just curious how long did it take you to compile all that info? s+f now the only thing needed is obama himself to give a press conference (something he seems to love doing) and say once and for all

"WE ARE NOT ALONE, WE HAVE NEVER BEEN ALONE, AND NOW MORE ARE COMING"

that would truly make my day, but I doubt if that will ever happen ................................we live on prison planet earth
and I am inmate gaurdian2012 rattling my cage

Sadly still there's not one shred of evidence of alien life, not 1 un-bunkable video/photo. Why is that? Because aliens life will never be proven true or false, they will always remain an obscure mystery. A little knowledge of Biblical history will tell you simply that these are demonic entities and that's a proven fact.

People get so emotionally attached to the ufo theory and they fool themselves into believing it. But when you really think rationally about it and feed yourself knowledge from a Biblical standpoint and science standpoint and other stand points it all falls back to 1 thing.... which is to make people loose faith in God.

Originally posted by gaurdian2012
just curious how long did it take you to compile all that info?

Well, let's just say I've spent longer compiling information on UFOs (including cross-referencing about 1,000 UFO books plus quite a few articles and documents) than I'd like to have to justify on a cost/benefit analysis...

S&F

Hope this stays a hot topic till every bit of info is read, dissected and reported on here !

Outstanding work, I'm going to need a good month to get through this thread, good stuff.
Thankyou

There is no doubt that it would be a good idea to backup and/or mirror this site. I've spent some time on the Blue Book documents myself here at ATS as a Document Archivist. As a librarian I know that this massive amount of material is quite useless unless it is properly classified (in the sense of organization, nor in the sense of security) and retrievable via many different methods. We've seen some methods here already to scrape the documents off that site (thus overloading their servers, slowing them down, and likely angering the hosts), but as I believe has been stated, hundreds of thousands of documents sitting on a hard drive is just the start of the work. Until they are both organized and easily available, you've got a real mess on your hands.

And it begs several questions.

First, I'm pretty certain the resulting "quagmire on a disk" will be full of thousands upon thousands of documents that say something like, "Two B-29 crews saw a fast-moving object traveling in a northeasterly direction the night of July 21st." In going through the Blue Book items, the amount of information per report is even less. Most of them are of the "I saw a light in the sky!" variety. There certainly is a lot of information, but it's not quality information. In fact, it's very tedious. So my question is, what is going through this stuff going to do for us? Is the idea to look for some sort of smoking gun memo ala Twining? Is this a search and recover mission more than an attempt at preservation? And might you not want ALL the documents at all given the lack of information in most of them?

Secondly, as I alluded to above, the bigger problem is presentation. If we're to go from an organized searchable database to an unorganized unsearchable collection of material, we've lost the most important part of the archive. The question here is, how are we going to preserve any sense of presentability to the data?

Thirdly, athough grabbing that stuff is certainly reducing the risk of its demise, what good is it sitting on a hard drive? Unless we can make this stuff easily available, it's not disclosed at all. Who knows how large a file it is in total, but my guess is it would take several DVD-sized discs to store it all. That means going into production to some extent, setting up a distribution mechanism so people can procur a set for themselves.

In the final analysis it seems to me that the best place for this stuff is an easily accessible, searchable location that requires the least work. In other words, a web site. And, of course, it's already there. So if the idea is to make a better site than the one it is on now, that means a very different project and skill set than the idea of grabbing that stuff off of the existing site. So I think some clarification of intent is necessary here. What is the end result you would like to see and how will that help?

Sir, this is one of the OPs with the most epic proportions I've ever seen...!!! My sincere admiration, and star and flag for you!

Having just returned from work and being very tired, I'm still able to realize, that the creation of this thread afforded a whole lot of work, but also, that this thread and the information it provides, will bring back much needed sobriety to the field of Ufology, while it also will help on Ufology itself by adding to the majority of UFO-researchers widely unknown source material that might bring a new light to the mystery behind the UFO-phenomenon.

Thanks a lot for your hard work, and may it bear fruits!

Originally posted by WideAwakeNow
Outstanding work, I'm going to need a good month to get through this thread, good stuff.
Thankyou

A month? I have been at this for years and thought 6000 plus documents I haven't got cataloged yet was a lot. Good luck with that 6 months

Originally posted by samaka
Sadly still there's not one shred of evidence of alien life, not 1 un-bunkable video/photo. Why is that? Because aliens life will never be proven true or false, they will always remain an obscure mystery. A little knowledge of Biblical history will tell you simply that these are demonic entities and that's a proven fact.

People get so emotionally attached to the ufo theory and they fool themselves into believing it. But when you really think rationally about it and feed yourself knowledge from a Biblical standpoint and science standpoint and other stand points it all falls back to 1 thing.... which is to make people loose faith in God.

So with God's ability to create man from nothing and Eve from man's rib, you actually believe that he found us to be the perfect creation and did not create similar or dissimilar beings anywhere else on the hundreds of thousands of planets in "his" vast universe?

And if he did create other beings do you believe we were the first and thus the most advanced? If you do not believe God created anyone other than us, then you must ask yourself why he created such a vast universe (because he could is not a fair or logical reason).

So....if we were not the first it is possible that the others may be much advanced spiritually, scientifically and technologically and may be visiting to ensure we don't get into trouble or worse still destroy ourselves and the universe along with us.

......just saying!

Yeah.....I am with the guy/girl who suggested creating a better web site with all the information you have compiled thus far. I am sure it will not only be lucrative but we could all use a site that is obtainable for easy reading of said documents.

I am still sifting through all you have presented. I can't wait til tomorrow as I will have ALL DAY to read.

Originally posted by IsaacKoi
Well, there is one excuse for failing to go back to this source material : the sheer mass of material – combined with a fairly slow and unhelpful means of accessing it – means that it is a quite painful to look at these documents on the Footnote.com website.

I see what you mean... no nice PDF format and very slow loading a file you want through their viewer. That will take a long time to wade through