Originally posted by Firefly_
Here we go again. I am not muslim and I am not defending their faith (I disagree with it as I disagree with all organised religion). This is just how
I see things.
Firstly, British people are fundamentally selfish, ignorant and intolerant. Sure, there are those who are genuinely not, but they are rare. There are
those who are openly "tolerant" but as soon as they are behind closed doors, they drop the act. Any difference is fair game, be it ginger people,
downs syndrome sufferers, muslims, gays, too fat, too thin, the list goes on.
Excuse me? You are talking rot! Britain, like any nation , has its extremists like the BNP and so on, but it is a total fallacy to assume on the
basis of such examples that ALL persons of British nationality are of the ilk you describe. When we went to war in Iraq there were a million people in
the streets of London, standing against the idea. The fact that anyone showed up for that protest what so ever, is proof positive that the large
majority of the utter tripe you just spouted is complete nonsense.
Most people in this country despair at xenophobia of the type and depth that you describe. If anything that sort of BS thinking is more like the
attitude of Americans than Brits.
People forget how Britain got its wealth. Up to a few hundred years ago, Britain was poor and had next to no friends and allies, the French and
Spanish were our mortal enemies. Yes, Britain survived and came out stronger, but instead of learning lessons, it decided to inflict upon the world
the same things it had suffered. Invading and colonising nations around the world, it eventually developed a great empire. This empire was born of
blood. Britain eventually left most nations and returned sovereignty to them, but they were left divided and at war with each other. The fact is,
Britain is responsible for the instability in the Middle East and Africa.
People have NOT forgotten the Empire, and I am far from alone in recognising that period in our history , as the darkest and least laudable of them
all. Most of us are horrified at the wrongs that were done in the name of so called progress, and if our nation tried to do anything of the sort
again, the large majority of the nation would take parliament and butcher every single MP supporting such an action.
We KNOW what we are responsible for as a nation in the main, and it is only isolated pockets of morons who have avoided gaining that understanding.
Most people don't need to be told about British involvement in recent and current events, from the formation of Israel, to Iran in the 70's, to Iraq
and Afghanistan, and currently Libya.
Then there is the way Muslims are treated in this country by ignorant idiots who know nothing about them. From what I know, the majority are just
people who want to live their life in peace the way they want to. They are not a threat to anyone. But there's only so much bullying people can
It is true that ignorant idiots treat Muslims badly. Those self same idiots treat EVERYONE badly , and are not representative of the majority in this
nation, and I would thank you to take your tarring brush , and chew on it before painting us so broadly with it. As someone who has fought against
xenophobia my whole life, in support of ethnic minority saftey and in the spirit of worldwide brotherhood, your assumptions are both wrong, and
utterly disgusting to me, and need to be revised, lest you illuminate your own complete lack of understanding of the way things work here.
So is it any wonder that SOME Muslims have contempt for the British, when they have destroyed their homelands for their own gain and made their lives
here in the UK hell? So basically, if # does hit the fan, then the people of this country are getting exactly what they deserve.
17-7-2011 by Firefly_ because: (no reason given)
No, its no wonder that those who have been accessed by the small minority of sociopathic xenophobes in my nation, are up in arms. I would be pretty
damned angry too , if I had to put up with mobs of skinheads all the time. They disgust me utterly, and represent everything my grandfathers fought to
protect these isles from in the second world war. I consider it an insult to thier memory , and the sacrifices of numberless men of these isles during
that war, that any such persons can wander around opressing those of religious or ethnic minorities.
However, it is not true to say that these criminals are operating with a mandate from the people. These skinheads, most of them chavs, have no large
scale support,and as the grandson of two men who made the slaughter of Nazis thier mission , I do not tolerate them in my town. I have before now run
such folk out of my neighborhood, and will do so again if they raise thier heads above ground for long enough for me to get a cricket bat to them.
Again I say, do NOT presume to tar my nation , or its people , with a wide and tainted brush. We the British people are NOT all hate filled , vile
rascists, and many of us would stand alongside a person of ethnic minority background, against any race related attack. I have many times,and I am not
alone. Get your facts straight.