War declared on Tea Party

You know when the "CBC" talks this kinda rhetoric its a wonder they are not called raciest. Oh that's right you can't be racist against a majority.

I can only imagine what they will say when Obama becomes a one term president. I believe 2012 will be a very interesting year indeed.

The "CBC" will likely claim that the "raciest" tea party is responsible. Some black people I work with still think Obama is the best president we have ever had and when I ask them to back up that statement with evidence they can't. When I point out the fact he has never kept a campaign promise and that he has spent more money than any other president in the same time period, I am labeled raciest.

Some of them would jump off a cliff if Obama said it was the right thing to do.

TPTB want a divided nation that fight amongst ourselves so their agenda can go forward mostly unnoticed.

However they're many like myself that are not distracted by this nonsense. We know that TPTB need to have us fighting with our neighbors so we can't fight them.

To the Powers That Be. We are coming for you. Expect us.

Originally posted by newcovenant
reply to post by lkpuede

 

14 presidents before the first President GW?
I don't follow you.

well i don't mean to be smart, but maybe it's time for you to brush up on the history of your country. there were, in fact, 14 individuals that carried the title President before George Washington came down the road. and We The People do not elect the President.

now...for a bunch of people who know all about Elenin and The Galactic Federation of Light and the Reptians and Draconians and What Really Happened On 9/11....but don't understand the basic functions of their own government is a truly sad state of affairs.

just sayin...

Originally posted by beezzer

We are at war. A scruffy little grass-roots movement, just wanting smaller government and a return to personal responsibility.
We don't want big government. We don't need program after program after program. Personal responsibility. To yourself, to your family.

An analogy I like to use is this; imagine a person with a broken leg.

The Tea Party would like to see the person go to physical therapy, use crutches, a cane, then walk on their own. It'd be painful. But the patient would learn to walk again, and become self-reliant.

The progressives want to give the person a wheelchair (bought by someone else). They don't want the person to go through the painful process of rehabilitation. They want that person to stay in the wheelchair until the legs have atrophied to a point where they CAN'T leave the wheelchair. They want that person to be dependent. They want that person to NEED them.

Therefore, the war. They will fight for every needy person, every dependent person, because without them, their own existence can't be justified.

Just my take on it.

Yours?

edit on 30-8-2011 by beezzer because: e

Usually, you go through physical therapy when you're in a wheelchair. I have received federal student loans thanks to liberal ideas, but the results sound more like the rehab (paying it back over time) vs. your forced vegetable scenario.

Originally posted by lkpuede

Originally posted by newcovenant
reply to post by lkpuede

 

14 presidents before the first President GW?
I don't follow you.

well i don't mean to be smart, but maybe it's time for you to brush up on the history of your country. there were, in fact, 14 individuals that carried the title President before George Washington came down the road. and We The People do not elect the President.

now...for a bunch of people who know all about Elenin and The Galactic Federation of Light and the Reptians and Draconians and What Really Happened On 9/11....but don't understand the basic functions of their own government is a truly sad state of affairs.

just sayin...

No worries. You're not. I don't know about all that stuff - Reptilians, Draco and Elenin and I think you are wandering off topic again but I do know George Washington was the first President of the United States and we do elect our Presidents.

A duh?

And I edited my post so it would actually reference what I was taking about rather than leave room for whatever crumbs of esoteric knowledge you have to share that are completely off topic...pearls that they are.

reply to post by Kali74

Why is no one that's quoting me, answering any of the other issues I raised? Why is corporate welfare ok but welfare for those that are low income or no income is just a bunch of people wanting hand-outs? Why is the Tea Party so against raising corporate taxes and taxes on people who make more than 250K/year but are perfectly ok with raising taxes on the middle and lower classes. I say again...if you don't want social programs tell the people you want in office that they need to bring our jobs home.

Actually, I had intended to address the second paragraph of your post that I originally replied to, as it contained the questions and stuff you ask here. I didn't because I'm tired(been up all night like a dumb#), and trying to debate stuff like this with Sleepy Slowbrain would probably not be a good idea. Hehe.

I will offer a some short answers to some of what you said in the above paragraph:

1. Corporate Welfare is not ok.
   
2. Raising taxes on anyone is against Conservative or Tea Party principles/ideas
   

The stuff about the jobs either dissapearing or leaving the country, and bringing them back, is an economic issue, which I will be happy to discuss with you, after a bit of sleep.
My apologies.

Originally posted by SWCCFAN
You know when the "CBC" talks this kinda rhetoric its a wonder they are not called raciest. Oh that's right you can't be racist against a majority.

I can only imagine what they will say when Obama becomes a one term president. I believe 2012 will be a very interesting year indeed.

The "CBC" will likely claim that the "raciest" tea party is responsible. Some black people I work with still think Obama is the best president we have ever had and when I ask them to back up that statement with evidence they can't. When I point out the fact he has never kept a campaign promise and that he has spent more money than any other president in the same time period, I am labeled raciest.

Some of them would jump off a cliff if Obama said it was the right thing to do.

TPTB want a divided nation that fight amongst ourselves so their agenda can go forward mostly unnoticed.

However they're many like myself that are not distracted by this nonsense. We know that TPTB need to have us fighting with our neighbors so we can't fight them.

To the Powers That Be. We are coming for you. Expect us.

To the Powers That Be. We are coming for you. Expect us.

I guess this means you are going to Walmart with a pit stop at the EXXON station along the way?

reply to post by Tsurugi

Corporate Welfare is not ok.
Raising taxes on anyone is against Conservative or Tea Party principles/ideas

Judging by their ACTIONS and not your rhetoric here, I would say this is pretty much a deception.
Beware the deceivers.

Originally posted by newcovenant

Originally posted by lkpuede

Originally posted by newcovenant
reply to post by lkpuede

 

14 presidents before the first President GW?
I don't follow you.

well i don't mean to be smart, but maybe it's time for you to brush up on the history of your country. there were, in fact, 14 individuals that carried the title President before George Washington came down the road. and We The People do not elect the President.

now...for a bunch of people who know all about Elenin and The Galactic Federation of Light and the Reptians and Draconians and What Really Happened On 9/11....but don't understand the basic functions of their own government is a truly sad state of affairs.

just sayin...

No worries. You're not. I don't know about all that stuff - Reptilians, Draco and Elenin and I think you are wandering off topic again but I do know George Washington was the first President of the United States and we do elect our Presidents.

A duh?

And I edited my post so it would actually reference what I was taking about rather than leave room for whatever crumbs of esoteric knowledge you have to share that are completely off topic...pearls that they are.

edit on 31-8-2011 by newcovenant because: (no reason given)

you honestly don't know that We The People don't elect the President? seriously? who told you We The People elect the president? wow. you honestly don't know anything about the Electorial College?

you seriously didn't know about the 14 presidents that came before Washington?

man...you got some serious researching to do. it's all a fact, son. go research it.

and all that other stuff about the Reptians and the rest of them was just an open comment. it's just a real shame people don't know about the Constitution, don't know how the President is elected, ect. but they are first ones to shoot off at the mouth without any understanding about the Government they live under.

just like this whole Cheney nonsense. he's not going on trial. sorry...not gonna happen. The United States is not some third world country that puts it's former Heads of State on trial just because they sucked at doing their jobs. just doesn't happen.

some people need to get a general idea about Government before they start spouting off at the mouth.

reply to post by lkpuede


In many posts you have said nothing. Provided no links. No proof.
You are incredulous at your core...are you anything more?

Originally posted by newcovenant
reply to post by lkpuede

 

In many posts you have said nothing. Provided no links. No proof.
You are incredulous at your core...are you anything more?

are you really serious right now? you need a link to the Constitution? you need a link to the Electorial College? are you REALLY serious right now? here's a link for you. copy and paste this in your browser: The Constitution of The United States. here's another something you can copy and past into your browser: The Function of the Electorial College of The United States. when you are done with that, you can look up "how many Presidents were there before George Washington".

get a cup of coffee and get comfortable...you've got a lot of reading to do.

Originally posted by SWCCFAN
You know when the "CBC" talks this kinda rhetoric its a wonder they are not called raciest. Oh that's right you can't be racist against a majority.

I can only imagine what they will say when Obama becomes a one term president. I believe 2012 will be a very interesting year indeed.

The "CBC" will likely claim that the "raciest" tea party is responsible. Some black people I work with still think Obama is the best president we have ever had and when I ask them to back up that statement with evidence they can't. When I point out the fact he has never kept a campaign promise and that he has spent more money than any other president in the same time period, I am labeled raciest.

Seems you're the one who needs help with evidence.

Obama's record on campaign promises.
The Obameter

Originally this movement was about restoring our Constitution - it was more or less a spin-off of the Ron Paul Revolution, but the "Tea Party" has since been hijacked....

I knew something was amiss when Sarah Palin reared her ugly head in support of the Tea Party.

The Tea Party has now been swept up into the MSM blender to make sure that the original goals set forth would never be achieved.

In short, the whole movement has been captured, neutered and neutralized by the NWO, that is if it wasn't engineered by them from the beginning.

reply to post by Kali74


I think Obama is a monkey with economics. I think Bush was too.

I think it's not that bad to show obamacare indifferent to Kenyan witchdoctors. It meets the situation.

I do think sometimes Obama's actions make me, a white person, feel like a slave. Some part of me speculates if he is trying to ruin a nation based off skin color, but there is no proof to that, so why should I speculate?

I think the only racist sign I saw in there was the last one, and that was a man with a cardboard sign, so I doubt he is monetarily or politically all that important. Further more, his shirt says "listen to Bob Marley". Funny. That leads me to think he's actually in opposition to the tea party He also seems to be separate from the crowed. I think he's saying his opinion on the crowed, not with regards to obama.

That basically means none of your images are definitively racist.

So yea, sorry, try again.

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

One of the things the Democrat Party has done very successfully is to convince many disenfranchised people, minorities, and lower and middle class working people that they are truly for the common man and want to help them. They use class warfare to convince people that Republicans are a bunch of rich fat cats who hate poor people and want granny to eat cat food. This is really the rally cry of Marxists, as they promote the idea of Unions representing the proletariat, espoused as the owners of the means of production. That's communism!

No Hor us this is Communism: End of private property, common ownership, end of wage labor, (who is behind this again?) and FREE articles of consumption - We offer this to a handful of poor. The rest get nothing. Sadly Communism in America would be a step up for most Americans who already have nothing. It would be a GAIN. But it will also be a step down for the few, the richest and the most politically connected....and speaking in purely economic terms, not withstanding limits on personal freedoms. (optional anyway) Either way it is preferred over the system we have now, clearly a form of dictatorship. (see below)

Communism is a sociopolitical movement that aims for a classless and stateless society structured upon common ownership of the means of production, free access to articles of consumption, and the end of wage labour and private property in the means of production and real estate. In Marxist theory, communism is a specific stage of historical development that inevitably emerges from the development of the productive forces that leads to a superabundance of material wealth, allowing for distribution based on need and social relations based on freely associated individuals.The exact definition of communism varies, and it is often mistakenly, in general political discourse, used interchangeably with socialism; however, Marxist theory contends that socialism is just a transitional stage on the road to communism. en.wikipedia.org...

We have no material wealth. There is nothing being passed around. Face it. We're broke.

This is a Communist sympathizer. Are you good at puzzles? Maybe you can put these pieces together and come up with a bigger picture. Step back a bit and see if you can tell me what is happening?

What we do have (admit it) is much more like this:

A DICTATORSHIP

A form of government that has the power to govern without consent of those being governed.

In the 20th century and early 21st century, hereditary dictatorship remained a relatively common phenomenon.

For some scholars, a dictatorship is a form of government that has the power to govern without consent of those being governed
(similar to authoritarianism),

while totalitarianism describes a state that regulates nearly every aspect of public and private behavior of the
people.

In other words, dictatorship concerns the source of the governing power (where the power comes from)

and totalitarianism concerns the scope of the governing power (what is the government).

In this sense, dictatorship (government without people's consent) is a contrast to democracy (government whose power comes from people) and totalitarianism (government controls every aspect of people's life) opposes pluralism (government allows multiple lifestyles and opinions). en.wikipedia.org...

Sound familiar? The power behind our Democracy is the Elite. TPTB. Many of the most important decisions concerning what wars we fight, our livelihoods, the peoples Constitutional protections and so many more are being made behind our backs. Without our consent. These modern day royals manipulate politicians.
They own all the largest corporations or interest in those corporations and this is why we see a push to limit employee rights, de-regulate and incentivize companies. We are forced to bribe them to be loyal to the country that MADE THEM THE RICH global entities they are today. This is little more than extortion.
The stock market up and down is like their collective heart beating. It is all about the money.
After they get everything, every loophole, every safety concern dropped, every incentive to manufacture HERE they will still take American jobs to China. They are not as patriotic as you and I are. Work can be done cheaper. They have none of the disgust for Communism and their human rights violations you and I have.
On the contrary THEY WILL EXPLOIT THOSE HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS and we will buy their products if they have to secure a government promise or contract to do it. Like for example GW BUSH and the Sr prescription drug program. We paid to assure the continued survival of Big Pharma and provide low cost drugs to seniors. Prescription drugs are our number one killer. It cost a fortune, money we wish we had now.
Maybe Big Pharma should give it back?

If that wasn't a socialist move what is???? (And yet the Tea Party remained mute.)

These ELITE (TPTB) are ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. THEY WILL FUND BOTH SIDES OF A WAR.
We all already know that.
These are a relatively few ancient families and original old money American pseudo- royalty.
They know how to hang on to their money and have been doing it for a few thousand years.
They are the original owners - they are the HEREDITARY DICTATORSHIP - don't kid yourself for a minute.
This America is the New and Improved Monarchy an Imperial Dictatorship.

We are like free range chickens (as opposed to those kept in pens) This makes us think we are actually free but we are still a captive audience, a market share, under a Freemason thumb, across the pond, and we are being fattened up for the kill none the less.

reply to post by beezzer


Actually we are at war:

Against a small group of people who want this Republic turned into a fascist state ruled by the corporate oligarchy elite (oh I'm sorry, "Job Creators")

These people's idea of a smaller government is to destroy the middle class completely, and make sure that the richest 1% get it all.

These people's idea of a more free nation is to destroy OSHA, and the EPA so that corporations can make this continent completely uninhabitable by people.

The Taxed Enough Already Party is the bulldog of the corporate elite set out to destroy the working man and completely crush the American dream.

reply to post by Gorman91


Sorry but, as a white person that grew up and worked around subtle racism, I recognize a lot of the Tea Party movement for the racist crap that it is.

As far as the economy goes I think the word you're looking for is dog as in corporate lap dog and the United States Congress is a whole pack of them and they're rabid.

reply to post by Kali74


So did I grow up around such. And I've no doubt some of them are racist. But unless they're out right doing it, I see no reason to hate them for the benefits their cause brings. If they are too ignorant to see it, then like the snake that buys an axe for the farmer, they loose their heads by their own ignorance.

There are plenty of people in this world whom are racist but don't know it, and would still view blacks as equals. They're too entwined in their own culture to know. How do you think the N word got to be so popular amongst the poor and lower classes? They're too uneducated to even know.

Originally posted by HauntWok
reply to post by beezzer

 

Actually we are at war:

Against a small group of people who want this Republic turned into a fascist state ruled by the corporate oligarchy elite (oh I'm sorry, "Job Creators")

These people's idea of a smaller government is to destroy the middle class completely, and make sure that the richest 1% get it all.

These people's idea of a more free nation is to destroy OSHA, and the EPA so that corporations can make this continent completely uninhabitable by people.

The Taxed Enough Already Party is the bulldog of the corporate elite set out to destroy the working man and completely crush the American dream.

Wrong. Considering the alternative to your little fantasy, government-run everything!

reply to post by Kali74


Sorry, but you are going to have a hard time explaining that to the black members of our Tea Party here in my town.

The Tea Party is not racist in the slightest bit. Maybe there are a few exceptions as individuals, but the party itself is for smaller government and more personal responsibility, it has nothing to do with race.

And, as a white person that grew up in a town where I barely even saw a black person until I was old enough to drive, the racism in my old town was anything but subtle, and you know what, those same folks making racist jokes and innuendos would be the first folks to pull over and change a tire for a traveller of another race. Those same folks that might joke and cut up and say politically incorrect things, would also be the same ones that would step up and quickly defend a stranger if they were being mistreated.

Racism exists in exquisitely small circles of radicals from both sides, and it exists in the press and the liberal government, but it rarely exists in small-town America. Political incorrectness is rampant, but actual racism is almost unheard of.

The Tea Party is most certainly not Racist, not even in any subtle sort of way, and anyone that thinks otherwise must be bi-curious! As in, if you hate homosexuals you must be one, if you hate racists you must be one, if you see subtle racism in everything people do, then you must be racist on some level. Instead of looking for subliminal messaged in the Tea Party's actions, perhaps you should look at your own thought pattern?

Originally posted by lkpuede

Originally posted by newcovenant
reply to post by lkpuede

 

In many posts you have said nothing. Provided no links. No proof.
You are incredulous at your core...are you anything more?

are you really serious right now? you need a link to the Constitution? you need a link to the Electorial College? are you REALLY serious right now? here's a link for you. copy and paste this in your browser: The Constitution of The United States. here's another something you can copy and past into your browser: The Function of the Electorial College of The United States. when you are done with that, you can look up "how many Presidents were there before George Washington".

get a cup of coffee and get comfortable...you've got a lot of reading to do.

edit on 31-8-2011 by lkpuede because: (no reason given)

I have a copy of the Constitution. And George Washington was the first President since that document was implemented. Most all Dems would like to get rid of the electoral college and go with the popular vote once and for all. Maybe you were not aware of that. Why would I fight you on it? Smell the coffee buddy. You have no links eh? It is just like I thought. Lot of wind...