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Originally posted by Sinny
4th of July, never mind celebrating independance from us British, the way things have turned out that was probably a bad move lol...but seriously i think you as a people need to become independant from your government...do some organising and start a revolution IMO
Originally posted by Schkeptick
This is what I was about to post. Any kind of group demonstration is not allowed on public memorials.
The reason being - it could result in damage to a priceless building.
This is NOT about freedom. It's about preservation. You wouldn't be allowed to wipe gravy off your chin with the Shroud of Turin, now would you?
If they had moved 20 feet to the side of the Lincoln Memorial they could have done anything they wanted. Public demonstrations & political activism happens all around these great monuments - just not ON them.
Don't be so over reactive that you forget logic and common sense.
" We hold these Truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of happiness. That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying it's Foundations on such Principles and organizing such Powers in such form as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and that accordingly all Experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, envinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty to throw off such Government, an to provide new Guards for their future Security."
Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by MrWendal
Please don't say this as we. I was born well after these crap decisions were made. I sure as hell didn't have a say in the fact the you need a lisence or permit to take a crap. I would have rallied against this.
Originally posted by Tonosama
Originally posted by greeneyedleo
ATS Terms and Conditions are clear....
i) You will not use your membership in the Websites for any type of recruitment to any causes whatsoever. You will not Post, use the chat feature, use videos, or use the private message system to disseminate advertisements, chain letters, petitions, pyramid schemes, or any kind of solicitation for political action, social action, letter campaigns, or related online and/or offline coordinated actions of any kind.
Any calls for action, petitioning, causes, etc will be removed!edit on May 28th 2011 by greeneyedleo because: (no reason given)
well that kind of blows. afraid of actually being useful ATS? between this and some of the questionable thread take downs you have to wonder about ATS's agenda.
Originally posted by pikappa
reply to post by MrWendal
Wow. You guys really are obsessed with guns, aren't you? It's sad how you manage to turn even a completely unrelated thread into another rant about "gun grabbers"...