Ron Paul voted to not protect children from harm, page 1
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Topic started on 10-8-2011 @ 10:24 AM by kro32

Ron Paul voted NO on establishing nationwide AMBER alert system for missing kids.



This is the bill he voted against:

Vote to adopt the conference report on the bill that would assign a national coordinator for AMBER alerts. AMBER alerts is an alert system for missing children, make available additional protections for children and set stricter punishments for sex offenders. Two-time child sex offenders would be subjected to mandatory life sentence. The measure would make it a crime to pander visual illustrations of children as child pornography. It would increase maximum sentences for a number of specified crimes against children. It would also make it a crime to take a trip to foreign countries and engage in illicit sexual conduct with a minor. It also would enlarge law enforcement’s wiretap and electronic surveillance abilities in investigations of child pornography. Reference: Child Abduction Prevention Act; Bill S 151 ; vote number 2003-127 on Apr 10, 2003


Now you are probably asking yourself why any normal thinking person would oppose such a thing as this. Well his reasons are that it's not in the Constitution......what?

However, Mr. Speaker, I am concerned that making the AMBER Alert system a Federal program is neither constitutionally sound nor effective law enforcement. All Americans should be impressed at the demonstrated effectiveness of the AMBER system in locating missing and kidnapped children. However, I would ask my colleagues to consider that one of the factors that makes the current AMBER system so effective is that the AMBER Alert system is not a Federal program. Instead, states and local governments developed AMBER Alerts on their own, thus ensuring that each AMBER system meets the unique needs of individual jurisdictions. Once the AMBER Alert system becomes a one-size-fits all Federal program (with standards determined by DC-based bureaucrats instead of community-based law enforcement officials) local officials will not be able to tailor the AMBER Alert to fit their unique circumstances. Thus, nationalizing the AMBER system will cause this important program to lose some of its effectiveness.


chip91.wordpress.com...

I'm sorry but protecting children should be bound by no jurisdiction whatsoever and should be a priority no matter what any piece of paper says. To date there have been 523 children recovered from predators using this system and they might very well be dead if it had been up to Ron Paul.

www.missingkids.com...

Ron Paul for President...yeah ok


reply posted on 10-8-2011 @ 10:28 AM by kro32
reply to post by filosophia



So your kid get's abducted from a playground or somewhere and you wouldn't want every available resource to get that child back?

I find that hard to believe.


reply posted on 10-8-2011 @ 10:30 AM by ohioriver
reply to post by kro32



Paul is right.Those words should bring terror to all parents

"I am from the government and I am here to help"


reply posted on 10-8-2011 @ 10:30 AM by relpobre000
reply to post by kro32



Would you like me to get some more hay for that strawman you're building? He doesn't think the federal government has any business making laws like this and I happen to agree. Won't somebody please think of the children.


reply posted on 10-8-2011 @ 10:31 AM by XplanetX
Originally posted by kro32

Ron Paul voted NO on establishing nationwide AMBER alert system for missing kids.



This is the bill he voted against:

Vote to adopt the conference report on the bill that would assign a national coordinator for AMBER alerts. AMBER alerts is an alert system for missing children, make available additional protections for children and set stricter punishments for sex offenders. Two-time child sex offenders would be subjected to mandatory life sentence. The measure would make it a crime to pander visual illustrations of children as child pornography. It would increase maximum sentences for a number of specified crimes against children. It would also make it a crime to take a trip to foreign countries and engage in illicit sexual conduct with a minor. It also would enlarge law enforcement’s wiretap and electronic surveillance abilities in investigations of child pornography. Reference: Child Abduction Prevention Act; Bill S 151 ; vote number 2003-127 on Apr 10, 2003


Now you are probably asking yourself why any normal thinking person would oppose such a thing as this. Well his reasons are that it's not in the Constitution......what?

However, Mr. Speaker, I am concerned that making the AMBER Alert system a Federal program is neither constitutionally sound nor effective law enforcement. All Americans should be impressed at the demonstrated effectiveness of the AMBER system in locating missing and kidnapped children. However, I would ask my colleagues to consider that one of the factors that makes the current AMBER system so effective is that the AMBER Alert system is not a Federal program. Instead, states and local governments developed AMBER Alerts on their own, thus ensuring that each AMBER system meets the unique needs of individual jurisdictions. Once the AMBER Alert system becomes a one-size-fits all Federal program (with standards determined by DC-based bureaucrats instead of community-based law enforcement officials) local officials will not be able to tailor the AMBER Alert to fit their unique circumstances. Thus, nationalizing the AMBER system will cause this important program to lose some of its effectiveness.


chip91.wordpress.com...

I'm sorry but protecting children should be bound by no jurisdiction whatsoever and should be a priority no matter what any piece of paper says. To date there have been 523 children recovered from predators using this system and they might very well be dead if it had been up to Ron Paul.

www.missingkids.com...

Ron Paul for President...yeah ok



Ron Paul voted against the bill because it makes the current Amber system that is in place Federal rather than local. He wants it to remain efficient and effective.

Take your blinkers off.


reply posted on 10-8-2011 @ 10:31 AM by kro32
reply to post by seedofchucky



I understand your point however the individual jurisdictions were not doing the job effectively and this is why the Amber Alert System was developed and it has had very good results. As I stated I believe that the protection of children should know no bounds in the political areana.

Let there be multiple systems in place if need be to get these kids back. Some issues go beyond it's this persons responsiblilty or that persons.


reply posted on 10-8-2011 @ 10:34 AM by sheepslayer247
reply to post by kro32



We have to be careful as to not get wrapped up in the emotions of these types of legislation. It may look bad that he voted it down, but his reasoning is 100% spot-on!

Emergency systems are always better when coordinated locally, as the Fed has a history of red-tape and politics tainting the flow of such systems.

At least he is consistent!


reply posted on 10-8-2011 @ 10:35 AM by filosophia
Originally posted by kro32
reply to
post by filosophia



So your kid get's abducted from a playground or somewhere and you wouldn't want every available resource to get that child back?

I find that hard to believe.


So long as we are throwing out hypotheticals, what if I went to the police and the federal amber alert system and they couldn't do anything? What then?


reply posted on 10-8-2011 @ 10:41 AM by beezzer
reply to post by kro32


"Ron Paul voted to not protect children from harm"
(I bet he kicks puppies and makes bunnies cry as well)

Seriously? We're gonna get bent out of shape because Paul didn't want another federal program?
*gasp*
The horror, the horror. . . . .


reply posted on 10-8-2011 @ 10:43 AM by havok
reply to post by mnemeth1



I concur and would like to add this:
This thread is just an example of nitpicking when the OP doesn't have the facts.
Or is highly misunderstanding the original article.

Why anyone on earth would try to make RP look bad is beyond me.
The man is a true congressman.
At least he knows the limits of gov't.
Unlike 99% of CONgress and the public.


2000th post FTW!



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