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LulzSec teams up with Anonymous

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posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 09:49 PM
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So everyone who lives in Modesto has possible links Cloudflare and the FBI?

Keep in mind, I have not closed my mind to the possibility that LulzSec are an op. I'm operating on the assumption that they're not - but I still think they might be.

That said, the evidence you have been providing is incredibly circumstantial, and that fact that you're considering it conclusive only further hurts your case. I believe in credit where credit is due, and you've obviously put a lot of work into this research, but your connections are not as conclusive as you seem to believe they are.




posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 09:50 PM
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like I stated before I have done quite
a bit of looking into lulzSecurity
which is why I posted my thread
which Skeptic deleted.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 09:51 PM
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Check out my previous post.. I doubt they live or are located anywhere near Modesto, cali.. The number is just hosted and forwarded from there.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 09:53 PM
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Originally posted by TheStev
reply to post by boondock-saint
 

So everyone who lives in Modesto has possible links Cloudflare and the FBI?


lol

absolutely not, but when you place that info along side
the other info. there is corroboration on many levels.
the phone number is just 1 of many layers.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 09:54 PM
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Ok explain why they would hack game sites and what not and take request from other people and then forward calls to random business just for the fun of it doesn't fit the bill of a suit.. All these thing aren't needed if this was govt run to bring in a censored Internet :/



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by TheStev
reply to post by boondock-saint
 

So everyone who lives in Modesto has possible links Cloudflare and the FBI?


lol

absolutely not, but when you place that info along side
the other info. there is corroboration on many levels.
the phone number is just 1 of many layers.


Did you read my post it's at the bottom of page 2 it will clear this up



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 09:57 PM
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Originally posted by mb2591
reply to post by boondock-saint
 

Ok explain why they would hack game sites and what not and take request from other people and then forward calls to random business just for the fun of it doesn't fit the bill of a suit.. All these thing aren't needed if this was govt run to bring in a censored Internet :/


net neutrality legislation lobbying only works
if multiple sectors of society is hit with attacks.
Their attacks have to hit every one so lots of people
will ask for the legislation. This is the reason
for the many different types of sites hit.
It sways many votes in congress.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 10:00 PM
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Originally posted by Griffo
Was browsing twitter before when I saw this:


Lulzsec and anonymous declare open war against all governments and fat cats


You know what, if they would have added one word, I would have openly leagued myself with them.

"Corrupt" between "all" and "governments"...




posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 10:00 PM
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Even if it were, there are a lot of companies in SF. Contending that someone with a Modesto area code might have connections with a SF company by way of geography is almost the definition of specious reasoning!



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 10:03 PM
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Originally posted by TheStev
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Even if it were, there are a lot of companies in SF. Contending that someone with a Modesto area code might have connections with a SF company by way of geography is almost the definition of specious reasoning!


just found it TOO extremely coincidental
that the hacker request line goes
to an area code less than 100
miles away from the host server
CloudFlare.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 10:07 PM
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Originally posted by ADVISOR
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Originally posted by Griffo
Was browsing twitter before when I saw this:


Lulzsec and anonymous declare open war against all governments and fat cats


You know what, if they would have added one word, I would have openly leagued myself with them.

"Corrupt" between "all" and "governments"...



Lol isn't that implied.. cause all governments are corrupt..



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 10:09 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by TheStev
reply to post by mb2591
 


Even if it were, there are a lot of companies in SF. Contending that someone with a Modesto area code might have connections with a SF company by way of geography is almost the definition of specious reasoning!


just found it TOO extremely coincidental
that the hacker request line goes
to an area code less than 100
miles away from the host server
CloudFlare.


Probably cause they have the cheapest hosting.. I don't know I already told you that they are probably not even in California



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 10:16 PM
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boondock, for the record I respect your posts. I must come with a second set of eyes to the claims being made by you. Think of it like Jr admin noticing the server was unplugged as you were focused on a hardware fault.

Todays technology allows anyone to have a phone number from anywhere. See Google Voice, I have a second line for my side business. I selected the prefix to be the largest town in my state, though I do not live or own an address there.

As for where they are hosted, it's possible the ISP/hosting are not aware of the breaches in T&C and tho the govt may have a connection doesn't mean LS isn't bypassing (as they already have in some manner) their security protocols. Would warrant the LULz hehe

Just say'n dude, but who knows there could be a hardware fault and you had unplugged the server for a reason...



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 10:21 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by mb2591
reply to post by boondock-saint
 

Ok explain why they would hack game sites and what not and take request from other people and then forward calls to random business just for the fun of it doesn't fit the bill of a suit.. All these thing aren't needed if this was govt run to bring in a censored Internet :/


net neutrality legislation lobbying only works
if multiple sectors of society is hit with attacks.
Their attacks have to hit every one so lots of people
will ask for the legislation. This is the reason
for the many different types of sites hit.
It sways many votes in congress.

Lol but they only hit game sites and government run sites..
If they wanted to do real damage they should have hit.. Walmart, target, exxon, shell, apple.. Companies like that. That are high profile and bring in big $$$. Companies that would take the most elite hackers to break in to.. Cause well if its the CIA then you have the most elite hackers at your desposal
edit on 20-6-2011 by mb2591 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 10:24 PM
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Very well put sir



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 10:30 PM
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If anonymous and whoever are against big government and fat cats, lets see what they can do. Lets see if they dont manage to get the internet shut down for everyone. Lets see if thats not what they are trying to do anyway since they probably work for the government in trying to impose net neutrality.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 10:34 PM
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Lol yea well this is going to either end in no more net or revolution... I pray it's the latter cuz if it's the first might as well just use the constitution for toilet paper and enjoy our enslavement for the remainder of our time here on earth



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 10:35 PM
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Dont forget the banks.

Yeah, thats right the write ups say that the batman and robin
tag team are going to attack banks too.
www.myce.com...

And we cant overlook the importance of how sloppy lazy irresponsible the banks
have been with their customers sensitive financial information.


"five years later we've seen really no new efforts by any of the major banks to protect customers." www.reuters.com...


And why, why have the banks that got the bail out funds sat on their hands, making no effort to
protect customers idenities?

Why over a period of 5 years have they made "no effort" to protect customers?
Lets take a wild guess...


www.abovetopsecret.com...


I mean to say that every bank sells idenity theft insurance, right...so
what do they care if their customers are comprimised? They dont...as shown by
the lack of security on the banks websites, online banking etc.

As demsonstrated by some asute posters here on ATS, its nothing more than changing
a few numbers in the url, and blamo whamo your in someone elses account.

How far off is the Secure ID that the current Administration wants to implement?
www.abovetopsecret.com...

This is a total dog and pony show...nothing new, only with all of the threats, nothing has been
done to protect the innocent?
www.abovetopsecret.com...

This is a multi purpose agenda advancement.

A reason to implement Secure Online ID
and a reason to further advance the concept of central IDs, including
but not limited to RFID, which will be nothing more than a passive invisible mark.


edit on 20-6-2011 by burntheships because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 10:39 PM
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You may be right, and as I say I'm definitely still open to the possibility. What I'm saying is keep researching. It seems as though the evidence you've found so far has been enough to convince you - but it's not enough to convince many of us. Keep investigating though, if you are on the right track then you'll hit paydirt eventually.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 10:41 PM
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Haha paydirt.... CLASSIC



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