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A Big List Of Suppressed Technologies Related To Energy. We Are Being Deceived Once More...

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posted on May, 30 2011 @ 05:42 PM
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I have a hemp field about 7 mile away from where I live. All you can see for mile around is hemp. Glorious, beautiful hemp. Of course, when I was younger we did not realise it was hemp, we thought it was... something else. What a big disappointment that day was




posted on May, 30 2011 @ 05:47 PM
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Yea, I had a similar experience driving through Kentucky, things were not as they seemed.

Man, the whole hemp issue in itself is enough evidence for me to continue being suspicious about these types of notions for suppression.

spec



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating
Anything an actual profit can be made of, you can be sure it wont be suppressed for long. Thats human nature. Thats why I quit believing in all this suppressed science stuff. The world is an extremely competitive place and if something comes along that is better, it will be used.


That is not human nature, that is capitalism. The competitiveness of capitalism is artificial. A system based on the hierarchy of power.

We could have gone in the opposite direction but certain minority powers, that have been around for centuries, made sure we didn't to their own advantage.

Our true nature is cooperation not competition. Competition is a lower form of cooperation, and we should be avoiding it as much as possible. But unfortunately it feeds the ego.



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 06:08 PM
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Agree with you all the way. It is however a minority that think the opposite. But what are the majority doing about it? We need more aware people, one spark can start a forest fire, one spark of truth can set the world alight with understanding! If any of you saw "The Prisoner" series from years ago, UK ( I am not a number I am a person)
thats exactly how I feel.

Love and Peace



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 08:06 PM
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"Someone who fakes research and their credentials in order to extort money out of gullible investors is a fraud."
Yes, you are very right. Now show me these people are fraud.

And please be objective when you write, the way you're writing does make you look like a disinfo agent, you don't want that don't you. You're supposed to attack arguments, not people...If you are to make such claims, it's alright, but you have to tell us WHY they are frauds, why they are laughable...You didn't do so...

And let met tell you something...I think it's the third time I'm saying this...can't believe I'm repeating myself like that but...JUST VISIT THE GOD DAMN LINKS! My link on Klimov as all the peer-reviewed articles and credible articles from credible sources you can dream of!

Seriously man, you're getting ridiculous now. I respect your opinion, I respect your work, but if you are not to look at the links I post, don't even bother arguing...
edit on 30-5-2011 by Gab1159 because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 08:54 PM
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Oil is bought and sold in petrol dollars. Imagine the financial mess that will occur when an announcement is made regarding a workable free energy device.



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 09:20 PM
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how many hectares of hemp need to be planted to replace current crude oil useage ?



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 09:43 PM
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There's no doubt in my mind that big business (especially OIL companies) works to keep competing products/technologies from impacting on their profits.

Minor though the following is, it gives you some idea:

We were selling a fuel enhancer (additive) on New Zealand's most popular auction website, when we received a TAKE DOWN notice. We were told it was on their 'banned' list, but upon checking we couldn't find any reference to a product like ours being banned. We called customer service (cost $1.99 per min) and eventually learned that they were pressured by a major oil company to REMOVE any products like ours, that claimed to increase the mileage of your vehicle.

Regardless of the fact that the product has had over 15 years rigorous testing and backup proof, they buckled to the pressure of BIG OIL. Couldn't have you SAVING (buying less fuel) could they



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 09:48 PM
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All this suppression is disgusting but understandable. A logical and economical source of clean energy would result in better quality of life, which is no good for those who seek to control us.



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 01:27 AM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating
Anything an actual profit can be made of, you can be sure it wont be suppressed for long. Thats human nature. Thats why I quit believing in all this suppressed science stuff. The world is an extremely competitive place and if something comes along that is better, it will be used.


That's like saying if all diseases could be cured they would, because such drugs would make profits. Sure, they would, but they won't see recurring profits that they do from "treating" illnesses.

Free or dramatically cheap energy is not really an evergreen profit system. It's short term and no serious person would take it on.



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 01:52 AM
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And yet you can buy
One of these

Oil company pressure to suppress?
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posted on May, 31 2011 @ 02:03 AM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating
Anything an actual profit can be made of, you can be sure it wont be suppressed for long. Thats human nature. Thats why I quit believing in all this suppressed science stuff. The world is an extremely competitive place and if something comes along that is better, it will be used.


wow i guess its ur job to poke a stick at somthing like this. all i got to say is if free energy hence the name free was not out when it was first thought up and implemented because no money in it what do u call that? for being a mod u sure know how to light a fire. but i spose that was the point.



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 03:56 AM
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I cannot really see why this list shows us why 'we are being deceived again'
All i see there is a compilation of concepts which does not make it to the market for a couple of reasons.

The normal way to get some 'new and brilliant' technology working will be finding sponsors to have money for such a concept.
Now as we see there's not much profit in sight or the whole setup is more or less doubtful the concept will be buried.
Since our entire society is so much into business you can expect that BRILLIANT ideas will not be on this list, cause someone saw a chance to make money from it.
Conversely the not so brilliant ideas make you believe we are being deceived .. ah come on

This is a free country, pick the idea up and develop it if you think its brilliant, maybe you learn your lesson the very moment you realize why others let go of that specific idea earlier.

Authorities in this country are more than helpful in getting you started. And won't stop you working on this as long as you manage not to be a too large thread to ppl and the environment here.



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 05:34 AM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating
Anything an actual profit can be made of, you can be sure it wont be suppressed for long. Thats human nature. Thats why I quit believing in all this suppressed science stuff. The world is an extremely competitive place and if something comes along that is better, it will be used.


Except... If something comes along that threatens the profit of Big Oil...You KNOW They're going to suppress it if They can - and They seem to be able to. Also, They will suppress any tech that offers effectively infinite energy (plenum - "dark"/Zero Point/Radiant/Orgone/... - energy) because, as money merely represents meaningful energy expended, money itself would become unnecessary, stripping power over others from the elite and giving all autonomous power over Self.

Given these factors, to assume that there is no energy extraction methods that are suppressed is rather naive at best. To be sure, every effort to suppress these techniques is made.



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 05:49 AM
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Originally posted by john_bmth



I just reinforces my belief that science is heavily controlled and monitored by TPTB, be it oil companies, government agencies, etc. Even if 3-4 of these inventors would be proven frauds, I think the amount of evidence presented there is simply too big to ignore it.

People who make such statements know nothing of science, scientific method or how scientific findings get published. Not only that, but we're not talking about "3-4 proven frauds", they're ALL frauds, or at best delusional (like our friend on this very site who sincerely believes he has invented a working time machine, ant-gravity device and free energy device, as well as other unsubstantiated claims). Cranks and fraudsters whose motives range from misguided to down-right nefarious (and you have the cheek to call 'science' the big bad guy).


That's rather presumptuous of You, to state They are "ALL frauds." I know for a fact that electrogravitics was being worked on in the 1950's and went into black ops in late 1959 or early 1960. My father, a CalTech grad and Electrical Engineer, worked for one of the leading aerospace contractors involved in electrogravitics (EG). He would come home and try to teach His toddler (Me) how EG worked and described the future EG would bring:

EG creates antigravity AND overunity. Dad described floating cars, houses and cities. He told Me of abundant energy. And then one night He came home and woke Me up to tell Me We couldn't talk about it anymore - "They want it secret for now."

That was 50+ years ago. I am sure black ops has some awesome R&D relative to EG.

If You believe ALL such work is fraud, You have bought the lie They sell Us.



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 05:54 AM
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Originally posted by Griffo
Oh really? Why then has China just pledged to train ~2,000 new nuclear experts in the hope of discovering fusion?


Possibly because They know the intimate link between money and energy - and want to maintain control that the money system affords Them. So nuclear energy (being meter-able) is the preferred method.


Despite what a lot of people think, institutions the world over are racing to find some way to commercialise technology that seems too good to be true: cheap, almost unlimited power with no harmful emissions


This may be so...but add one last element to that list: cheap, almost unlimited power with no harmful emissions - that can be metered.



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 05:59 AM
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Originally posted by TMJ1972
The normal way to get some 'new and brilliant' technology working will be finding sponsors to have money for such a concept.
This guy Richard Willis makes it look pretty easy to get money.

Dragon's Den - Vorktex MagnaCoaster Power Generation

He doesn't even dress up a little, he presents his overunity device to investors dressed in Tshirt, yet he gets financing on the spot, contingent of course, on the device actually doing what he claims (18 watts in, 50,000 watts out). My guess is, like so many others in this field, he's fallen victim to nuances in measurements that electrical engineers understand but untrained experimenters don't understand. As the video says, there's an 80% chance the guy is nuts, or a 20% chance he's very rich. My estimation is a little different, there's a 99% chance he's making some mistakes in how he makes his measurements.

The only thing I see being suppressed is some people's use of their own brainpower. If you have a device that works, as this guy demonstrates there will be plenty of money to finance your project. The only problem I see, is that the devices so far don't work. This applies to the devices in the OP or any other device I've seen or heard of. That doesn't mean I think vacuum energy is impossible, but I just haven't seen any credible demonstration or concept so far.

Regarding the claims about Victor Klimov, where are the 200% efficient solar cells? I don't see anyone suppressing him. On the one hand people claim he's being suppressed but in stark contradiction there are articles all over the internet about it, so the suppression claims have no credibility where Klimov is concerned.

Solar cell efficiency is typically pretty low, even 95% efficiency would be considered a breakthrough.

www.rpc.com.au...

The typical Solar Panel today achieves between 10% and 15% conversion. The theoretical maximum efficiency of a silicon cell is about 21%. Using a more costly technology 31% conversion has been achieved.
So just tell me, why can I find so many articles about it if it's being suppressed?
Where are the 200% efficient solar cells?
If I can get even 95% efficient solar cells I'd be pretty pleased, if they don't cost a fortune.



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 06:14 AM
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Could anyone point me to evidence that Nikola Tesla ever
proposed a viable "free energy" system ??

I have been a student of Tesla for approximately 30 years
and have read every piece of material on him that was not
written by some unsourced retard and there is nothing in
his work that indicates he was creating a "free energy"
system.

The proposed wireless transmission system would have
required a power company to supply transmitters and
receivers and the system would have been metered.

Nikola Tesla was one of the greatest geniuses of all time
but the wireless transmission system at Wardenclyff was
never intended to be any kind of "free energy" system.

He did postulate that "one day" mankind would draw
power "from the very wheel works of the universe" but
saying something would happen "one day" is much
different than being able to provide "free energy".

If anyone can provide a credible source for a Tesla
designed "free energy" system I would be most
interested to see it.



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 06:16 AM
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Originally posted by Shadowalker
Do I believe that multiple different forms of free energy exist? yes. yes I do.

But the bottom line is.......nothing in this life is free. Even if the concept can be sold, it will require infrastructure and that doesn't come free. Even if you purchase a one time device.....its still not free.

If your free energy device is bought by your parents at the time of your birth, and it cost them $15,000. And you live to be 75, and it never breaks or needs replacement.......

It still cost $200 a year for life.

If it breaks or needs replaced every 15 years.......at 75yrs old, it cost $75,000.


So you see the whole crock of free energy......well its all BS. Sorry to break the bad news.


Well it turns out that if effectively infinite energy is added, the need for money dissipates and so too does the control of Others it allows. So if Your parents bought a $15,000 energy extraction item when You were born, by the time You grow up, money would mean nothing and You would have autonomous control over Yourself.

This is a main reason why overunity is suppressed. With overunity comes a removal of Their power over Us.



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 06:20 AM
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that vid [ dragons den ] was uploaded on 14th december 2008 - where is it now ?



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