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Originally posted by Xcathdra
Yes private security they can escort you out since its private property. If you refuse to leave then security can use whatever force neccissary excluding death to remove you. They can also detain and cite you for tresspassing. Resisting security in any manner wil result in more charges against you.
Your "rights" dont extend to private property that does not belong to you.
On a seperate note to a few other posters who think they know what they are talking about.
I find it humerous, yet not surprising, that while you guys think you know what your rights are and how they work (which you dont), and demand others resepct them, you guys have no problem at all jumping on the bandwagon along with Libertarians to arrest all TSA agents.
The question is for what?
You claim you demand the 4th amendment be followed when it comes to you, yet you have no problems throwing it out the window when it comes to dealing with people you guys dont like. People make comments calling them child molesters, thugs etc.
You guys demand the Constitution be followed, yet you have apparently no issues depriving TSA of due process, in addition to the presumption of innocence until proven guilty.
Not only is it sad that you dont know your rights or how the law works, its even worse when you try to claim the moral high grond while essentially behaving in the exact same manner you accuse the Government of doing..
Sad, ignorant and now hypocritical.. Whats even worse is some fo you will attempt to make a distinction between your behavior and that of the Government, doing whatever you can to argue your view is somehow different.
Whats even better is nothing will change because the bulk of you guys only have courage when you are behind your computer. Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and actually organize to change the laws you don't like, instead of complaining al the time about how unfair it is?
A day will come where your going to think you know what your rights are, and your going to get your ass kicked in the process by security and charged. Whats sad is you won't know why because you will be to busy crying over what you think your rights are and how they were violated.
You guys really are the pigs from animal farm. All people are equal, but apparently you guys are more equal than others.
Originally posted by 2012srb
Originally posted by Xcathdra
Originally posted by 2012srb
reply to post by Xcathdra
You speak as if consent to search is the equivalent of consent to assault.
Not at all.. There is a huge difference.
The problem is you guys dont know the difference between a search, a patdown, which is what the TSA does, and an assault.
You don't know what I do and don't know. Don't PRESUME to know me or anyone else here.
That is a very arrogant attitude.
As I stated earlier, in my state, what the TSA does is, technically, fourth degree sexual assault.
Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by jetlife
The TSA is not comissioned law enforcement, and because of that they are not subject to the same laws as commissioned law enforcement is, specifically when dealing with searching people and belongings as they pass through the airport.
Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by 2012srb
and im telling you that what the TSA does is not asault. Show your statute that supports your argument please.
Originally posted by 2012srb
reply to post by Xcathdra
If you need to fly, you have no choice but to be groped.
The federal government has instituted legal sexual assault via the TSA.
I don't give them consent to touch my breasts yet they do.
Fourth degree sexual assault.
Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by hawkiye
Uhm yeah.. Because they are not comissioned, they are not subject to the same requiremnets as law enforcement is. Which includes the 4th amendment.
If you dont want to go through the security checkpoint, dont fly.
Your choice.
Originally posted by Thunder heart woman
I want someone to explain to me why it's OK for me to be man handled, but a Muslim woman does not have to submit to the same thing.
I fly several times a week. While I don't think that this new security will stop every attack that is planned or attempted, I think it is wore effective than what was in place before 9/11.
Screen no one, or screen everyone. That is the only way. Screen no one and you will see the airline industry go belly up, as folks like me (who are the biggest slice of their customer pie) would not fly if they didn't screen anyone.
Of course you do, mr. Expert. Take notice of the mr. Expert guys. He flies several times a week so he must understand the laws just fine.
Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by jetlife
The TSA is not comissioned law enforcement, and because of that they are not subject to the same laws as commissioned law enforcement is, specifically when dealing with searching people and belongings as they pass through the airport.