Adam Kokesh Body Slammed for Dancing at Jefferson Memorial

Originally posted by octotom

I don't think the first amendment has a clause for preservation of a monument, or clause for when and where.

The First Amendment doesn't say anything about not yelling fire in a crowded theater either. I think we'd all agree that that's not a good idea though.

How was their dancing destroying the monument?

What would you expect when a radical group like Code Pink is making a demonstration? Did you all know Code Pink was in Egypt stirring up trouble before the revolution? They created chaos at the RNC. That's what they do.

Originally posted by bsbray11
Wrong. Their authority is derived from the laws. When they start arbitrarily making stuff up and claiming dancing is demonstrating or in any way illegal at all, then they have stepped outside of the bounds of their authority and should be arrested.

In the 2008 case involving Mary Oberwetter, the courts ruled that the Jefferson Memorial is a nonpublic forum, and therefore people do not have the right to demonstrate there. Therefore, demonstration is grounds for an arrest. Are you just arguing that the court's interpretation is incorrect?

EDIT: ok, wait, I see what you're saying. Dancing is not necessarily demonstrating.

I think the fact the courts disallowed PEACEFULL demonstration there, is, the problem.

Its not as if these people were loaded with guns and ready to kill.

Who are the REAL terrorists to the US Government?
That is my question.

Originally posted by expo15
In the 2008 case involving Mary Oberwetter, the courts ruled that the Jefferson Memorial is a nonpublic forum, and therefore people do not have the right to demonstrate there. Therefore, demonstration is grounds for an arrest. Are you just arguing that the court's interpretation is incorrect?

First of all I have no qualms about disagreeing with a court, just as I have no qualms disagreeing with any other politician, and as an American citizen that is my right.

Secondly can you tell me how dancing is a form of demonstration?

What is dancing demonstrating? That it's okay to be happy and have fun? Is that what's against the freaking law now?

If such thing starts to happen you are in deep trouble my friends.

Today I have strange dream in the night. I walk with my father to the cellar and when we go back there was back a totalitarian communism everywhere and militia was beetling people for everything.

Originally posted by bsbray11

Originally posted by expo15
In the 2008 case involving Mary Oberwetter, the courts ruled that the Jefferson Memorial is a nonpublic forum, and therefore people do not have the right to demonstrate there. Therefore, demonstration is grounds for an arrest. Are you just arguing that the court's interpretation is incorrect?

First of all I have no qualms about disagreeing with a court, just as I have no qualms disagreeing with any other politician, and as an American citizen that is my right.

Secondly can you tell me how dancing is a form of demonstration?

What is dancing demonstrating? That it's okay to be happy and have fun? Is that what's against the freaking law now?

Sorry, I misread your post the first time I read it. The answer to the question I asked you was right within my own post! Sorry about that.

Time for a flash mob at the Jefferson Memorial, Thriller would be in order:

[1st Verse]
It's Close To Midnight And Something Evil's Lurking In The Dark
Under The Moonlight You See A Sight That Almost Stops Your Heart
You Try To Scream But Terror Takes The Sound Before You Make It
You Start To Freeze As Horror Looks You Right Between The Eyes,
You're Paralyzed

[Chorus]
'Cause This Is Thriller, Thriller Night
And No One's Gonna Save You From The Beast About
Strike
You Know It's Thriller, Thriller Night
You're Fighting For Your Life Inside A Killer, Thriller
Tonight

[2nd Verse]
You Hear The Door Slam And Realize There's Nowhere Left To Run
You Feel The Cold Hand And Wonder If You'll Ever See The Sun
You Close Your Eyes And Hope That This Is Just
Imagination
But All The While You Hear The Creature Creepin' Up
Behind
You're Out Of Time

[Chorus]
'Cause This Is Thriller, Thriller Night
There Ain't No Second Chance Against The Thing With
Forty Eyes
You Know It's Thriller, Thriller Night
You're Fighting For Your Life Inside Of Killer, Thriller Tonight

[Bridge]
Night Creatures Call
And The Dead Start To Walk In Their Masquerade
There's No Escapin' The Jaws Of The Alien This Time
(They're Open Wide)
This Is The End Of Your Life

[3rd Verse]
They're Out To Get You, There's Demons Closing In On Every Side
They Will Possess You Unless You Change The Number On Your Dial
Now Is The Time For You And I To Cuddle Close Together
All Thru The Night I'll Save You From The Terror On The Screen,
I'll Make You See

[Chorus]
That This Is Thriller, Thriller Night
'Cause I Can Thrill You More Than Any Ghost Would Dare To Try
Girl, This Is Thriller, Thriller Night
So Let Me Hold You Tight And Share A Killer, Diller, Chiller
Thriller Here Tonight

[Rap Performed By Vincent Price]
Darkness Falls Across The Land
The Midnite Hour Is Close At Hand
Creatures Crawl In Search Of Blood
To Terrorize Y'awl's Neighbourhood
And Whosoever Shall Be Found
Without The Soul For Getting Down
Must Stand And Face The Hounds Of Hell
And Rot Inside A Corpse's Shell
The Foulest Stench Is In The Air
The Funk Of Forty Thousand Years
And Grizzy Ghouls From Every Tomb
Are Closing In To Seal Your Doom
And Though You Fight To Stay Alive
Your Body Starts To Shiver
For No Mere Mortal Can Resist
The Evil Of The Thriller.

These are still symbolic protests and responses.

That is to say, people (both protestors and authorities) are acting out a kind of skit, based in part on their ideas of what "should" be done, or based on probing the boundries of their respective powers, as has been mentioned above in various ways.

There is a difference between that kind of conflict on the one one hand, and, on the other, a mob of hungry people rushing a government food truck, say, or resisting forced ecacuation/displacement, or an actual organized violent insurrection. So when evaluating all this, its important to keep a sense of perspective. Protests rooted in abstract principles and responses thereto (appropriate or inappropriate as they may be) are qualitiatively different than open insurrection, spontaneous public disorder, organized turbulence by actual armed instigators, etc. Not that I hope it ever comes to that; far from it. And not that this dimishes their power and significance in the abstract sphere. Never underestimate the power of emotive imagery. I guess all this is just stuff everyone on both sides of the issue needs to weigh when evaluating the incident, IMHO.

Why do I get the feeling that there is more to the story? Seems highly edited? I agree that for face value it is an outrage that they would be treated this way. But the puzzle pieces just don't fit.

ps. I didn't have a chance to read all of the previous posts, so if I'm wrong I apologize.

Photography activist sometimes are arrested or harassed illegally in areas such as railroad terminals, subways etc. What happens next usually is that a big bunch of them gather up and go with a force to take pictures where this occured. That should work here aswell. Get as many dancers as possible and do a flashmob. Make sure there is media present and plenty of cameras. If that doesn't send the message loud enough then nothing will.
Also someone mentioned what the charge is. That doesn't matter these days. Cops have tons of "arrest anyone" charges they can use. If they don't use one of those ones they can just make stuff up like the recent Joey Boots case. He took pictures of military guarding the subway. Once the cops found out through the radio that it was legal he was cited with "interfering with traffic".

Originally posted by KEMIK
Why do I get the feeling that there is more to the story? Seems highly edited? I agree that for face value it is an outrage that they would be treated this way. But the puzzle pieces just don't fit.

ps. I didn't have a chance to read all of the previous posts, so if I'm wrong I apologize.

Yes, you are right. They were dumb enough to wear their pink shirts and t shirts that say CODE PINK. That means anyone can identify them as not spontaneous couples in "love" but activists who are determined to prove that the US is a fascist, Imperial State. SDS and the Weathermen, and Jerry Rubin did this at Kent State University just before May day. Only they were more violent and set fires. Their talk and rhetoric was about using guns to shut down Universities. The issue ? War in Viet Nam. The agenda? Communism.

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The only thing that makes me think you're right is the fact that these guys were in Egypt prior to their revolution. That revolution was completely orchestrated by the US government using activist groups on Facebook and Twitter.

But that still does not excuse police for arresting people for "demonstrating" when they are really just dancing. Those pigs have obviously come to believe that whatever whim they have has the authority of law.

Btw nice avatar. Black Snake Moan, good movie.

Here's what they do when they are not stirring up trouble in our Nation's revered monuments.

bigpeace.com...

They are already planning a return to the Thomas Jefferson memorial next Saturday at noon. So far on facebook they have 169 people 'attending' the event. Over 4,000 other people have been invited and are awaiting reply. I'm not sure how it will turn out but since Adam has his own show I know the cameras will be rolling. I really wish I could be there. I'm tired of the government thinking it can control our every move.

I don't think I'm allowed to post a link to the event but it's not hard to find. It's time we stand up for our rights.

Well, if code pink is being used as a psyops to agitate and start some kind of revolt in this country so that it will plummet us into a total police state forget it lol. Americans are not keen on taking to the streets and fighting for their liberties. If they stand in a row waiting for their tsa fondlings, they aren't going to do much about dancing at a monument, or will they?

WHOA, slow down. At no point did I say it was right for them to be treated in a harmful or unjust way. All I was wondering was what happened in it's entirety. What happened? I don't know, that's all. You were quick to "fire" back at my question negatively. If you need some clarity just ask.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by KEMIK
Why do I get the feeling that there is more to the story? Seems highly edited? I agree that for face value it is an outrage that they would be treated this way. But the puzzle pieces just don't fit.

ps. I didn't have a chance to read all of the previous posts, so if I'm wrong I apologize.

Yes, you are right. They were dumb enough to wear their pink shirts and t shirts that say CODE PINK. That means anyone can identify them as not spontaneous couples in "love" but activists who are determined to prove that the US is a fascist, Imperial State. SDS and the Weathermen, and Jerry Rubin did this at Kent State University just before May day. Only they were more violent and set fires. Their talk and rhetoric was about using guns to shut down Universities. The issue ? War in Viet Nam. The agenda? Communism.

Neocon much, buddy?

So what you're saying is, they brought this on themselves because they wore certain t-shirts?

I'm not sure what universe you're living in, but it's a demented one.

I am in no way for a Police State, but I am also not for radical leftists whose mission in life is to create chaos and start socialist revolutions. They are as anti-American as it gets. That is the plain truth of this matter. I was reading today that at the Kent State riots, there were communist agitators wearing white armbands who were herding the crowd from the perimeter and pushing them into the police bayonets. Don't be fooled by these wolves in sheep's clothing. Oh and it was SDS(Students for a Democratic Society) and Weathermen Underground involved at Kent State, and Code Pink is teamed up with Bill Ayers too. Soros funded.

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I am not a NEOCON and I'm not a BUDDY! I have just explained that I am for Liberty and Freedom, but I also know that Code Pink are a bunch of radicals who foment revolutions. It's very simple. If you are a leftist you will appreciate Code Pink's work. You see they deliberately picked a place where they knew there would be cops galore to protect the monument. They can waltz all down Broadway ave without a problem. But in our country's revered monuments, tours in the WH, your local Catholic Parish, or the DMV not so much.