UK Gets First "Sharia Controlled Zone".

Originally posted by Maslo
reply to post by emptyOmind

 

Muslim extremists ARE the same as Nazis. Both advocate breaching of basic human rights.

How do you call an ideology which is against women rights and personal freedoms, preaches censorship, stoning of adulterers, killing of apostates, punishments such as cutting off hands?
You are right, they are not the same as nazis, they are even WORSE. Nazi ideology did not even preached such things as killing jews initially, they only wanted to deport them or use them for labor. They started killing them only during the war, when it was clear deportation would be too costly.
Islamic extremism preaches that adulteres should be stoned from the start.

you are grouping people who want censorship of porn, and the banning of alcohol in their areas in the same category as extremists terrorists and nazi's. muslims who blow themselves up and the like are extremists, but muslims who want to ban certain things their religion finds immoral in their area are not

reply to post by emptyOmind


Both are extremist. Muslims who "only" demand censorship, banning of alcohol and mandatory separation of sexes may be less extremist than those who want to stone adulterers, but they are still extremists according to western standards.
We have freedom of expression, personal freedoms and gender equality as the law of the land here. If you want Saudi Arabia, go to Saudi Arabia.

reply to post by Maslo


ok well that still makes them different so my point is don't act like their the same. not all muslim's are bad people, i'm sure the majority of the people who support this law aren't bad people, they are just following their faith.

reply to post by emptyOmind


Yes, I have no problems with moderate and liberal muslims who respect our laws and dont try to create Saudi Arabia here. But you should never blindly follow a faith without critical mind.

A good man does good things. A bad man does bad things. But it takes religion to make good men do bad things.

Originally posted by emptyOmind
reply to post by Maslo

 

ok well that still makes them different so my point is don't act like their the same. not all muslim's are bad people, i'm sure the majority of the people who support this law aren't bad people, they are just following their faith.

Also, they may follow their faith, but this is not just following their faith, but IMPOSING it on others. I dont care if a muslim does not drink alcohol, watch porn or go to concerts. But when imposing it on others, these people are extremists in my view.

reply to post by confreak

Most have not even explained what the actual problem is, instead have used the original article as an excuse to spew their irrational, illogical rage and bigotry. As I said before, non of what is being discussed in original article is illegal, if it was, they would be arrested by now? Right?

The problem is that Muslims (in general) refuse to integrate with Brits as many other foreign immigrants have done. But to be honest this now seem to be a re-occurring trend with all migrants. I see many, many polish people in my line of work who cannot say as much as please.

I put the blame firmly in Labours hands, they aloud wave after wave of migrants to come to England virtually unchecked.

The problem with extremist Islam is more of a social problem. In this world at this point in time the youth of Britain (no matter the colour or creed) have been completely forgotten, with no hope of success or progress these youngsters look to other sources for "love and attention" (or whatever else they are looking for). For example;

For young whites, they might turn to far right patriotism.
For young Asians, they might turn to extremism.
For young blacks, it might be gangs.
Obviously these can inter-mingle (white Muslim extremist for example).

The solution? The government need to give these souls purpose, I don't know how. I fear though that they (TPTB) will give they (all) purpose in the form of War. Just look at society pre WWII, its almost the same.

ALS

Originally posted by emptyOmind

Originally posted by Maslo
reply to post by emptyOmind

 

Muslim extremists ARE the same as Nazis. Both advocate breaching of basic human rights.

How do you call an ideology which is against women rights and personal freedoms, preaches censorship, stoning of adulterers, killing of apostates, punishments such as cutting off hands?
You are right, they are not the same as nazis, they are even WORSE. Nazi ideology did not even preached such things as killing jews initially, they only wanted to deport them or use them for labor. They started killing them only during the war, when it was clear deportation would be too costly.
Islamic extremism preaches that adulteres should be stoned from the start.

you are grouping people who want censorship of porn, and the banning of alcohol in their areas in the same category as extremists terrorists and nazi's. muslims who blow themselves up and the like are extremists, but muslims who want to ban certain things their religion finds immoral in their area are not

You have never heard of Muslims Against Crusades (MAC) have you? They openly praise the 9/11 and 7/7 attacks. MAC is Nazism in all its form and glory (?).

ALS

Will never happen in Scotland. Gangs of neds will start wandering through the areas looking to beat anyone up starting anything.

reply to post by woodwardjnr

People have been drinking alcohol for thousands of years,

And people have been subdued by people for thousands of years.

I don't say it without a reason, one of the first assassins(hashassins), gave their new subordinates hashish, then brought them to a garden with beautiful women and made them believe they were in paradise already. This made it easy for the new recruits to accomplish whatever mission.

reply to post by ALOSTSOUL


lol 65 flags and a truck load of stars for this, OP?

beezers right mate you lost
you submitted to allah's will

whatever happened to British Steel?
or Doctor Martin's Solution?

not worth a beating? oh well, with that defeatist attitude...

the wrath of allah? lol

the wrath of a broken bottle of Guinness would have put paid to that IMO.

or if you can't stomach that, pepperspray would have done for that lot of toerags.

f the gov and the coppers.
no offense intended mate maybe there were to many, but
as a descendant of Kelts you should have run them through with your dirk.

now that you know the streets aren't safe take proper precautions and don't let that happen again.

enough of these psychos turn up decapitated with a pork pie in their mouths and the body nowhere to be found, and this crap will stop.

waiting to see if you're just muzzie-bashing before i give out any flags though, if not then i'll flag for the effort and time to report.

reply to post by ALOSTSOUL

In the past this would have been my first coarse of action, but alas I have a child on the way I need to provide for, I can't be out of work for the sake of a £1.50 bottle of beer.

ah, well that is a mitigating factor then,
just remember that some action needs to be taken because you don't want your kid going thru the same or worse

looks like i'm gonna have to flag

these reports are important as long as a distinction is made
between extremists
and muslims who are too busy being good muslims, to be involved in such insanity.

F&S

"An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination." - Voltaire

reply to post by DerepentLEstranger


I'd like to see you fight 8 angry Muslims by yourself.

Try this, go to your local meat store and order a full pig carcase w/ head and leave it on there street, doorstep, etc with some fake(or real) blood poured all around. I can now say my neighborhood is muslim free only to have burmese refugees take over. Where have all the mexicans gone? I miss my amigos.
Show them you`re alot crazier than they think you are.

reply to post by yakuzakid


i'd like you to refresh the page and read the post immediately after the one you're replying to

that said if their combat skills are anything like the hooligans in the video

all i'll say is

8 angry thugs attack me?
8 blows.
8 cadavers.

i'm from Harlem and learned my 1st street-fighting lessons in 1st grade it was either that or no lunch.

it's more than fair to compare one extremist group to another - the nazis didnt start out by killing jews they just wanted to push them out of there lands it's just they stood up and took control and got more and more power and had less and less options or desire to do anything more than take care of there problems than by camps.

If you think for even one second a group putting up sharia law enforcement stickers wouldnt put every christian on the planet into a cattle car and set it on fire if they could your wrong. Of course they would they just can't...yet

I fully expect that in the coming years there will be outright war with these muslums on our own soil, and I have made preperations thanks to my second amendment rights, which by the way will never remove guns even if it were repealed. My daughter got a Mossburg tactical for her last birthday, and it was something I thought usefull, and probably needed. EVERY neighbor I have, has weapons and not just one or two. So carry on, we'll be waiting to start the muslum war, and after we kick their crawling evil butts and turn them into tree food, we will hoist a BUSCH LIGHT and have a pig-pullin BBQ with slaw and deserts.

reply to post by ALOSTSOUL


Distributing fliers and stickers is one thing (that's freedom of speech, you can distribute your own countering fliers if you like), but threatening someone who has a bottle of beer (if that really happened) makes my blood boil.

Whatever happened to live and let live ?

Imposing one's own views on others is extremism, period. Also, I believe islam doesn't require anybody to impose anything on anybody, just live by one's own beliefs. I really don't know where this extremism is coming from, or where it started. It wasn't like this before, this extremist/terrorist cr@p started in the late nineties.

reply to post by ALOSTSOUL


The answer is quite simple start putting up no moozelm districs, no burkas, no camels, and for god sake no goats. The minute you do this they will scream that your a islamphobe and a bigot to boot. Then when they come trhough your area you can throw pork chops at them.

Dude, Your British and you drinking BUD? Like as in Budweiser? WITH ALL THAT FANTASTIC ENGLISH BEER, ALE & BITTERS ABOUT??? If your gonna drink American beer and ale, at least drink a great microbrew from VERMONT! "Wolavers wildflower wheat Ale", yum, yum! Sharia law in Britain? Jeesh, only in America. (Ode to Yogi Berra)