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Religion, Sane or insane?brainwashing? Whats your take?,
Originally posted by Tahnya86
Ok so lets start with this, many religious people have told me that im insane for believing in ufos but...
...the incident at Mt Cinai which is a perfect example of witness accounts of abductions and the side effects that follow but this also makes me question the if the bible is a really a fraud.
Originally posted by Griffo
I think it could be considered as brainwashing; every child is born an atheist. They have no concept of god, or church or religion.
We don't know what pre-birth memories children are born with that are forgotten. It's impossible to say they are born atheist. You can say they are born without a church or a religion ... but as for the concept of god ... we don't know.
Originally posted by Tahnya86
I would like to start this topic by saying this is not ment to offend anyone this is just a examination, i will start off with religion and finnaly bring extraterestrials into the equasion.
Ok so lets start with this, many religious people have told me that im insane for believing in ufos but my reply has always been, "There is more evidence of UFOs in video evidence,ancient text and carvings and modern day testimonies and sighting then there ever has with religion" Which i believe is true, religion has only a small amount of things that state its presence but not its actual existance, example: A book that was magically written by who ever the author may be, church estblishments and a bunch of "followers" who "claim" they feel gods presence. In some parts of the bible the are discriptions of things to do with encounters that represent simmilarities to extraterestrial contact which in my opinion is just more proof that even religion has evidence ET's exist, the incident at Mt Cinai which is a perfect example of witness accounts of abductions and the side effects that follow but this also makes me question the if the bible is a really a fraud.
Brainwashing? Mental illness? or Willpower?
I would like to focus now on religous groups and Cults and technically they are cults, the definition is "A system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object" Which hence the worshiping of God and jesus and other religious figures that are idiolised in there practaces,Now fo rmany many moons "years" people have been worshiping Jesus and god with the hope he will come back for them, we have had many years of the apparent rapture or return of christ, but yet consistantly without fail, Nothing. yet some how they still keep believing that God is coming, i personally wonder how these people feel when this constant let down happens, its odd how the media and public doesnt say to these people "Well? what happened? where is God?.When we look at cults like Hillsong and so forth it makes you wonder what is going on, are these people for real? am i missing out on something? are they crazy? or do they just have immence will power to believe in something that isnt there? i think personally its desperation mixed with brainwashing and as scientificaly proven: the human minds imagination,daydreaming and dreaming fantasies stem from particular parts of them brain depending on the topic of imagination,meaning depending on the topic each scnario steams from a particular cortex,with people who speak in tounges there is a part of the brain that reacts when the act of speaking in tounges is performed but i don not believe this is because of this influence of God . Many religious cults require injection of income from sources whether it be there followers or a big investor who has been persuaded enough to inject money into a pointless scheme only to brainwash people by the masses, i think personaly if Charles Manson can do it and so can government agencies then who says that religious leader and there enthusiast can't, a perfect example or reminder of how religions convince people to donate money is Insane clown posses song Hallelujah, it basically states in the song how religious leaders like preachers, use examples of healing and ask for the money to do so or people invest in the religious establishment for the belief and miracles, but after this miracle is performed the person who has been "Healed" isnt actually healed and there never has been from my knowledge. .
So wheres the proof? I believe and so do many others who research ufology,not all,but a decent amount believe that "God" is of extraterestrial origin and there is plenty of ancient text to prove so, nepphalim, fallen angels, a smoking pillar of fire, theres heaps of examples, if you look at the photo from one of the NASA apollo landings there is a ufo seen in a photograph that appears of a bright red or orange fire like color, this seems abit coincidential whether its a real photo or not. The main argument here is is religion the most long lasting brainwashing delusion cult to exist in the history of humans? are the followers mentally brainwashed? insane? who knows, i dont believe speaking in tongues actually proves anything, you or i could mutter a bunch of words that make no sence just like baby talk does to an adult and say, i spoke tongues, the lord is in me! there is no proof to show scientificaly that there is a common gramma structure or index of definitions amoungst those who speak in tongues, What i mean is, like with english language the is a deffinition, a comminality with word asscociation or spelling, where as tongues has not definition refference, its all just babbling, is this not similar to possable insanity? ranting and raving?