Is Satan truly evil?

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posted on Jul, 13 2011 @ 06:48 PM
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Ok,

So, this is nothing too serious, just a thought I had. I was watching Nick Cage's new movie, "Drive Angry", the other day, and very much enjoyed William Fichtner's character, "The Accountant". Mostly because he was kickass, fun and cool. Anyway, the Accountant (who, for those who haven't seen the movie, works for Mr Satan himself) said some interesting things during the movie, particularly this quote:



Satan is simply the warden of a very large prison. Quiet man actually, thoughtful and he's well read. And I happen to know the idea of sacrificing children in his honour annoys him greatly.


So, in short, assuming that the whole God and the Devil, Heaven and Hell thingie do exist - do y'all think it's possible that this would be true? That Satan isn't evil and corruption incarnate, but just a "man" (You know what I mean) doing his job?

Well, just a thought that was brought on by the movie. Discuss, bitte!
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posted on Jul, 13 2011 @ 06:51 PM
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Yes he is evil



posted on Jul, 13 2011 @ 06:59 PM
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I always thought of Satan as a duality type persona. As in, my guardian angels are my enemies demons. On a different note, an old friend of mine always said, "If you ever meet Satan, he's gunna be wearing a suit.'



posted on Jul, 13 2011 @ 07:00 PM
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D evil.



posted on Jul, 13 2011 @ 07:01 PM
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That's a good thought, about the duality type persona. Which would lead us into the discussion of the whole nature of "Good" and "evil". We better not go there...


I like the idea of Satan in a suit. If I ever meet him, he better, and add to that he better be driving a classic American car and with an old school rock theme song following him wherever he goes, or I'm going to be really disappointed.
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posted on Jul, 13 2011 @ 07:10 PM
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Satan, which is a concept to me, represents the dark side of humanity and the human urge to yield to our dark, and debased urges. Is the "concept" of Satan evil? Yes, I would say so. The visual appearance of Satan in literature usually takes place with people doing bad things, and giving into selfish greed and self interest.

I actually also just watched the movie It was comic bookish and over the top. As Hollywood is known to do, it played hard and fast with stereo types, and looked like it would appeal to a 15yr old boy audience.



posted on Jul, 13 2011 @ 07:14 PM
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Maybe he's just the ultimate rebel as he's rebeled against the ultimate authority and got labelled a "terrorist for his troubles
Good and evil are such relative terms but i must concur with other posters that he must represent evil as that's the role of an archetypal adversary to your typical god figure. It's all fiction, in my opinion, anyway but i'll go along with the assumption



posted on Jul, 13 2011 @ 07:27 PM
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I don't believe in god or the devil... but for one second let's pretend. Who is more evil?

Satan - Ruler of the underworld.
God - Creator of cancer, AIDS, natural disasters, disease, drought, parasites, birth defects, and spiders.

Yeah, if they exist... I know who is more evil.
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posted on Jul, 13 2011 @ 07:31 PM
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Let's face it.

We haven't heard Satan's side of the story. God's books tell us Satan is evil. But of course it does. It's his book. And yet God goes on to do some horrible things in that book. Satan's big act was to torment Job, but only with God's permission.

I say we need to hear Satan's side to really know.



posted on Jul, 13 2011 @ 07:33 PM
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Go ask him... he lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington DC.
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posted on Jul, 13 2011 @ 07:33 PM
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Some think that (Satan) is an alien from another planet....and that the way he has been written about are lies. I apologize ...but I don't remember where I read this...it was quite some time ago.



posted on Jul, 13 2011 @ 07:33 PM
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Anyone that is in the presence of Gods infinite love and grace and decides it isn't enough is pure evil. That is exactly why Satan is evil.



posted on Jul, 13 2011 @ 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by Warpedconsciousness
Anyone that is in the presence of Gods infinite love and grace and decides it isn't enough is pure evil.


This is my biggest problem with religion. "I love you, but if you don't love me back it's an eternity of fire and torture for you! But don't forget... I looove youuuu



posted on Jul, 13 2011 @ 07:39 PM
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That is because you are confused about the nature of god, and who god truly is.
You got god confused with Satan.



posted on Jul, 13 2011 @ 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by Warpedconsciousness
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Anyone that is in the presence of Gods infinite love and grace and decides it isn't enough is pure evil. That is exactly why Satan is evil.


if god is so loving don't you think he'd love satan just the way he is too?



posted on Jul, 13 2011 @ 07:42 PM
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Is Santa really jolly? Well, we've been told he is but he would have to be real for him to be jolly... Same goes for Satan and being evil.



posted on Jul, 13 2011 @ 07:43 PM
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Looks like their agenda is working, once a movie changes your opinion on satan something has gotta be up



posted on Jul, 13 2011 @ 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by David_Reale
Ok,

So, this is nothing too serious, just a thought I had. I was watching Nick Cage's new movie, "Drive Angry", the other day, and very much enjoyed William Fichtner's character, "The Accountant". Mostly because he was kickass, fun and cool. Anyway, the Accountant (who, for those who haven't seen the movie, works for Mr Satan himself) said some interesting things during the movie, particularly this quote:



Satan is simply the warden of a very large prison. Quiet man actually, thoughtful and he's well read. And I happen to know the idea of sacrificing children in his honour annoys him greatly.


So, in short, assuming that the whole God and the Devil, Heaven and Hell thingie do exist - do y'all think it's possible that this would be true? That Satan isn't evil and corruption incarnate, but just a "man" (You know what I mean) doing his job?

Well, just a thought that was brought on by the movie. Discuss, bitte!
edit on 13-7-2011 by David_Reale because: (no reason given)


First ask yourself what Evil is.. And if it is Real.

Then ask yourself who traditionally the Devil is supposed to be.

I think if you are saying Satan might just be a man than you need a new name for personified Evil. If you believe Evil is Real.

Call me traditional, but i think "Satan" works well when talking about ultimate Evil force/spirit. There are plenty of men, with names that are good and evil that are not the Satan.

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posted on Jul, 13 2011 @ 07:46 PM
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Interestingly i just discovered on wiki that another name for Set was Setan so in all likely hood he's just been adopted by the early hebrew belief system and converted into a devil like character we read about in the bible.

Medieval depictions of Satan also often apear to bear considerable similarites with Pan so in my opinion one mans god is another mans devil(satan).

Personally i like the belief that he's merely a symbol for the evil within man, and we all know there's plenty of that. Lets deal with that before we start slandering mythical figures
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posted on Jul, 13 2011 @ 07:56 PM
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If the bible actually depicts god accurately (and I'm just saying, because I don't believe in god) then Satan is a freaking hero.

The tree of knowlege thingy is an interesting parabol. Organized religions message to human kind : "When you were all dumb, things were just swell ". Which kind of says something really.

If he exists, I'd roll with the guy who set us free from a terribly boring eternity consisting of chess games, no-booze parties and patting vegetarian lions. Where is the pleasure in patting a lion if it's vegetarian ? Satan knew that vegetarian lions sucked big time.





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