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Obama Draws Line in the Sand with Republicans - Will Not Extend Bush Tax Cuts

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posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012


Instead of hiding behind victims, i think it would be a great idea to remove the socialist
in the White House and replace him with a capitalist and just watch the unemployment
rate fall to 5%.


Do you seriously not see how having tax-cuts for members of society based on their income is Socialism?

It's Corporate Socialism (a.k.a. Socialism for the rich). It's "redistribution of wealth" only this time it's being redistributed to the top.

You're either an elaborate troll or one of the least informed posters I've ever encountered on this site.




posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by hdutton
reply to post by Janky Red
 



What are you smoking ?

Do you share ?


don't know...

But it makes me want to vote for Palin!



posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by drwizardphd

Originally posted by Eurisko2012


Instead of hiding behind victims, i think it would be a great idea to remove the socialist
in the White House and replace him with a capitalist and just watch the unemployment
rate fall to 5%.


Do you seriously not see how having tax-cuts for members of society based on their income is Socialism?

It's Corporate Socialism (a.k.a. Socialism for the rich). It's "redistribution of wealth" only this time it's being redistributed to the top.

You're either an elaborate troll or one of the least informed posters I've ever encountered on this site.


Fee

Fi

Fo

Fum




posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:28 PM
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reply to post by Eurisko2012
 


You really need to unplug from those right wing radio talk shows. You live in a fantasy world

All the debt the federal government owes went into the pockets of the super rich. This is what free market deregulation did. On top of that fraud ran rampant under repub control and immigration was flooded into our country. Why should the U.S. middle class pay interest on loans that that poured fed money into the bank accounts of the super rich.

De-regulation only lead to wide spread fraud on Wall Street. Tax em up the wazoo until the fed gov debt is back to where it should be, and throw all the crooks in jail, and take away all of their illegal earnings.

Why do you love Wall Street fat cats so much? You should think about that.



posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:29 PM
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Pulling cash out of the economy and handing it over to the U.S. Government will only
make the economy worse.
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Raising taxes during a recession is stupid.



posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:29 PM
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You're either an elaborate troll or one of the least informed posters I've ever encountered on this site.


You deserve an applause for that.

IMO...Eurisko has to be getting paid for his posts and threads. People are actually paid to do it. And if he's not one of them, he has to be the most ignorant person on the planet....well..

BESIDES PALIN.



posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by Janky Red

Originally posted by drwizardphd

Originally posted by Eurisko2012


Instead of hiding behind victims, i think it would be a great idea to remove the socialist
in the White House and replace him with a capitalist and just watch the unemployment
rate fall to 5%.


Do you seriously not see how having tax-cuts for members of society based on their income is Socialism?

It's Corporate Socialism (a.k.a. Socialism for the rich). It's "redistribution of wealth" only this time it's being redistributed to the top.

You're either an elaborate troll or one of the least informed posters I've ever encountered on this site.



OH !!

I guess it really is true.

Crazy is contagious !

Fee

Fi

Fo

Fum




posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:31 PM
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Pulling cash out of the economy and handing it over to the U.S. Government will only make the economy worse. -------------------------------------- Raising taxes during a recession is stupid.


Do you have a book or paper that you are typing this garbage from?

Copy and pasting your favorite BS website?

Come on.

Everyone knows you are a shill. Your threads are usually garbage.

Eurisko's new thread:

SARAH'S GOT A NEW BUS.

WATCH OUT AMERICA!!!!




posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by Eurisko2012
 


You really need to unplug from those right wing radio talk shows. You live in a fantasy world

All the debt the federal government owes went into the pockets of the super rich. This is what free market deregulation did. On top of that fraud ran rampant under repub control and immigration was flooded into our country. Why should the U.S. middle class pay interest on loans that that poured fed money into the bank accounts of the super rich.

De-regulation only lead to wide spread fraud on Wall Street. Tax em up the wazoo until the fed gov debt is back to where it should be, and throw all the crooks in jail, and take away all of their illegal earnings.

Why do you love Wall Street fat cats so much? You should think about that.




Well, i was expecting that one.

When socialists get into trouble they ALWAYS run to Wall Street.
- Look at those fat cats!!!! -

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You are all so very predictable but thats OK. I needed a good laugh.



posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:32 PM
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reply to post by Eurisko2012
 


If you believe in capitalism, then don't vote for any republicans, they are all a bunch of communists.

Feeding off the fed gov is how all those red states survive.



posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:35 PM
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If you believe in capitalism, then don't vote for any republicans, they are all a bunch of communists.


Capitalist hiring their employees in COMMUNIST COUNTRIES. They love COMMUNISM SO MUCH THEY MOVED ALL OUR JOBS THERE.

Hypocritical....ya think?


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posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:36 PM
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You are the one who loves communism. You have just been fooled into believe that you support capitalism.

You have been tricked into voting for communists who handed control of the U.S. government over to the bankers.

Ah, but you love the fed res, when it is the biggest communist organization of them all.



posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:37 PM
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When socialists get into trouble they ALWAYS run to Wall Street. - Look at those fat cats!!!! -




How much do they pay you for posting this garbage?

You do realize the majority of Americans support the wealthy paying more taxes right?

Are you calling the majority socialists...communists????



posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:41 PM
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Yep, excellent point.

At what point in time do all the talk radio zombies wake up to the reality that they have been completely duped.

Repubs talk about reducing government, but they continuously increase the size of government, continuously increase the scope of the law over individuals, and do everything they can to eliminate the rights of the average person.

Free market pols claim to support market economics, but do everything in their power to rig the markets so they are controlled by a small group of elites, just like the communists.

And who is now our biggest partner,as you point out, China, a communist nation.



posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:43 PM
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Was Eisenhower, you know, WWII Supreme Allied Commander Eisenhower who became a Republican president in the 1950s, was he a socialist?

He created the country's largest infrastructure project -- the federal interstate system, which almost single-handedly launched America as a true economic powerhouse. Imagine a Republican trying to pull that off today, he or she'd be run out on a rail labeled a traitor and communist.

Under Eisenhower, the top marginal tax rate was....wait for it.....92%. That was for what was then the ultra rich. The burden on the middle class, however, was very small. Most of you might not remember, but a family whose dad was a school teacher and the mom stayed home could comfortably raise a family of four kids, buy a house, take vacations. In fact, a teacher was middle class. Today, a young teacher is almost among the working poor. In the 1950s, a good truck mechanic could raise a family, join the middle class. Today that man would be in poverty.

Even in my own history, in the early 1990s as a field technician pulling cable in offices in GA (hardly a top paying state), I was making $13/hr. How much does that same guy in GA get paid today? About $11/hour. Adjusted for inflation, his real wages are about 30% less than I made then.

In the mid 1980s when Reagan ruled, the average CEO pay was about 35x higher than the average worker. That was under Reagan? Was he a socialist in your eyes? Well today, that number is LITERALLY more than 350X the average worker.

Hmmm, so let's see. Over the past 20 years or so, the wage for the average worker has fallen, but CEO wages have grown, literally, exponentially?? And this has occured concurrent with the decimation of the American middle class. Hmm, something wrong about that picture. This has happened also concurrent with the closure of over 100,000 manufacturing facilities in the U.S. What has changed, hmmm? Somehow, those on the Right manage to take the preceding facts and then come with the cattywompus reasoning of "MY GOD THE TAX RATE FOR THE RICH MUST BE TOO HIGH"! Huh? No, the rich have learned to use the media, which is now part and parcel of the corporate elite, to brainwash you into thinking the opposite of reality. The fact is, the one main thing that has changed is the near elimination of corporate taxes and the radical slashing of taxes at the top brackets. What does America have to show for it? Where are the jobs? Where are the living wages?

Wake up you people on the Right, you are being fleeced by major corps who are becoming filthy rich off your backs. And you shill for them; you bow to them as your masters. You bite hook line and sinker their argument about "not raising taxes" on the rich, especially in a time of economic stress. You are so played you are proud to endure any level of pain under their oligarchial banner as they buy hookers, Maybachs by the dozen and 100' yachts. And anyway, what's the Right's argument for not raising taxes during a recession? Why, it will hurt job creation! Really, I challenge any one of you to show me the job creation by the rich over the 8 years of Bush's and now 3 years of Obama's tax cuts for the rich? You can't. It is impossible. Why? because all these mythical jobs that were going to be created never were. Meanwhile those cuts added $2 trillion to the national debt. But you wanted those cuts for the oligarchs, so why the heck are you bitching about the national debt now?

Crimminy, there is so little intellectual consistency or rational argument on this subject it drives me insane.

...by the way, in case you are wondering, I would consider myself somewhere between Goldwater Republican and a Sam Nunn Democrat, which today translates as a a good bit left of "moderate" person because the Right has fallen off the deep end. Old school conservatives have been replaced with religious zealots. And by the way, I wonder how many of you realize that a "left wing" Democrat would be considered a right-sided conservative in Europe today. Yes, that is how far right we have moved.



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posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by David9176
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How much do they pay you for posting this garbage?






That's the the beauty (if one wants to call it that) of the right-wing spinsters. Their followers regurgitate, word for word, all of the right-wing talking points...no compensation necessary...talk about mindless. Is it no wonder they despise the college educated.

BTW...

Left-wing talking points = facts
Right-wing talking points = lies & fear

...look it up!
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posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:47 PM
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This is exactly what the small businesses were trying to say two years ago.
Most small businesses plan 5 to 6 years into the future. They can not invest into uncertainty. Looks like they were right.
No one has the right to whine and moan to the small businesses and to tell them how and when to spend their money which is what the obama administration has been saying for a while now.
They can not plan in short spurts, there is no way to make a profit. Btw, profit is not a bad word. Profit...Profit...Profit! Capitalism

Oh I forgot another word..... The Constitution of the United States, lol, ok, six words.

Say those words to obama, he'd shreek!



posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:52 PM
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Eurisko...buddy...pal!!!!

4 pages and 2 flags 3 stars for your original post.

You think you might be in the minority on this?

Will you dispute ANYTHING I've stated????



posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:54 PM
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Raising taxes on the super rich isn't going to change the tax rates for small businesses.

Instead of the banking siphoning off all the money to the crooked execs, they will be forced to invest in capital, which will be a boom to small businesses.

This is a big part of why higher taxes on the super rich lead to economic prosperity.



posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:59 PM
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Eurisko!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You hate socialist...but you love that Palin!!!

Even though she forced the oil companies in Alaska to give every resident in that state a check based on their profits!!!

GO PALIN THE SOCIALIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh... I bet that is a mind blow to you right bud???
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