UK Gets First "Sharia Controlled Zone".

Er, can you link a proper source of evidence please?

DailyStar 1. isn't a proper source, and 2. that link doesn't work.

Originally posted by Maslo
reply to post by emptyOmind

 

Yes, extremist muslims wanting sharia law ARE equivalent to nazis. Both want to enact laws that are against basic human rights. I dont mind moderate muslims at all, but I cant comprehend how a rational person can support islamic extremists wanting to implement sharia law in parts of Europe...

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okay, well banning porn, alcohol and concerts is not extremist.. and on top of that it doesn't justify comparing people who support this to nazi's.. we aren't talking about death squads and genocide, we are talking about strict rules in certain areas of town

I'm going to be honest, all this makes me chuckle some - since the majority of drug pushers, pimps and off licences around these parts at least are either muslim or run by them.

reply to post by Zamini

Once again, your civilization would CRUMBLE without ethanol.

Can you substantiate this by something?

reply to post by emptyOmind

okay, well banning porn, alcohol and concerts is not extremist..

It IS extremist. It is a censorship, its against basic personal freedoms, not to mention against the laws of the country they immigrated into. If you want to live in a country where alcohol, mixing of sexes, concerts or porn is banned, go to China or Saudi Arabia and similar totalitarian countries, not to Europe, we have freedom of expression here. I am surprised someone sane would support such blatant restrictions of freedoms, especially on a conspiracy forum.

we aren't talking about death squads and genocide, we are talking about strict rules in certain areas of town

I think thats also exactly what nazis told the supporters of jews rights, before the war. There will just be some strict rules in jewish areas of town, the jews will just wear fancy stars, lol..The genocide was suspected only in the second half of WW2, and fully revealed only after the fall of nazism.

just some polls take it as you will

www.guardian.co.uk... - 0% of British Muslims found homosexuality acceptable. - 3% found relations outside of marriage morally justifiable.

www.telegraph.co.uk... - 40% of this poll found Muslims wanting Sharia law in the UK.
www.dailymail.co.uk... - 75% of young muslims want women to wear the veil (or at least hijab) compared to 19% of adult population. As I’ve stated though, there are rather more concerning patterns emerging: 1) The extremist views of young Muslims in particular (aged 16-24)

www.telegraph.co.uk... These results are from a poll of Muslim students: – 33% claim that killing is justified if done to protect religion. – 40 percent support the introduction of sharia for British Muslims. – 33 percent support a worldwide Islamic caliphate based on sharia.
www.telegraph.co.uk... & www.dailymail.co.uk... These results are from Muslims polled (16 – 24) for Policy Exchange: -37 percent of young British Muslims want Sharia law in Britain. -36 percent of young British Muslims think apostates should be killed. -13 percent of young British Muslims said they “admired” Al Qaeda. 2) Support or Sympathy with Terrorism & 3) Conspiracy Theories www.guardian.co.uk... -According to a 2006 Pew Survey, only 17% of British Muslims believe that Arabs carried out the September 11th attacks.
www.channel4.com... -According to an NOP survey, 2007: -24 percent of British Muslims deny that the four British Muslim suicide bombers carried out the 7/7 attacks. -24 percent of British Muslims believe the British government carried out the 7/7 attacks.
news.scotsman.com... & www.ft.com...=false.html?_i_location=http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/3244cf90-2626-11db-afa1-00007 79e2340.html&_i_referer=
-According to Channel 4 Polls in August 2006, reported in both the Scotsman and the Financial Times: -24 per cent agreed or tended to agree that the 7/7 bombings were justified. -45 per cent think 9/11 was carried out by the US or Israel. www.timesonline.co.uk... -16 percent of British Muslims support suicide bombing in Israel. -7 percent of British Muslims support suicide bombing in Britain. 4)The denial of Islam requiring scrutiny, and the will to suppress free speech and criticism. ukpollingreport.co.uk... -NOP Channel 4 polling came out with these results: -33% of Muslims want Sharia Law as implemented in Saudi Arabia. -28% of muslims agreed they dreamt of Britain becoming an Islamic State. -78% wanted Danish cartoonist prosecuted. -68% want prosecutions for insulting Islam. -62% disagree with the freedom of speech if it insults religious sensibilities. -50% said British people who insult Islam should be arrested and prosecuted. -Between 5-9% say that violence to protect Islam is acceptable. -Whilst 10-13% found that they “understood” why young muslims might want to become suicide bombers.

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Oh yes.. Shocking muslim polls time!

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Originally posted by Maslo
reply to post by emptyOmind

 

okay, well banning porn, alcohol and concerts is not extremist..

It IS extremist. It is a censorship, its against basic personal freedoms, not to mention against the laws of the country they immigrated into. If you want to live in a country where alcohol, mixing of sexes, concerts or porn is banned, go to China or Saudi Arabia and similar totalitarian countries, not to Europe, we have freedom of expression here. I am surprised someone sane would support such blatant restrictions of freedoms, especially on a conspiracy forum.

we aren't talking about death squads and genocide, we are talking about strict rules in certain areas of town

I think thats also exactly what nazis told the supporters of jews rights, before the war. There will just be some strict rules in jewish areas of town... The genocide was suspected only in the second half of WW2, and fully revealed only after the fall of nazism.

edit on 11/7/11 by Maslo because: (no reason given)

so are you suggesting that there are muslim death squads committing genocide in the uk right now? that's an absurd correlation

and censorship is not extremist, it's the norm, check the television, radio, and every other form of mass comm and you will see it everywhere

also, sharia law isn't being imposed on the whole country

if you could step outside of your stereotypes and over generalizations for a moment you might learn something

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by ALOSTSOUL

 

Relying on the government is never a good thing. If it's up to the people, then good luck!

I've been saying that for ages.

He should have worn a burqa

At a demo yesterday in Middlesbrough, a member of the English Defence League was confronted by the police for wearing a face mask. He was told he was in violation of the law.

As the video below demonstrates, he wouldn’t have been in violation of the law if he had worn a burqa — or even better, a face mask made from the Black Flag of Jihad.

In that case, he would have been under the jurisdiction of sharia law, and everything would have been just fine.

There is a video in the link which is important for you to watch so as to see what happened. Looks like things are getting worse in the UK every day.

There is a big difference between people in an area saying they won't tolerate something and them having the power to enforce it. There are plenty of neighborhoods and even entire towns where this type of stuff isn't tolerated all across America, but because they are Christians, no one cares. All you'll get are some hairy eyeballs but no one can ticket you or charge you with a crime unless it is already an established law.

reply to post by emptyOmind

so are you suggesting that there are muslim death squads committing genocide in the uk right now? get real

There are not.. yet. But there were crimes motivated by religious extremism, such as honour killings.

and censorship is not extremist, check the television, radio, and every other form of mass comm and you will see it everywhere

There is some censorship of obscenities in television before 22:00. Other than that, I see no censorship, you can watch TV stations and buy magazines with almost everything imaginable..
Even if there was, it would be a cause to fight it and not try to implement more censorship.

also, sharia law isn't being imposed on the whole country

Strict laws in nazi germany were also imposed only in some areas of the cities, with predominantly jewish population, initialy. Once you allow those who dont respect basic human rights to create an autonomous state in a state with their own medieval laws, you are going a very dangerous road.

Should we have the right to make murder legal in my city, if majority of people wanted it?

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can you stop comparing muslim's to nazi's? they are not the same.

Originally posted by Maslo
reply to post by emptyOmind

 

Should we have the right to make murder legal in my city, if majority of people wanted it?

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come on! this is just ridiculous, these laws are not even comparable to murder! of course the answer to your question is no.

you are drawing parallels here that are not even within earshot of relevancy

reply to post by emptyOmind


Muslim extremists ARE the same as Nazis. Both advocate breaching of basic human rights.

How do you call an ideology which is against women rights and personal freedoms, preaches censorship, stoning of adulterers, killing of apostates, punishments such as cutting off hands?
You are right, they are not the same as nazis, they are even WORSE. Nazi ideology did not even preached such things as killing jews initially, they only wanted to deport them or use them for labor. They started killing them only during the war, when it was clear deportation would be too costly.
Islamic extremism preaches that adulteres should be stoned from the start.

reply to post by emptyOmind


So are we allowed to enact nazi-like racist discriminatory laws in my city, as long as we wont kill people?

Originally posted by Suspiria
I'm going to be honest, all this makes me chuckle some - since the majority of drug pushers, pimps and off licences around these parts at least are either muslim or run by them.

That is funny Suspiria ...what a bunch of hypocrites, all of them.

Originally posted by Misoir
He should have worn a burqa

At a demo yesterday in Middlesbrough, a member of the English Defence League was confronted by the police for wearing a face mask. He was told he was in violation of the law.

As the video below demonstrates, he wouldn’t have been in violation of the law if he had worn a burqa — or even better, a face mask made from the Black Flag of Jihad.

In that case, he would have been under the jurisdiction of sharia law, and everything would have been just fine.

There is a video in the link which is important for you to watch so as to see what happened. Looks like things are getting worse in the UK every day.

I sitll can't find any evidence that sharia law has been implemented in the UK. Can someone post some proof that Parliament passed this? Because if not then your just passing on you ignorance.

Originally posted by Maslo
reply to post by Bixxi3

 

Oh yes.. Shocking muslim polls time!

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I'm surprised at how low Lebenons stats are, I always assumed they were quite an Islamist nation. Its actually quite nice to hear.

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