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Originally posted by jjkenobi
reply to post by neo96
Dude you're killing them and they have no clue and can only offer lame excuses. I don't know why you bother you have more patience than I do.
It's DEMOCRATS and SOCIALISTS who start World WARS.
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by Master_007
That's the really scary part. Every party is now talking about spending cuts...but if you actually bother looking up what kind of spending they wanna cut, you realize it's a TINY amount because they're not willing to tackle the accounts that are responsible for most of the deficit. As long as corporate tax loop holes and defence spending aren't fixed, nothing will improve. Sadly, corporate tax loop holes won't be fixed because the politicians are now working for their corporate donors rather than the people, and neither will defence spending given how strong the military lobby is.
I'm writing up an economic analysis of this entire mess (for my real life job), and the scary part is, no matter what they do, it's pretty clear that the US has years of hard times ahead of them. And that's assuming they actually fix something instead of only applying bandaids (aka cutting teachers' salaries) instead of really fixing things. Gonna post a quick summary of it all later tonight
Originally posted by MrXYZ
Are you suffering from memory loss? Who started the most expensive war in US history (yes, it's now costing more than WW2) over in Iraq and Afghanistan? You might wanna read up on it...it was BUSH and Cheney. Last I checked, they're not democrats.
edit on 27-7-2011 by MrXYZ because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by James1982
Entitlements... yeah, that's it.
Tell me, exactly, why AREN'T people entitled to Social Security and Medicare? THEY PAID INTO IT. It's THEIR money.
Please, stop with this entitlement crap. Unless the government wants to give back all the money they have stolen from people's paychecks for 40 years (SS + Medicare) then people deserve their SS and Medicare. Or do you support stealing money from American citizens? Because that's what refusing SS and Medicare would be.
The government is in this problem because of overspending on the Military, back-room deals with corporate America, and the destruction of the free market. They have crafted this country's economy, they are in control of the boom and bust cycle. Every bust just gets worse and worse, because it's all basically fake.
The government needs to get out of the economy, the fed needs to go, and people need to start working again. Cut 75% of the government overnight, and military spending. Problem solved.edit on 26-7-2011 by James1982 because: (no reason given)
That's why Bush went to Iraq. To get you OIL to have electricity and so you can drive your car.
Since you don't want to kill the Saudi's for stabbing us in the back....Bush had to kill a few Iraqi's JUST for you.
If you quit using electricity and the internet in shame for what he had to do for you we will all understand.
The only reason THIS war is so "expensive" is because Bush had to SHAFT the Saudi's out of hundreds of BILLIONS they had invested in the US...which started a worldwide panic and market pull out.
The actual COST of killing the Iraqi's is actually quite low. It took 1 million bullets in the Vietnam War to kill 1 North Korean....plus hundreds of bombing runs with B-52's to take out each village since we didn't have guided bombs. What you THINK we spent in the war...isn't what was spent in the war.
What you THINK we spent on the Iraq War...ISN'T what we spent on the Iraq War. DOD had to use $$$$ to fluff up the Stock Market to cover the Saudi money we ripped from them....and other countries as well.