Massive UFO disclosure in USA : A challenge for ATS

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posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by jburg6
Has everyone lost interest in the original purpose because of the length of time involved?


Well, I know I haven't lost interest nor has Xtraeme stopped working on the technique mentioned at the top of Page 19.
I mentioned in that post my reluctance to post too much detail about Xtraeme's (considerable!) efforts, since the relevant story is really one for Xtraeme to tell (and get the credit for).

The last time I discussed this topic was just yesterday, in the light of some positive news from Xtraeme. See the beginning of Xtraeme's post yesterday at the link below:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I think it's fair to say that the issue was a bit more complicated than I hoped when I started this thread...
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posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 10:52 AM
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Damn you Isac. To much for my bwain.
Tell us YOUR personal conclusion.
Are, they here?
Have they been?
Ever?



posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 11:17 AM
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Originally posted by Miccey
Tell us YOUR personal conclusion.
Are, they here?
Have they been?


I hope you don't mind Miccey, but I'll duck those questions for now.

During the last few years, I've been more comfortable highlighting useful resources and providing references to relevant discussions etc than in voicing opinions regarding UFOs.

Plenty of people within ufology voice opinions and speculations. By avoiding doing so myself, I've (generally) managed to stay on friendly terms with many skeptics in addition to many ufologists - rather than being seen to pick sides.

Besides, forming a final view would require more material than I've managed to obtain so far. Okay, I've been through over 1,000 UFO books and lots of government documents (mainly from the USA, Canada and the UK) BUT there are lots of obvious gaps in what I've seen. I'm not sure whether it would be worth the effort required to reduce the uncertainties involved. To take things to the next level, I'd have to organise a project which would be more ambitious than anything attempted so far within ufology. I couldn't do it by myself. Some projects that could add significantly to the available data would be relatively quick and easy IF the right people were involved. In the past few months I've been tempted to post an outline on ATS of some of the steps that could be taken (under a project that I've tentatively entitled "The Collective") but, frankly, I'm not sure how many people would have the appetite for the amount of work that would be required.

Heck, I'm far from convinced that that I have the necessary appetite myself.


In short, this thread was intended as ONE challenge for ATS but it was not intended to be the ONLY challenge I post...

Once Xtraeme shares his solution to the challenge set in this thread, I'll be tempted to post details of another challenge which - I think - could add significantly to the study of issues relating to UFO reports.
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posted on Dec, 16 2013 @ 04:25 PM
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IsaacKoi

Originally posted by jburg6
Has everyone lost interest in the original purpose because of the length of time involved?


Well, I know I haven't lost interest nor has Xtraeme stopped working on the technique mentioned at the top of Page 19.
I mentioned in that post my reluctance to post too much detail about Xtraeme's (considerable!) efforts, since the relevant story is really one for Xtraeme to tell (and get the credit for).


As a taster (and, hopefully, a resource that will also be useful to some of you), I have temporarily uploaded the Project Blue Book index pages for each year from 1947 to 1969 to the link below:
we.tl...

That link includes both of the two sets of documents at the longer-term links below.

The first link contains relatively high resolution redacted versions (sourced from Fold3 website, following a considerable amount of work by "Xtraeme" of ATS to enable that huge collection of Project Blue Book documents to be stored on a local hard-drive).

The second link contains lower quality unredacted copies of index pages (showing relevant names) sourced from the bluebookarchive.org website and enhanced/resized following valuable assistance from Russian researcher Mikhail Gershtein.

Each set of index pages can either be downloaded individually or (by clicking on the download button on the top right of the relevant screen) you can download each entire collection.

Redacted high resolution :
app.box.com...

For example:



Unredacted low resolution:
app.box.com...

For example (the same page as above, but without those annoying black bits in the copies in the National Archives scans on the Fold3 website...):



Due to the quality of microfilm images/scans being used, the images are far from perfect and the searchable nature of the PDFs is limited - but I nonetheless find the results useful.

As this 30 month long project draws to a close, I started generating searchable PDFs of the US Air Force's other "Project Blue Book" UFO files.

While not posting here about his efforts very often, "Xtraeme" is still doing some related work.

That sort of quiet persistence is, unfortunately, pretty rare in UFO research.

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posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 03:49 PM
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originally posted by: IsaacKoi
I haven't lost interest nor has Xtraeme stopped working on the technique mentioned at the top of Page 19.
I mentioned in that post my reluctance to post too much detail about Xtraeme's (considerable!) efforts, since the relevant story is really one for Xtraeme to tell (and get the credit for).


Xtraeme has now kindly shared the fruits of his work : a 154Gb downloadable archive of the Project Blue Book documents:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

In short, Xtraeme accepted (and met) the challenge I set in this thread.

Congratulations Xtraeme!





 
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