Syria: Dead Protestors CNN video: Staged Hoax ???

reply to post by boondock-saint


Yep...I'd prefer a couple ambiguous pixels that may or may not be something on his forearm in a single frame over a clear picture of his forearm that shows it bare, too, if I were you.
Either way, a couple pixels do not a US SpecOps tattoo make. Even if he did have a tattoo, there's no possible way, in any frame of that video, to tell it's a US SpecOps tattoo. There are more tattoos in the world. I have a tattoo. I'm not US SpecOps. Or am I...?

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Originally posted by LiveForever8
Why wouldn't protesters be on rooftops?

Syrians protest from rooftops after army action
Women and children in the besieged Syrian city of Deraa chanted "God is greatest against the tyrant" from rooftops in the night after troops backed by tanks intensified a crackdown on the city, a resident said.
Reuters

Clutching at straws boon...

well it seems now u were grasping at straws.
According to this article update, they were
NOT protesting on the roof, they were taken
to the roof ALIVE and shot there.

Abazeed said members of his group, the Syrian Revolution Coordinators Union, negotiated the purchase of the two videos from a member of the security forces for 200 Syrian pounds ($40 U.S.) and put them on YouTube.

The incident took place in Daraa, which was under siege by Syrian security forces. Four of the men were working out of a mosque in Daraa, supplying food rations to people, the activists said. Two were the sons of Daraa-Abu Ibrahim, the man who calls for the prayers at the mosque; another two were his nephews, the activists said.

Syrian forces marched into the mosque and took the four men, along with a fifth unidentified man, to the roof of a neighboring building, the activists said. The mosque's minaret is visible in the background of the videos. The forces shot the men at point blank range, the activists said.

Members of the security forces took videos themselves, the activists said.

www.cnn.com...

men commit cold blooded murder and
sell the tape for only $40 bucks ???

they just keep bungling this story
with every telling of it.

CNN cannot independently confirm the authenticity of the videos.

Two activists with the Syrian opposition explained the incident. One is Abdullah Abazeed, an activist in Daraa, Syria, where the videos were apparently taken. The other activist, who spoke to CNN on condition of anonymity, is in the United States and helps Syrian activists post videos online.

Abazeed said members of his group, the Syrian Revolution Coordinators Union, negotiated the purchase of the two videos from a member of the security forces for 200 Syrian pounds ($40 U.S.) and put them on YouTube.

The incident took place in Daraa, which was under siege by Syrian security forces. Four of the men were working out of a mosque in Daraa, supplying food rations to people, the activists said. Two were the sons of Daraa-Abu Ibrahim, the man who calls for the prayers at the mosque; another two were his nephews, the activists said.

Syrian forces marched into the mosque and took the four men, along with a fifth unidentified man, to the roof of a neighboring building, the activists said. The mosque's minaret is visible in the background of the videos. The forces shot the men at point blank range, the activists said.

Members of the security forces took videos themselves, the activists said.

so there ya go

CNN is not claiming the video that was posted on youtube to be authentic, and they walked to the roof

Originally posted by boondock-saint


[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/fdd70f8e5688.jpg[/atsimg]

so can anybody tell me why a Syrian Army Soldier
would have a U.S. Spec Ops Tattoo on his right
forearm ??? But the CIA or a US Contractor would.

your thoughts ???

edit on 6/5/2011 by boondock-saint because: (no reason given)

Now, BS, I know you have said you have poor eyesight, but does it make you see things that arent there? Because where you have circle is .... nothing!

Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by jaydeePNW
How can you tell from that picture what tattoo that is?

I could ask you the very same question

Yes, you could. But the question was asked of YOU. And you havent yet explained it, so why dont you go ahead and do that?

Pathetic.

Originally posted by boondock-saint


well it seems now u were grasping at straws.

Ironic statement of the year.

Obviously 'gold level contributer' means nothing in terms of credibility.

the one thing that stands out in my view

is that nobody is wearing a helmut ?

for some kind of full alert situation,

i would think helmuts would be an advantage .... from getting killed themselves

after all, they killed "protesters" .... right ?

AND, the video says 4 police were killed !

now no helmuts ?

and the reporter uses phrases like

"it is understood to be"

and "apparently"

and "can't confirm"

etc etc.

too phony for me to believe.

and it looked like the soldier in question did not actually talk ?

so what exactely were we "hearing" .... dubbed audio maybe ?

This was reported a long time ago, but not given any notice. A lot of fake videos, and out of context videos came out from Libya, for example the famous "African Mercenary" reporting which all media outlets reported as facts, but then Human Rights Watch conducted an investigation proving the claims false, the HRW report wasn't reported at all by MSM, because then it would expose war propaganda, which is not the intention of major News outlets.

"In a statement to the Greek newspaper Rizospastis, he said that the videos broadcast by al-Jazeera allegedly from Syria are actually taken from events in other countries." (Source)

War propaganda has played a major rule in the past 3 wars, if Syria is next, then it wouldn't be surprisings. The thing is that NATO is stuck in Libya, the quagmire they got themselves in could prove to be worse than Afghanistan.

I suspect NATO believed it was much easier to invade Libya through its pawn (the rebels). But Qaddafi's intelligence of war strategy destroyed the original plan.

I don't think NATO was planning to send helicopters, nor was planning to send special ops in the front line. Very disturbing.

Here we go again.
More fakery to fool the sleepy sheep, following on from Egypt, Libya, Bin Laden etc.
We would do well to believe NOTHING that is reported on the MSM.
The take-over of the middle east is well on track, all without the need
for messy unpredictable real revolutions.
TV and CGI have really come into their own.
We need to focus on televisual FAKERY which has been going on
for decades and encompasses such monumental hoaxes such as the moon landings and 9/11.
We know when we see spiderman swinging through NYC on the silver screen,
that it is not for real and yet we are unable to get into our heads the extensive use of fakery in the
dirty politics of real life.
We are going down the tubes, being lead like fools.
There are a small few (all corporations, all politicians) against us many (ordinary decent people).
Will we ever fight back?
We are GOING OUT with a whimper!
Ignorantly.

reply to post by boondock-saint





That's an antenna.

*HUGE FACEPALM*

OP = disinfo!!

Nonblurred YT-video at 51imXKxPlic
Entitled (VERY GRAPHIC) Daraa- Bodies Shown on a Rooftop of a Mosque 6/3/11
I didn't embed due to very graphic; brain and gore..

Originally posted by confreak
War propaganda has played a major rule in the past 3 wars, if Syria is next, then it wouldn't be surprisings. The thing is that NATO is stuck in Libya, the quagmire they got themselves in could prove to be worse than Afghanistan.

I suspect NATO believed it was much easier to invade Libya through its pawn (the rebels). But Qaddafi's intelligence of war strategy destroyed the original plan.

I don't think NATO was planning to send helicopters, nor was planning to send special ops in the front line. Very disturbing.

I am so glad that you posted about Libya.
I do not consider it off-topic due to it is my
opinion both Libya and Syria are related
by the culprits behind the scenes of NATO.

And this story just came out about rebels
in Libya accused of torture and killing
prisoners.

www.cnn.com...

sounds a hell of a lot like Abu-Gharib and the
later on the Egyption connection and the
secret CIA torture chambers all around the world.
These are all inter-related based on motive
IMO. And it all leads to NATO currently.

reply to post by boondock-saint


When a video is given to a journalist there needs to be simple critical thinking before publishing it as fact.

1. Who recorded the video?

2. What does the video show?

3. How can we confirm anything shown in the video? For example a video apparently showing Syrian soldiers walking around dead bodies, the question is, how can anyone confirm that? Just like the Libyan situation of "African Mercenaries", the media outlets didn't ask the question "how can we confirm it?" rather posted the videos as facts.

4. How can we confirm whether the video is taken out of context or not? I ask this because videos showing soldiers just standing there, then we hear gunfire, then the news outlets automatically assumes the soldiers are shooting at unarmed civilians. That is a giant leap for mankind to make such humongous assumptions.

I have seen many similar types of video, a camera recording the Army just standing around, then you hear shooting, not showing who is shooting who, what is being shot at, where is the shooting coming from, then the reporter thousands of miles away says it was the Soldiers.

This is not journalism, this is clearly agenda based propaganda.

I PREDICT SOON that Nato will put in place a no fly zone in Syria
the ME revolution was a big setup plan to launch an attack on Syria and Iran
for the big final confrontation
coincidence that 2012 is getting closer .. NO

Originally posted by nakiel
OP = disinfo!!

Nonblurred YT-video at 51imXKxPlic
Entitled (VERY GRAPHIC) Daraa- Bodies Shown on a Rooftop of a Mosque 6/3/11
I didn't embed due to very graphic; brain and gore..

thank you for posting the uncensored link.
It seems as though not everything is as
it appears to be.

Upon further review, it appears these men
were assassinated at point blank range.
Their wounds appear to be consistent with
med caliber weapons and all shot in the head.
It appears they were lined up close together
and assassinated. There was no pool of blood
beneath one man's head meaning he was dead
before he hit the roof or either dragged to his location.

If this turns out to be true, then it is a war crime
on the part of the Syrian government.

thanks to all who have contributed to
the thread. I have changed my stance.

But as a last question, I still want to know
what tattoo was on the forearm of that soldier
with the black hat. There still appears to be
something there IMO.

Originally posted by Ben81
I PREDICT SOON that Nato will put in place a no fly zone in Syria
the ME revolution was a big setup plan to launch an attack on Syria and Iran
for the big final confrontation
coincidence that 2012 is getting closer .. NO

as expected NATO is taking out one Muslim
nation at a time. If they were smart, they would
all join as allies to fight the aggressor NATO.
But they are still considering it a local and or
regional affair which is a flaw in over-all
tactics on their part. Divide and conquer.

Originally posted by Ben81
I PREDICT SOON that Nato will put in place a no fly zone in Syria
the ME revolution was a big setup plan to launch an attack on Syria and Iran
for the big final confrontation
coincidence that 2012 is getting closer .. NO

Maybe this will help prove your point:

"interview with General Wesley Clark, a former US presidential candidate. The general names 7 countries, Iraq, Somalia, Libya, Syria, Lebanon, Sudan and Iran. The striking thing is that ll of these countries are in turmoil right now, except maybe Iran and Lebanon, but both Iran and Lebanon had their little interference, hence the Lebanese political deadlock, and the Iranian green movement buffed by the West."
Source with VIDEO

Originally posted by Kemal
reply to post by boondock-saint

 

That's an antenna.
*HUGE FACEPALM*

4 things make that NOT an antenna

1) the angle or azimuth of the array is around 10-15
degrees from horizon making it too low to receive
a satellite signal.

2) Fixed antennas do not have wheels attached
so they can be moved around on the roof for maximum
scope of fire.

3) Antenna arrays do not extend outward in excess
of 6-8 feet away from protection plate and also do
not come in identical pairs (double barrels).

4) These double barrels have muzzle flare
suppressors on the end to help hide the exhaust
fire while they are being fired. It helps hide
their position in a firefight. Antennas do not have
fire suppressors.

You suspect 'outside interference' in most of what appears to be a coordinated effort to alter the ME. It also highlights the dispicable values of the Western Media by its selective silence on some countries and shouting about other countries. Syria is being shouted about, but perhaps that is a little more about the fact that Palestinians are trying to breach the border from Syria into Israel and India has helped Syria a little with her weaponry. If other ME countries have also upped their weaponry, especially by both chemical and biological weapons the whole area becomes nastily armed and doubly dangerous.

Also any thoughts about Iran's influence on Syria pale when you realise Israel has had trade contact itself with Iran and the West would fare badly facing off both Russia and China over Iran, as no oil producer with the world's demands on oil production, should be put at risk of having their oil fields damaged.