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Let's call Obamas' bluff.

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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 07:52 PM
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Try not to be a cynic in this case. Do what YOU can do. Stop comparing yourself to others.

Stop saying there is nothing YOU can do.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 07:52 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
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there is such a thing called independent evloution of thought and wow looky more news sources than anyone cares to look at.

over 100 million people are on the government payroll social security has no funds left in it that money is gone as soon as its collected.

oh here heres another tidbits that people just tune deaf ear to people spending their whole lives on welfare and yeah when they "retire" they get social security.

or the fact the those who are on social security have medicare deducted from a government check to pay the government back.

as oppose to the knuckleheads who push and favor the stupidty listen and push for more without a thought of where the cash comes from.

and do you really want to talk parroting here youve not said nothing i have heard from the typical clueless leftist of this country.


Between 1988 - 2010 we the taxpayers OVERPAID into Social Security!!! By approximately 2 TRILLION DOLLARS!!!!

WE PAID, and BY GOLLY, they better PAY US BACK when its time to retire.

And I am not a lefty. You gather that I am a 'lefty parrot' based on my my opinion that the government is RESPONSIBLE for PAYING BACK THE TAXPAYER WHAT WE PAID FOR???


How does that make me sound like I am a parroting leftist. What a JOKE!!!


Stop listening to your Rush and Beck heros, they tend to make folks think like real morons!!
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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 07:56 PM
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that is hilarious people overpaid into social security the fact is everyone underpays into a so called system that sends them a monthly check for the rest of their lives.

a few bucks a month for 20 or 30 years does not amount to 1000 bucks if your lucky for the rest of your life and 2000 if your really lucky.

like my aunt who has never worked a day in her life and draws it.

give it up



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 07:57 PM
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You've made your point. You're not giving. You're not helping those in need.
Got it.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 07:58 PM
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Originally posted by pplrnuts

Originally posted by beezzer


Let's show that we are charitable, giving people and that we can take care of our own without the government helping.



You cant possibly be talking about the 'wealthy' Americans being charitable!!!


They dont even want to pay a dime in taxes so how they gonna be charitable? Since they are the ONLY AMericans with money at the current time, I assume thats whom you mean would be charitable.

The wealthy are so cheap and greedy that most of them would kill their own family members if a genie popped out of a bottle and offered them 1/10 of a percent more quarterly profit!!!

Charitable, thats a laugh!!

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So the wealthy are the ONLY AMericans with money at the current time? I didn't know my $47k / year qualified as wealthy.


As to the original intent of this thread, both me and my brother, who I guess also qualifies as wealthy (he'll be surprised!), have enough funds to keep our mother where she lives for quite a few months, at least 18.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 07:58 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
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that is hilarious people overpaid into social security the fact is everyone underpays into a so called system that sends them a monthly check for the rest of their lives.

a few bucks a month for 20 or 30 years does not amount to 1000 bucks if your lucky for the rest of your life and 2000 if your really lucky.

like my aunt who has never worked a day in her life and draws it.

give it up


TWO TRILLION DOLLARS and you say give it up!!!


I bet you would like folks to give up on that , eh mr wealthy shill??



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 07:59 PM
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this is hilarious that the dude expects the government lives up to its obligations when it never has since its creation.


good luck making the government pay really now good luck
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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 08:01 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer
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You've made your point. You're not giving. You're not helping those in need.
Got it.



NIce baseless assumption.

What else can we expect from grade-a Beck and Rush boot lickers, eh?



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 08:01 PM
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Does everyone who gets a legal check for their wages, not have SS taken out on a weekly/bi-weekly basis?
Then I would presume, that the working class people who are paying in to date should be able to cover it. Also, It is stated that it is funded until 1935?(I heard from radio people, also I think the press secretary)

How does Our government decide to hold hostage the God earned money by its' Citizens hostage for this debate?
Obama should be tried for treason for even attempting to give back the peoples' monies that it confiscated.
The last check that shouldn't be payed is this... but then again, it is all of our monies, every dime.
Obama should be held accountable to try and restrict our own money. I would like to see any bank or any company do the same to my 401k! That is why 401k's hurt the government, they have no control!

Our government should be held accountable to the McCain/Feingold disaster as every other large company.
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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
this is hilarious that the dude expects the government lives up to its obligations when it never has since its creation.


good luck making the government pay really now good luck
edit on 23-7-2011 by neo96 because: (no reason given)


So you say lay down and give up?? The founding fathers of America turn in their graves with folks like you living here!!

Wealthy shill!!



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by pplrnuts

Originally posted by beezzer
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You've made your point. You're not giving. You're not helping those in need.
Got it.



NIce baseless assumption.

What else can we expect from grade-a Beck and Rush boot lickers, eh?


Whatever dude. You're just trollin' now. Go collect your check from MediaMatters.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 08:03 PM
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Great post Beezer, Your ideology is indicative of true human socialism. No centralism. I do however see the wealthy agendizing their selflessness, as they have deeply rooted scruples that will indelibly turn towards self indulgence once again.

'What have you done for me?', 'What's in it for me?'...'I own you'...

What's needed is the downfall of centralism, A new currency to displace the wealthy with, and a banking system based on contribution vs. iconic acquisition. An unbiased valuation committee comprised of partyless, afilliationless individuals who serve in the same way jury selection serves and is chosen by to serve as this banking directorate.

Thoughtful imagination can go from there, I don't care to write it all out... Because it'll be a waste of my time and energy. If people truly wanted to do right by others, I'd gladly work with just and like minded people to outline this system.

Yes, that was a challenge to those in power, or who feels that they CAN have the power.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 08:04 PM
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Originally posted by pplrnuts

Originally posted by beezzer
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You've made your point. You're not giving. You're not helping those in need.
Got it.



NIce baseless assumption.

What else can we expect from grade-a Beck and Rush boot lickers, eh?

You do nothing but prove my point.
Please, please continue.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 08:05 PM
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yeah the founders would be turning in their graves at the millions of americans on the government dime

and expect them to pay for the people from cradle to grave and to create programs on mass that turns every single person in this country dependent upon a tyrannical government.

seriously the founders never would have allowed the creation of social security medicaid and medicare.

if they did they would have but looky here THEY DIDNT.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 08:06 PM
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Originally posted by TDawgRex

Originally posted by pplrnuts

Originally posted by beezzer
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You've made your point. You're not giving. You're not helping those in need.
Got it.



NIce baseless assumption.

What else can we expect from grade-a Beck and Rush boot lickers, eh?


Whatever dude. You're just trollin' now. Go collect your check from MediaMatters.


Nothing says "I am too incompetent to offer any further replies" than your post!!!

Well done!!!



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by Heyyo_yoyo
Great post Beezer, Your ideology is indicative of true human socialism. No centralism. I do however see the wealthy agendizing their selflessness, as they have deeply rooted scruples that will indelibly turn towards self indulgence once again.

'What have you done for me?', 'What's in it for me?'...'I own you'...

What's needed is the downfall of centralism, A new currency to displace the wealthy with, and a banking system based on contribution vs. iconic acquisition. An unbiased valuation committee comprised of partyless, afilliationless individuals who serve in the same way jury selection serves and is chosen by to serve as this banking directorate.

Thoughtful imagination can go from there, I don't care to write it all out... Because it'll be a waste of my time and energy. If people truly wanted to do right by others, I'd gladly work with just and like minded people to outline this system.

Yes, that was a challenge to those in power, or who feels that they CAN have the power.


I don't see how it is socialism. Helping people that need help. What is truely needed, is a stop to the dependence of government. But thanks for your thought provoking post.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 08:08 PM
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Still trying to troll?

hehe...not biting fool.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 08:10 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
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yeah the founders would be turning in their graves at the millions of americans on the government dime

and expect them to pay for the people from cradle to grave and to create programs on mass that turns every single person in this country dependent upon a tyrannical government.

seriously the founders never would have allowed the creation of social security medicaid and medicare.

if they did they would have but looky here THEY DIDNT.


Listen here you shill, I am talking about Social Security only!!!! I am talking about MONEY that the TAXPAYERS PAID into and by golly they BETTER get it.

Stop clouding this all up with nonsense. I am talking about SOCIAL SECURITY ONLY that was PAID for by we the TAXPAYERS for our retirement.

I bet you would be the FIRST person here to cry BLOODY MURDER if you paid for something and didnt get it.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by TDawgRex
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Still trying to troll?

hehe...not biting fool.


Troll? Nothing says incompetence than posting that someone is a troll because you dont agree with them, eh?



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 08:11 PM
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Socialism is not intended by me to provoke political views but a truly social, vs. the anti social system based upon Statism we exist under today.




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