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Did you just make up that Latin sounding name for them?
Originally posted by adeclerk
Originally posted by TheRealMrX
According to all United States federal government organizations, chemtrails do not exist and/or are a conspiracy theory. They say the white lines in the sky stretching from horizon to horizon are normal jet contrails.
Yes, only contrails exist. Are you paid by carnicorn to spread this crap?
Originally posted by TheRealMrX
Somehow, I assume using theoretical physics, these contrails can first appear as small white lines high in the sky then, over the course of hours, expand as they float down to earth first creating small clouds and finally a haze.
Wrong, they are made of the same thing as clouds (ice crystals) and so they can persist just as a cloud does. The haze is from fronts coming in bringing in more clouds (the contrails stay in the air because the conditions are right for the clouds AND the contrails, hence why it gets hazy).
No need to debunk the rest, you have only read information pertinent to chemtrails. Have a read at www.contrailscience.com.
Originally posted by TheRealMrX
reply to post by sonnny1
Ok, so you don't think chemtrails are real. How revolutionary! Maybe this site isn't the best place to do your research being that it is infested with deniers.
Originally posted by TheRealMrX
reply to post by Rhodin
I think there are very powerful people in our society who are completely consumed by evil and at certain times, they and their minions can become successful at carrying out something as inhuman as chemtrails. The purpose of it may not even be population reduction; although there is evidence for that. I have also heard the idea that chemtrails are sprayed for intelligence purposes because they create a dust on everything that makes high tech surveillance equipment work.
Just the fact that there are so many disinfo shills like you prove to me they do exist. I now know for sure . thanx for giving up your positon so easily.
Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by TheRealMrX
Everything there (and, the same post you made at the "DiscloseTV" site) is nothing more than the same load of rubbish that every "chem"-trail site spews, in the Internet.
This is nothing new, as far as *claims* being made, and there is ZERO evidence, anywhere, to support any of it.
Living in San Rafael......wonder, you don't know ATS member "MathiasAndrew", by any chance?? Seems to me, he might live up in your neck of the woods......IIRC.
I am really quite a bit embarrassed.....you even bothered the San Rafael City Council, with this?? I mean, it's one thing, anonymously online....but, to show one's face in public, with this? I think there is some under-estimating of the intelligence of people....but, of course, there also are the ever-present gullible sorts..........
edit on Sun 29 May 2011 by weedwhacker because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by gunner50cal
Just the fact that there are so many disinfo shills like you prove to me they do exist. I now know for sure . thanx for giving up your positon so easily.
Originally posted by GobbledokTChipeater
You "non-chemtrailers" act like the government doesn't have any secrets.
You "non-chemtrailers" act like the government is 100% transparent.
You "non-chemtrailers" act like you know the existence (or non-existance) of every ongoing 'secret' project.
You "non-chemtrailers" act like somebody should know every little detail of something before commenting (even down to names of people).
You "non-chemtrailers" set unrealistic expectations while having extremely low expectations of yourselves.
You "non-chemtrailers" aren't worth my time
ir.library.oregonstate.edu...
Ice-supersaturation in the upper troposphere has long been inferred from the observation of long-lasting aircraft contrails in otherwise clear air [e.g., B rewer,1 946], but only recently has instrumentation been capable of accurately measuring ice-supersaturation from aircraft at cold temperatures.
Some degree of ice-supersaturation must have been present in the clear air to maintain the contrail, but a higher ice supersaturation must be required to produce ice crystals from the ambient aerosol population.
www.nature.com...
Global radiative forcing from contrail cirrus
Contrail cirrus initially form behind cruising aircraft as line-shaped contrails and transform into cirrus-like clouds or cloud clusters in favourable meteorological conditions, occasionally covering large horizontal areas. They have been tracked for up to 17 h in satellite observations. They remain line-shaped, and therefore easily distinguishable from natural cirrus, for only a fraction of their lifetime.
Contrail cirrus are composed of ice crystals that—similarly to natural cirrus—reflect solar short-wave radiation and trap outgoing long-wave radiation
Contrail cirrus form and persist in air that is ice-saturated, whereas natural cirrus often require high ice supersaturation to form. This implies that in a substantial fraction of the upper troposphere, contrail cirrus can persist in supersaturated air that is cloud-free, thus increasing high cloud coverage.
"SUCCESS"("Subsonic aircraft: Contrail and Cloud Effects Special Study" experiment)
"FIRE-II" (the “First ISCCP Research Experiment, Phase II”)
Yeah. Debunk it! Get off your rear end and find me a federal government agency that admits chemtrails are real. I'd be very interested to know who they are.
Originally posted by TheRealMrX
reply to post by phishyblankwaters
What's there to learn? Contrails are simple. They evaporate in under 2 minutes.
The chemtrail phenomenon is complex, so that is what I write about here.
Deniers like you try to confuse the issue with nonsense like this.