Are The Saudis Wrong To Ban Women From Getting Behind the Wheel?

Dumbest thing I have heard!!

Banning women serves No purpose.

If you wanna cut down on accidents and stupid drivers just ban the under 25's and the over 65's.

They are the real dangers.

Saudi Arabia is a dump, banning women...retards!

I am so glad you think that my job (a good part of my family's income) is so frivolous!!!
Did you drive to the store to get that beer???
I hope not!! That would be such a waste of resources, and with all that pollution that you are throwing into the air!!! gee, you must of killed a half a dozen kids with that trip!!
The fact of the matter is that I have driven less miles than a great majority of the people on this board has more than likely...and I'm twice as old as many of yas!! I used to walk just about everywhere I went, but well, my feet are a little messed up now, ain't walking anymore, sorry!!
tell ya what, lead by example!!! give up your car keys!!!!
by the way, don't know where you live, but here, all the taxis and buses are gas guzzlers, not electric. and well, they just passed new "cleaner" regulations on the coal generated power plants, and some of them are being forced to shut down supposedly, because of the cost involved.... so well, I foresee a time ahead, when the electric grid ain't gonna be able to keep itself together to power all these (I don't know, guess they're invisable cause I don't see many of them!!!) electric cars!!! oh, and well, the coal is here, the power plants that are closing are here!! they are just a hop skip and jump from one to the other!!! if they don't use the coal for fuel, what are they gonna use?? natural gas, wonder where the closest source for that is?? just how far will that have to be shipped from?? oil?? ya, let's hire a bunch of oil driven tankers and import it from the saudis... wind, water, well, then we are looking at all the crap that is put into the air from making the stuff needed to build the windmills and water generators...and hey, I know, if there ain't any river flowing where these plants are, we can just bulldoze the land and make a river for them!!!
I ain't walking to the bus stop, and taxi's are expensive, guess if hubby wants me working, well, he will just have to take off from work, drive home and give me a ride to work!!! ya, that will work for me, won't for the greenhouse gases though, since he works at the other end of town.....
If you don't mind now, I think I will stop this post now, call into that frivolous job and tell them I am sick...and well, take my gas guzzler and head up into the mountains, find myself a nice cave, become a hermit, and well, spend the rest of my days sitting outside my cave's entrance watching society self destruct!!!

Personally I find it totally stupid that women are protesting about not being allowed to drive.

Surely, if common sense were to prevail they should be protesting loudly and clearly that they are not allowed to go out without the permission of a male relative. Driving is totally irrelevant without first being allowed out of the 'prison cage' sorry, the home without asking first.

Silly women! Get your priorities right!

If that seems so grand, you should try living in Saudi Arabia...see if you can find a box of cornflakes in their markets. Probably won't though...since they're haraam. A country without cornflakes is not a country worth living in.

Originally posted by Dr Expired
reply to post by dawnstar

 

There are bus services and Taxis all over

it wil encourage the use of Public Transport services which are all going electric, I can see from a womens perpective it would be good not to work and have more time for the housework , and perhaps your Husband could get a joba as a cabdriver and he could drive you to do your shopping and get paid for it

In Saudi women are banned from public transport as well!

besides, current rumor has it that we aren't gonna overheat, but rather, we are going to go into an ice age, in which case we will need all the greenhouse gases we can get!! maybe we should reduce the legal age of driving to 10, and force parents to buy cars for their kids!!!

on a more serious note, got to tell ya something, any right that one is so eager to take away of one group (never their own group), is a right that might just be lost by all!!!
except of course, the gores and such, who will still be flying around in their private jets and living in 40 room mansions that are nice and toasty!!!
called in, told the boss that I was sorry, couldn't make it, hubby wouldn't get up to take me to work and well, I was worried about the green house gases and all that...
he told me to get my arse into work, that it didn't make sense, basically the same thing I said, that it would put more mileage on my car for hubby to run me in and pick me up than it would for me to just drive in....
guess I'll have to look for my cave another time!!!

If women were honest they would acknowledge most of the time they are driving for frivolous reasons?
How many women do you see during the day not working but driving to the hairdressers or shopping mall to drink cofee and such things?

Lol..really?

Is this really ( Really?!?!) your view on what us lowly women do with our superfluous cars?

Hilarious. It's like a bad sitcom.

It is not our business what Saudi Arabia allows half their population to do. In my view, tit is archaic and it is morally wrong, their treatment of half their people. However, if their people ( and they surely out number the royal family) do not DO anything about it, we must infer that the majority of them are happy with the way things are and thus it is not our place to intervene.

Is it wrong to ban women to drive? Hell yes, just like it would be wrong to ban men from driving.

Your idea, dressed as concern for the planet is ludicrous.

Honestly, the more I think about all the anti-female bull being spouted in Saudi Arabia the more I think that these dip# Saudi's are pissed off closet homosexuals. Same as in Iran with the dogmatic Muslims. What other reasons could there be for treating females the way they do?

I'm willing to place a bet on it even.

Um...yes! How would the Saudi men like it if they were banned behind the wheel? Sorry but a cliche generalization of "women are bad drivers" does not justify turning them into second class citizens.

reply to post by Dr Expired


Women work too, and those who don't, how do you think they carry the food shopping home to cook that meal that they're expected to make? What about mens driving to football games? Is that not wasting fuel and adding to pollution needlessly? The idea that women are contributing to climate change more then men by driving is insane

If you support this then in my opinion your in support of the subjection of weaker people. All across the middle east women’s rights are restricted, if not removed completely, and this is just another example of these backwards ideology being dragged into the 21st century. Have you ever heard the saying 'hill shodden and pregnant'? It means keep your women without shoes, locked away preferably up a hill so she can't ask for help and constantly pregnant so she can't leave you. Most people are repulsed by the saying I know and recognise it as wrong, but put it in a place that has no effect on them, to far away to consider then it suddenly seems like a good idea.

And supporting restrictions like this on the weaker aspects of society is a shameful nod in the direction of the subjection of all people who due to their birth are not considered part of the more powerful part of society.

Originally posted by laiguana
A country without cornflakes is not a country worth living in.

The Old American approves of this.

Yes, banning women from driving is wrong. This is a silly question. Here's a question:

Is it right for ATS to ban silly questions? I vote no.

/TOA

Dr Expired - I have one question.......

......... What version of reality are you living in?


Electric public transport? Men drive to work then come home and walk to the bar/casino? Men cycle more than women? Is this some alternate universe that only you have access to?

You talk about diesel fumes being dangerous to health... here in the UK our public transport consists of buses that run on the very same fuel! I don't know if taxis run on diesel or petrol, but I have certainly never seen an electric taxi. (Not saying they may not exist, I don't know - just saying they certainly are far from being "the norm").

If we stopped women from driving there would be half the amount of cars on the road? You are assuming that there is an equal fifty-fifty split of male and female drivers. Do you know that for sure?

So women only drive for frivolous reasons, do they? So me driving to work - thereby providing half the income that my husband and I contribute to the household, is frivolous - is it?

Finally - on the subject of the Saudi Arabian women, if they want to drive then they should be able to, but given that they're in "one of those countries" I fear they won't get their choice, at least not at a terrible price.

If you have such a problem with "pollution", then why don't YOU stop driving? ....And yes, persecution is traditional. I also noticed the OP has no problem insulting every woman in the history of creation, but gets all bent out of shape when one single woman calls him out on his bs. Sorry "Dr"...but your "traditions" have "Expired".

Originally posted by Elliot
Personally I find it totally stupid that women are protesting about not being allowed to drive.

Surely, if common sense were to prevail they should be protesting loudly and clearly that they are not allowed to go out without the permission of a male relative. Driving is totally irrelevant without first being allowed out of the 'prison cage' sorry, the home without asking first.

Silly women! Get your priorities right!

Totally agree with this statement those women are focused on the wrong thing.

Women drivers are a danger to pedestrians and themselves.
In a shopping area near my home here in England a shoe shop had a sale and put a banner in the window announcing the prices and the amount of bumps on the main road immediately outside the shoe shop went up dramatically. The thought of cheap shoes and handbags was enough to take their attention off the road and cause accidents. These accidents were minor but what would have happened if someone had wandered out into the road at the same moment a female driver was fantasising about the latest sling back with stileto heel!?
Im not having a go at women, hell, my mother was one, but they are far too easily distracted when they get behind the wheel of a car.

reply to post by txraised254


Revolutions generally start with a "small" issue.

reply to post by Dr Expired


Women in Saudi are also not allowed to use the bus. Just so you know.

Originally posted by Dr Expired


But it does keep the number of cars on the road lower than it would be.
Pollution is less than it would be.
Accidents are less than it would be.

So, you are kinda asking why shouldn't we implement this here?

Well, the number of doctors would go down, as all the female doctors wouldn't be able to go anywhere conveniently. Along with that, so would the number of biologists, chemists, engineers, Professors, etc (as a science major at a university, most of my Professors are women, and I'm not talking about baking classes here, but Organic Chemistry and Physics.)

In fact, according to this article, women are almost TWICE as likely to get a bacholers degree by the age of 23 than men! Link Who's just spending their time going shopping now, bee-yatch?

Out of curiosity what do you do that is so helpful to the world? If its nothing important, maybe you should give up driving and give your car to a woman who is actually doing something with her life. Just a suggestion.

(Okay, I guess you are probably just trolling, because I can't imagine that most of this isn't obvious to you.)

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Originally posted by Dr Expired
reply to post by g146541

 

Your right , I don't mind my wife driving when iam in the car as I feel it gives me a chance to correct her driving mistakes, and I can always reach over and grab the wheel if she is checking herself out in the mirror as a car is looming quickly in front of us.
Just with a carbon tax looming it would be great way to help the environment , by halving the number of vehicles on the road.
Sometimes radical solutions are needed in order to protect the atmosphere.
The Saudis are adamant they won't allow women to drive ,and they are a very rich and clean country.
Its a possible example to follow?
But it would take a strong leader to implement the new law in the west?

edit on 16-6-2011 by Dr Expired because: (no reason given)

edit on 16-6-2011 by Dr Expired because: Removal of a bad idea.

Raises eyebrow, says hmmmmmmm,