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Originally posted by MikeyBones
Originally posted by SaturnFX
You are either an atheist, or a theist...there is no neither...its like, are you male or female...(in a world without herms)...you are one or the other, there is no other option or a NA option...you simply are.
I disagree... what if I change opinions? And do so minute by minute?
How can one be sure of something that there is no proof of (or at least the proof is arguable... I say this as the argument is older than I am)? I like to be open to all options and like to listen to all points of view. And we do live in a world of herms and trangenders, so your example isn't the say-all you may believe it is (but do keep believing... it is your right to be wrong too)
You are posting something based fully on ego...you want to be somehow superior than the rest, but the issue is, what you said is soo meaningless it might as well just be random letters you smacked on the keyboard.
I mean no offense
wow... you "mean no offense" but yet throw insults in my direction. I do not at all want to be superior than everyone else (I can't believe you'd even pretend to know what I want or am... talk about a superiority complex!).
I would much rather everyone be as superior as me (I'm trying to use humor here to lighten the fact that you are trying to insult me)!
No, I would much rather everyone realize we are equal. But do please keep analyzing me... you obviously have a degree in psychology (how else could you know how I think).
I think your words are as meaningless as mine (notice the equality thing here) so get off your high horse and stop telling people how right you are.
I used to respect your opinion, but after reading your postings in this thread, I realize you aren't here to accomplish anything other than telling people how right you are and it feels like your trolling for arguments.
You sign out with "peace" after sending out your attacks... love it. Obviously you have no concept of peace. That smiley face only adds to the insult.
Well, I've stepped into a realm I don't want to be in (arguing, insulting, not looking for understanding, not looking to share ideas) and am stepping out of this conversation (I didn't know you had to be ignorant to be part of this one)... feel free to toss insults back and forth in the name of peace and theism or atheism or whatever. Enjoy ('cause I sure am not). Thanks for coming out SaturnFX
Here you go...quite simple and no word spinning into meaninglessness.
Deitys...we don't believe in deitys.
We are not saying there are absolutely no deitys...that is not atheism, that is gnostic atheism...but atheism is no belief in a deity(s)...conscious creators of the universe...gods...
pretty sure that answers your question.
As far as not believing being resisting belief...well, I also personally don't believe in unicorns, I don't resist the temptation to believe in unicorns, because there is no temptation based on personal evidence that they exist.
If "God" shows up personally and proves he is indeed the one creator of all things, etc...I will certainly believe at that point that some godlike creature, probably god (or a minion thereof) does exist, even though I may not be able to make sense of it.
I would also accept my personal subjective experience does nothing for the overall cause of letting the truth be known. I would tell my story, people would be skeptical of it, and I would fully agree with their skepticism...just relay the events to the best of my ability and move on...knowing exactly why atheists think how they think and without any bad words for them other than a hope that they also recieve whatever it was that I recieved, or some actual proof turned up that cannot be refuted.
See...I am not resisting the belief in God, there is nothing to resist beyond other people telling me I should believe in unicorns and god...I simply don't believe in them
I am not opposed to the idea of godlike aliens btw...but meh, we all like entertaining speculation to some degree.
Originally posted by rwfresh
Do you support the posting of billboards declaring disbelief in unicorns? I hope not. But you are OK with billboards declaring a bearded floating entity in the sky is not real? Aren't both unicorns and bearded entities in the sky equally retarded?
That's OK. But you insist on using the word God. And if i believed THE DEFINITION of God as you did, i wouldn't believe in it either. But i don't believe in your definition of God. I think it is totally and completely shallow, one-dimensional and juvenile.
and I could care less what you have to say
Originally posted by RoguePhilosopher
People hate atheists simply because the dont like and are afraid of the truth. Atheists are have an anti crutch mentallity and their haters dont want to give up their crutches!!!
TPTB dont like atheists because they cant be so easily lead or controlled!
Imagine how incensed American Bible Belt Christian fundamentalists would react if Muslims or Buddhists, or Hindi "preachers" came knocking on their door and got into their face about being "saved" in the same way that Christian fundamentalists have set up shop among other cultures and in other lands.
Christian fundamentalists would be FURIOUS and their reaction would be swift and severe to any who would DARE attempt to dissuade them from their self righteous Biblical assumptions and preacher-inspired beliefs. but self anointed, "servant of God" Christian fundamentalist hypocrites actually have the nerve to declare that it's their "duty" and "responsibility" to "bring the salvation of the Lord" to other people, in other cultures, because "the Lord" told them to to it, blah, blah, blah, when the real "mission" is to gather more power, gain greater influence, and expand their financial empires.
also not all believers/theists hate atheists, i don't see wiccans cursing/hexing atheists just to give an example.