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Obama Draws Line in the Sand with Republicans - Will Not Extend Bush Tax Cuts

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posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by Janky Red

Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Originally posted by neo96
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PROFITS KEEP JOBS

yeah someone is full of bs.

if your not making a profit jobs are lost.


Socialists have a hard time with the whole concept of Capitalism.
Instead of prosperity i think they prefer fair shared sacrifice and a long unending recession.
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That sounds like Cuba!

edit on 3-6-2011 by Eurisko2012 because: (no reason given)


Corporatists have a hard time distinguishing between good business and fraud

Your corporatist friends started this recession with systemic fraud... Sounds like 2008



Well capitalism isn't perfect but i'll take it over socialism any day of the week.
I think we can all agree that raising taxes during a recession is a stupid idea.
Obama wants to do just that!
He better get President Bill Clinton on speed dial right now.



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posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:00 PM
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no they are better with money that you are.


Oh they are??? Since the wealthy have been buying off politicians for years...that seems to contradict the 14 trillion dollar deficit that everyone solely blames on Obama.



half this country not working and not paying taxes and getting paid by taxes is corruption .


Half of the people in this country, many who lost their jobs, homes, and their way of life are CORRUPT because they are unemployed or needing help to put food on the table????


47 million american with their hands out and not producing anything is corruption at is height.


Good, and why don't you go out and tell all 47 million of those people exactly how you feel about them hero.



and the bad guys are the lazy bums not the people who pay and make things for everyone else and who finances those lazy bums.


We must all be lazy in this country since WE DON'T MAKE ANYTHING HERE ANYMORE. Yeah, government has had to pick up the slack for the DESTRUCTION OF WAGES AND JOBS.....ironically because of free trade and lack of enforcement from anti-trust laws....both caused by the government. You attack the wrong people...you are attacking the victims and IT IS WRONG.


yeah smoke ass whatever and so much for civility.


Oh I'm sorry....I forgot you practice excellent civility here....calling the unemployed lazy bums and corrupt.

WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE PAL???



posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:01 PM
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Originally posted by hdutton

Surely, this will bring us as many jobs as we can ever handle.



A?!?!?

There have never been greater profits in the history of humanity, tell us why it has yet to work or bring us as many jobs as we can ever handle???







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posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:02 PM
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I think we can all agree that raising taxes during a recession is a stupid idea.


Right.,..you know what...let's increase the tax burden on the poor 100 percent and the wealthy can pay no taxes.

That's sure to create jobs right Eurisko???


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posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by Janky Red

Originally posted by hdutton

Surely, this will bring us as many jobs as we can ever handle.



A?!?!?

There have never been greater profits in the history of humanity, tell us why it has yet to work or bring us as many jobs as we can ever handle???







edit on 3-6-2011 by Janky Red because: (no reason given)


It hasn't worked because the rich are still paying taxes. I thought you had noticed as much.

If they paid no taxes and it still doesn't work, we could start sending them an extra million direct from the treasury.

Surely that will help them create some jobs !!
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posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:06 PM
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Some good news! It's about time! Good move, Obama. I've been waiting for him to do this.

Now... let's talk about discontinuing Bush's Patriot Act.


Great posts, David.



posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:07 PM
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If they pid no taxes and it still doesn't work, we could start sending them an extra million direct from the treasury. Surely that will help them create some jobs !!


LOL!!

The more they have...the more WE HAVE.

It's a great...GREAT plan!!
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posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:07 PM
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Pulling money out of the economy and handing it over to the U.S. Government will make
the recession worse.
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Like i said earlier, Obama better get President Bill Clinton back over to the White House
to bail him out......again.



posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:10 PM
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Pulling money out of the economy and handing it over to the U.S. Government will make the recession worse.


WHAT MONEY?

What are the wealthy buying???

CRAP FROM CHINA LIKE EVERYONE ELSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, that's creating jobs I'm sure!! At least they are buying crap from the country where THEY PRODUCE IT....CHINA.



posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:10 PM
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Republicans will cry about this, but this is something Obama is doing right.

We've had these tax cuts in place for years now. How are they helping the economy, exactly?

People seem to forget how capitalism actually works. It's all about the bottom line. You have these companies, they're making record profits, and they're not hiring Americans. They're either running their companies bare-bones with as few employees as possible and maximizing income (while hoarding it to the CEO's), or they're sending the jobs overseas where they can hire on the cheap.

Just because someone makes more money doesn't give them any incentive to spend it. Companies will not hire unless they absolutely need to. At the end of the day, the execs just want to make as much money for themselves as possible.

Trickle-down economics is a pipe-dream being sold to the lower and middle classes by the ultra-wealthy, and even in 2011 with half the economy in the tank, people are still dumb enough to believe it...



posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:10 PM
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Oh they are??? Since the wealthy have been buying off politicians for years...that seems to contradict the 14 trillion dollar deficit that everyone solely blames on Obama.


oh so obama hasnt been bought off by big unions pretty rich if you ask me. the national deficit was 9 trillion when bush left over obama has added 4.5 trillion dollars and is expected to reach 16 trillion by 2012 added the cost of obama care into the mix so blaming obama is the correct course of action since it is his watch and he has done nothing to curtial the debt and has done everything to add to that debt. so meh






Half of the people in this country, many who lost their jobs, homes, and their way of life are CORRUPT because they are unemployed or needing help to put food on the table????


and a large majority of those people never had a job to begin with and sit on their butts and collect unemployement insurance for their 99 weeks meanwhile the government just wont get the hell out of the way and makes things even worse for them.





Good, and why don't you go out and tell all 47 million of those people exactly how you feel about them hero.


yeah i would but you can guarantee the majority if not all are democrats and just love their free ride and free money foots on the blood and backs of others all for their votes for the king obama

yeah try to take free money away from the slugs of this country they would rather gut me but sure i would.





We must all be lazy in this country since WE DON'T MAKE ANYTHING HERE ANYMORE. Yeah, government has had to pick up the slack for the DESTRUCTION OF WAGES AND JOBS.....ironically because of free trade and lack of enforcement from anti-trust laws....both caused by the government. You attack the wrong people...you are attacking the victims and IT IS WRONG.


and why is that big government stooges and who wont get the hell out of the way for anything and the total and complete and systematic destruction of the wealth creation of this country. people like you created this mess and you constantly try to add to it.





Oh I'm sorry....I forgot you practice excellent civility here....calling the unemployed lazy bums and corrupt. WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE PAL???


yeah i am the guy who tried to stay on topic instead of just go on a rant and insult anyone who disagree with my thoughts.

i am the guy who didnt try to make this thread about a poster unlike you.



posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
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Some good news! It's about time! Good move, Obama. I've been waiting for him to do this.

Now... let's talk about discontinuing Bush's Patriot Act.


Great posts, David.


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The Patriot Act will be here until al Qaeda is destroyed.
Don't you remember a few months ago?
Obama folded then and he will fold again.



posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:11 PM
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Tax increases on the super rich worked great in the nineties, and even higher taxes on the super rich worked even better in the fifties, and sixties.

Eliminating the Bush era tax cuts doesn't go far enough. We should raise taxes on the super rich at least back to where they were in the mid nineties, but the tax rates of the fifties would be even better.

Then the fed should invest tons of money in infrastructure rebuilding, like they did in the fifties.

Free market economics is just another form of communism.

Time to return to market economics, and tax the super rich at a reasonable rate in relation to the enourmous amount of service they get from the fed gov.



posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by hdutton

Originally posted by Janky Red

Originally posted by hdutton

Surely, this will bring us as many jobs as we can ever handle.



A?!?!?

There have never been greater profits in the history of humanity, tell us why it has yet to work or bring us as many jobs as we can ever handle???







edit on 3-6-2011 by Janky Red because: (no reason given)


It hasn't worked because the rich are still paying taxes. I thought you had noticed as much.

If they paid no taxes and it still doesn't work, we could start sending them an extra million direct from the treasury.

Surely that will help them create some jobs !!
edit on 3-6-2011 by hdutton because: (no reason given)


Hell ya!!!

I am thinking my kidney will fetch some dough, maybe they will buy a $14,000 Bentley tire, I see the light.



posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:13 PM
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Eurisko...how about we eliminate minimum wage.

The poor are making too much money...the lazy bums!!!!!! They must be low lifes right Eurisko???? They are the scum of the earth right buddy???

Anyway, we eliminate minimum wage...this will surely create MORE JOBS RIGHT???? More profits will bring out more jobs!!!

We'll all be eating toaster shavings...but we'll have jobs...right Eurisko!!!!



posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by hdutton

Originally posted by Janky Red

Originally posted by hdutton

Surely, this will bring us as many jobs as we can ever handle.



A?!?!?

There have never been greater profits in the history of humanity, tell us why it has yet to work or bring us as many jobs as we can ever handle???







edit on 3-6-2011 by Janky Red because: (no reason given)


It hasn't worked because the rich are still paying taxes. I thought you had noticed as much.

If they paid no taxes and it still doesn't work, we could start sending them an extra million direct from the treasury.

Surely that will help them create some jobs !!
edit on 3-6-2011 by hdutton because: (no reason given)


Fawk it...

I am going to work for free, I can't wait

I will be murdered by raining coins and currency within seconds, charge $4.00 per pint of blood and sell
the meat for $0.32 a pound to Taco Bell.



posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:16 PM
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I'd like to ask you two(2) questions.

What are you smoking ?

Do you share ?



posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b

Tax increases on the super rich worked great in the nineties, and even higher taxes on the super rich worked even better in the fifties, and sixties.

Eliminating the Bush era tax cuts doesn't go far enough. We should raise taxes on the super rich at least back to where they were in the mid nineties, but the tax rates of the fifties would be even better.

Then the fed should invest tons of money in infrastructure rebuilding, like they did in the fifties.

Free market economics is just another form of communism.

Time to return to market economics, and tax the super rich at a reasonable rate in relation to the enourmous amount of service they get from the fed gov.


Oh, they tried that already. Don't you remember all the shovel ready jobs Obama was
promising all of us with the $800 Billion stimulus?
Instead of fixing bridges and building roads he gave coc aine to monkeys
and put pretty little signs along the road telling us our stimulus dollars are at work.
- Forget the signs! Give us the recovery! -



posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by David9176
reply to post by Eurisko2012
 


Eurisko...how about we eliminate minimum wage.

The poor are making too much money...the lazy bums!!!!!! They must be low lifes right Eurisko???? They are the scum of the earth right buddy???

Anyway, we eliminate minimum wage...this will surely create MORE JOBS RIGHT???? More profits will bring out more jobs!!!

We'll all be eating toaster shavings...but we'll have jobs...right Eurisko!!!!


Instead of hiding behind victims, i think it would be a great idea to remove the socialist
in the White House and replace him with a capitalist and just watch the unemployment
rate fall to 5%.
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We have to start someplace. Lets start right there.



posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 03:25 PM
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Instead of hiding behind victims, i think it would be a great idea to remove the socialist in the White House and replace him with a capitalist and just watch the unemployment rate fall to 5%


Yeah, he's a crazy ass socialist for wanting to return tax rates to the Clinton era.

Wait....taxes where higher before Reagan for DECADES. Grandma and Grandpa...Mom and Dad...they all must have been socialists!!!!!!!



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