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posted on May, 30 2011 @ 09:13 PM
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This is a quote from Wikipedia:

The "turbojet", was invented in the 1930s, independently by Frank Whittle and Hans von Ohain. The first turbojet aircraft to fly was the Heinkel He 178 prototype of the German Air Force, the Luftwaffe, piloted by Erich Warsitz on August 27, 1939.[2]
The first flight of a jet engined aircraft to come to popular attention was the Italian Caproni Campini N.1 motorjet prototype that flew on August 27, 1940.[3] Test pilot Major Mario De Bernardi of the Regia Aeronautica was at the controls. It was the first jet aircraft recognised by the Fédération Aéronautique Internationale (at the time the German He 178 program was still kept secret). Campini had proposed the motorjet in 1932.

Your article is from 1921 which was BEFORE JET AIRPLANES. May I suggest that some sort of chemicals were being sprayed?




posted on May, 30 2011 @ 09:17 PM
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I believe we DO need to exchange writings about this. This is the Infowar, AND I AM WINNING!!!



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 09:19 PM
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Originally posted by TheRealMrX
reply to post by Frater210
 

I believe we DO need to exchange writings about this. This is the Infowar, AND I AM WINNING!!!


Okay I see, you watch that fearmonger Alex Jones, so your mind is impervious to logic, reason, and basic science.



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 09:22 PM
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Oh, well.......if THIS indicates your level of *research* then......:



Your article is from 1921 which was BEFORE JET AIRPLANES. May I suggest that some sort of chemicals were being sprayed?


Man, you need some good learnin'....and fast!!



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 09:23 PM
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We have skyrocketing rates of alzheimer's disease. My OP consisted mainly of documentation. No, that book wasn't proved a hoax. Yes, the people spraying the chemtrails are idiots. Anything else?



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by TheRealMrX
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We have skyrocketing rates of alzheimer's disease. My OP consisted mainly of documentation. No, that book wasn't proved a hoax. Yes, the people spraying the chemtrails are idiots. Anything else?


Source? Has the rate increased or have we just become better at diagnosing Alzheimer's? Do you understand critical thinking, causal relationships, or the scientific method?



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by TheRealMrX
reply to post by Uncinus
 

Your article is from 1921 which was BEFORE JET AIRPLANES. May I suggest that some sort of chemicals were being sprayed?



You may - and you may therefore continue to prove your ignorance of the matter.

What makes you think contrails have to come from jet aeroplanes??


edit on 30-5-2011 by Aloysius the Gaul because: add video



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 09:26 PM
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You don't suppose that increasing Alzheimer diagnoses have anything to do with the fact that the population is getting older do you? Nah, couldn't be.




posted on May, 30 2011 @ 09:28 PM
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reply to post by weedwhacker
 

Aren't F-16's those planes that the Blue Angels fly? Yeah, I've seen em making red white and blue trails!



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 09:30 PM
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posted on May, 30 2011 @ 09:40 PM
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Wow! Look at that! There's stuff coming out of the back of those airplanes! So, you're telling me that the stuff trailing out of these airplanes is exhaust from the propeller engines which turns into clouds. Sounds a little far fetched, but ok. I'm not an expert on this particular type of plane, but it looks to me like the kind which might have the ability to spray stuff like F-16's do. Being that the shot never gets wide enough to tell if the emissions are persisting, I would say this video is pretty inconclusive.



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 09:42 PM
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Wow! That sounds like a pretty involved conspiracy!



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 09:42 PM
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Aren't F-16's those planes that the Blue Angels fly?


NO.

Thunderbirds. F-16s.

Blue Angels ---- F-18s

See....this is why you need to listen, read and learn.....not just from me (though it's obvious I know a LOT more about many things, than you)....but, from the others who I know, also know a LOT.....

Oh, and the smoke equipment for airshow performances.....that is NOT standard equipment on every fighter....nor, on any airplane.

And, it IS smoke. Oil-based fluid, getting hot, and making smoke. Ever seen a car with a bad oil leak? Where the oil drips onto the hot, hot exhaust pipes or muffler??



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by TheRealMrX
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
 

Wow! That sounds like a pretty involved conspiracy!



Seems liek a prety simple one actually - just 1 link, a clear purpose, proveable data on coal pollution....what is "involved" about it?


And how about commenting on my ability to be satisfied by evidence?

Sorry I inserted the P-51 contrails after yuo made some posts - but you can comment on piston engined planes making contrails too now....and perhaps you'd like to clarify why it is you think contrails can only last 2 minutes while you are at it??



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 09:45 PM
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I guess that's why both of the films 'What in the World Are They Spraying?' and 'Aerosol Crimes' are and always have been available COMPLETELY FREE OF CHARGE and the filmmakers encourage people to make copies and distribute them IN ANY WAY THEY WISH. If one is looking to get rich, that doesn't sound like a very good business plan.



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 09:47 PM
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If you are so interested in all of that, maybe you should go do some research and get back to me.



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 09:47 PM
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if they are only contrails and not chemtrails why dont we see them everyday? why do we see them only on certain days or only certain hours of the day when it does happen? if the temperature is a steady 90 degrees all week you cant tell me its due to tempterature change and making ice crystals some days and them some days not. If you ask me the inconsistancy of these trails is in fact the smoking gun



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by TheRealMrX
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
 

Wow! Look at that! There's stuff coming out of the back of those airplanes! So, you're telling me that the stuff trailing out of these airplanes is exhaust from the propeller engines which turns into clouds. Sounds a little far fetched, but ok. I'm not an expert on this particular type of plane, but it looks to me like the kind which might have the ability to spray stuff like F-16's do. Being that the shot never gets wide enough to tell if the emissions are persisting, I would say this video is pretty inconclusive.



It shows contrails coming from piston engined planes - you said that can't happen at all - you didn't mention persistence


But there's lots of WW2 videos and photos showing massive contrail banks from large bomber formations that do show persistence.

the "stuff" is still just water (along with CO, CO2 and the othe usual combustion products - a bit of soot, perhaps some unburned fuel, microscopic particles of metals, oil, etc) - it doesnt' matter what hydrocarbon you burn - it makes water - kerosene or gasoline are the same in this respect.



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 09:48 PM
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Yeah, you got me. I'm totally discredited now. Darn!



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 09:50 PM
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if they are only contrails and not chemtrails why dont we see them everyday?


Why doesn't it rain, every day??

What makes the difference, whether it rains, or is clear? Windy, or calm??

DO you thin, maybe, the atmosphere is always changing, always different? (Hint: That is what *weather* is...changes in atmospheric conditions. It is always changing).

And, stop using the temperature on the ground, as your 'reference'!! It is ALWAYS, ALWAYS below freezing about 24,000 feet...Well below......




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