the middle and lower classes. Tell them to pass higher corporate taxes and make it illegal to export jobs, or tax the practice to hell. Make them bring our jobs home or shut-up about entitlement. You're goddamn right people in America are entitled to eat and have a roof over their heads and be warm in the winter.

reply to post by beezzer


My opinion is that all politicians have noble ideas that they develope either before or on the road to the white house/congress. But once they get into the game they are told how it really is by the people in the know, and they realize they can't do any of the sh*t they promised and end up looking like self serving liars when they reneg on what they promised the people.

Like how these tea party members are in the new apostalic reformation with these grand ideas of bringing the U.S.A. back to God and having this "grand 'ol revival" of bringing the nation back to its holy roots. In the end however, this cannot happen. Not without a HUGE religious purge of all the peoples in this country who are pagan/atheist/agnostic/muslim/hindu/wicca/buddhist etc. and that isn't going to happen so its all a crock of sh*t. Those days have come and gone and the days of america serving Jesus are over. There will be a remnant of a remnant of us left as the rest of the nation is swallowed whole by pornography,greed,avarice and selfism. The days of Noah, returned.

reply to post by pirhanna


FYI Bill Clinton already reformed welfare. It is now harder to get and they often make you get some menial job

Originally posted by seagull
reply to post by pirhanna

 

Oh, bull...

My local tea party groups run the gamut from liberal 60's hippies to right of Rush Limbaugh. Whites, Blacks, Oriental, Christians, Jews, Buddhists. Etc...etc...

To try and portray them as some grouping of neo christian rednecks, or whatever, is a fallicy bordering on comedy.

1. Washington State is hardly representative of most of the country
2. I'm calling bs on that group of people being the constituents of the tea party.
3. All of the tea party leaders are ultra far right religious kooks. Therefor the logical conclusion is that the tea party is heavily constructed of the same mindset.
4. Let it be known that you said redneck, not I, though since you brought it up...
5. Really, liberal hippies as the constituents of the tea party? I didn't know Bachman was truly representing sex drugs and rock n roll. The whole religious nut thing is just a ploy to push for liberal social legislation!!

reply to post by beezzer




I was OK with the Tea Party until I began hearing them bad mouth social security retirements as though they were no more than public assistance.

I was OK with the Tea Party until I saw the Koch Bros suddenly show up at their rallies talking as though they were so happy the Tea Party existed. We all know the Koch Bros are only interested in money coming to the Koch Bros.

I was OK with the Tea Party until I noted the strong involvement by them with Christianity and apparently their desire for religion to have a stronger voice in government.

I was OK with the Tea Party until I found that they never once ever said anything at all about the wars that we are supporting. The fact that we send our kids to die for nothing is not an issue for them?

I was OK with the Tea Party until I listened as they ranted against unions but they never seemed to notice or mind all the clear conflicts of interest that are generated in DC by lobbyists whispering in the ears of our representatives.

Personal responsibility? Sure I favor that too. But what about all the stuff I just mentioned? None of that is anything to do with personal responsibility.

I'd like to hear the Tea Party position on each of the points I just made above.

reply to post by beezzer


Strangers on tv belching self serving ridiculous.. does not a war make.

Cant take political theater actors like that seriously... lol.. the doctors on scrubs are more convincing & intelligent. They amount to little more than cackling Gulls orbiting the USS Titanic..

reply to post by ararisq


hahaha Great response, covered about 5 Alinsky rules.