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Evidence from the filing suggests that Republican operatives were compromised....
....In case that seems a bit too technical and "big deal" for you, consider what he was saying. SmarTech, a private company, had the ability in the 2004 election to add or subtract votes without anyone knowing they did so....
SmarTech had the correct placement, connectivity, and computer experts necessary to change the election in any manner desired
Originally posted by Bramble Iceshimmer
reply to post by Griffo
So. That election is over and done with and the winner is out of office. We've had another election so it's a moot point. The GOP just had better hackers, lawyers and judges than the democrats.
I've often heard people say on this website that bush stole the 2004 election. It now looks as if that is correct, if this is to be believed. The ramifications of that are probably huge,
millions of elderly are scared as they dangle their social security checks...just so Obama can be a hero and get another 4 year term to push forward the agenda.
Originally posted by Griffo
First of all I don't know much (read: anything) about US politics or political parties, so don't shoot the messenger.
Originally posted by syrinx high priest
then how did mccain lose to the black guy whose middle name is hussein and last name sounds like osama ?
did he miss a payment ?
loledit on 24-7-2011 by syrinx high priest because: (no reason given)
It is worth noticing that, ever since the 1950s, dubious events – of the unpublic variety I have called deep events – have marked the last months before a change of party in the White House. These deep events have tended to a) constrain the incoming president, if he is a Democrat or, alternatively, b) to pave the way for the incomer, if he is a Republican.
Consider, in the first category, the following (when a Republican was succeeded by a Democrat): – In December 1960 the CIA secured approval for the Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba, and escalated events in Laos into a crisis for which the Joint Chiefs proposed sending 60 000 troops. These events profoundly affected President Kennedy’s posture towards Cuba and Indochina.
– In 1976 CIA Director George H.W. Bush installed an outside Team B intelligence unit to enlarge drastically estimates of the Soviet threat to the United States, eventually frustrating and reversing presidential candidate Jimmy Carter’s campaign pledge to cut the U.S. defense budget.
Equally important were events in the second category (when a Democrat was succeeded by a Republican):
- In late 1968 Kissinger, while advising the Johnson administration, gave secret information to the Nixon campaign that helped Nixon to obstruct the peace agreement in Vietnam that was about to be negotiated at the peace talks then taking place in Paris. (According to Seymour Hersh, "The Nixon campaign, alerted by Kissinger to the impending success of the peace talks, was able to get a series of messages to the Thieu government" in Saigon, making it clear that a Nixon presidency would offer a better deal. This was a major factor in securing the defeat of Democratic candidate Hubert Humphrey. Kissinger was not the kind of person to have betrayed his president on his own personal initiative. At the time Nixon’s campaign manager, John Mitchell (one of the very few in on the secret), told Hersh, "I thought Henry [Kissinger] was doing it because Nelson [Rockefeller] wanted him to. Nelson asked Henry to help and he did."
- In 1980 the so-called October Surprise, with the help of people inside the CIA, helped ensure that the Americans held hostage in Iran would not be returned before the inauguration of Reagan. This was a major factor in securing the defeat of incumbent Jimmy Carter. Once again, the influence of the Rockefellers can be discerned. A CIA officer later reported hearing Joseph V. Reed, an aide to David Rockefeller, comment in 1981 to William Casey, the newly installed CIA Director, about their joint success in disrupting Carter’s plans to bring home the hostages.
Both the financial bailout, extorted from Congress and the escalated preparations for martial law can be seen as transitional events of the first category. Whatever the explanations for their timing, they constrained Obama’s freedom to make his own policies. Moreover they have the consequence of easing this country into unforeseen escalations of the Afghan war.
President Johnson: "Some of our folks, including some of the old China lobby, are going to the Vietnamese embassy and saying please notify the president that if he'll hold out 'til November the second they could get a better deal. Now, I'm reading their hand, Everett. I don't want to get this in the campaign."
Sen. Dirksen: "That's right".
President Johnson: "And they oughtn't to be doin' this. This is treason".
Sen. Dirksen: "I know".
Originally posted by newcovenant
This is a little off topic but while posting here in this thread a virus threat was detected.
Could the thread be infected? I am not sure how virus are caught.
Originally posted by centurion1211
...Who came out of nowhere - literally - to defeat such establishment democrats like the Clintons.
...So, if Republicans are so able to "steal" elections, how in hell did they miss this one?