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Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
If you are so CERTAIN that they are in Reality Not FAKES , then the Burden of Proof is on YOU here to show me Otherwise Oh Great Karnac..........edit on 21-5-2011 by Zanti Misfit because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
If you are so CERTAIN that they are in Reality Not FAKES , then the Burden of Proof is on YOU here to show me Otherwise Oh Great Karnac..........edit on 21-5-2011 by Zanti Misfit because: (no reason given)
that isn't how the burden of proof works, friend.
second
Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
Then what do you Personally Believe concerning Obamas Real Idenity ? Is he what he says he is or not ? See my Point ? The House of Cards is Falling apart for this Man , The Truth about him will eventually be Reveiled , and it wiil Shock many who Supported him .
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
Originally posted by ontarff
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
reply to post by ontarff
what evidence is being 'suppressed'?
pardon my ignorance.
The Hawaiian microfiche that is used to record the original documents and any original unscanned hard documents.
And you want these original, hard-copy documents brought door-to-door to every American?
Originally posted by ontarff
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
Originally posted by ontarff
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
reply to post by ontarff
what evidence is being 'suppressed'?
pardon my ignorance.
The Hawaiian microfiche that is used to record the original documents and any original unscanned hard documents.
And you want these original, hard-copy documents brought door-to-door to every American?
Don't be foolish, you know that is not possible. They could be examined by a committee of well known document experts not paid by any special interest groups.
Originally posted by NuroSlam
Doesnt matter if he was born here or not, he sucks either way
Originally posted by wcitizen
No, actually. The burdern of proof is on both parties with regard to the statements they make - both defense and prosecution have to prove their claims.
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
Originally posted by ontarff
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
reply to post by ontarff
what evidence is being 'suppressed'?
pardon my ignorance.
The Hawaiian microfiche that is used to record the original documents and any original unscanned hard documents.
And you want these original, hard-copy documents brought door-to-door to every American?
Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
In what way do you Surmise that ? Do you know me Personally ? Can you Read my Mind ? What Proof can you Present here that I am Blind ? The FACTS Speak for themselves concerning the Legitimacy of Obamas BC and Dubious SS Number . If you are so CERTAIN that they are in Reality Not FAKES , then the Burden of Proof is on YOU here to show me Otherwise Oh Great Karnac..........edit on 21-5-2011 by Zanti Misfit because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
If you are so CERTAIN that they are in Reality Not FAKES , then the Burden of Proof is on YOU here to show me Otherwise Oh Great Karnac..........edit on 21-5-2011 by Zanti Misfit because: (no reason given)
that isn't how the burden of proof works, friend.
second
Then what do you Personally Believe concerning Obamas Real Idenity ? Is he what he says he is or not ? See my Point ? The House of Cards is Falling apart for this Man , The Truth about him will eventually be Reveiled , and it wiil Shock many who Supported him .
Originally posted by ontarff
Don't be foolish, you know that is not possible. They could be examined by a committee of well known document experts not paid by any special interest groups.
Originally posted by DYepes
So social security numbers huh? Does the video or the interview provide like an actual legal document that confirms this social security mishap? That may sway me, at what point in the video is this presented?, ive got limited time here.
America, # yeeaaahh!!!!
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
What do I 'believe'? I believe that the entire 'birther' issue is perpetuated by DNC, who just LOVE the useful idiots carrying their disnfo torch, because as long as they can paint their detractors as crazy nutters by associating them with folks who make the argument you are making, then they can avoid any actual debate about the specifics of Obama's policies.
THAT's what I believe.
Originally posted by aptness
You’re forgetting the presumption of innocence. And since Barack Obama isn’t legally required to disclose his birth certificate to the American people, the only burden at this point lays with the birthers.
Originally posted by wcitizen
No, actually. The burdern of proof is on both parties with regard to the statements they make - both defense and prosecution have to prove their claims.
And since they have never be able to prove a single allegation the burden will most likely never shift to the defense.
Originally posted by micpsi
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
What do I 'believe'? I believe that the entire 'birther' issue is perpetuated by DNC, who just LOVE the useful idiots carrying their disnfo torch, because as long as they can paint their detractors as crazy nutters by associating them with folks who make the argument you are making, then they can avoid any actual debate about the specifics of Obama's policies.
THAT's what I believe.
Yeah. Despite all the evidence accumulating that should raise alarm bells in you. Your fantasy that the DNC is perpetuating the birther issue is nonsense. Try examining the actual facts for a change.
Originally posted by wcitizen
Originally posted by aptness
You’re forgetting the presumption of innocence. And since Barack Obama isn’t legally required to disclose his birth certificate to the American people, the only burden at this point lays with the birthers.
Originally posted by wcitizen
No, actually. The burdern of proof is on both parties with regard to the statements they make - both defense and prosecution have to prove their claims.
And since they have never be able to prove a single allegation the burden will most likely never shift to the defense.
Absolutely not. And you're shifting the goal posts. The comment I made was not about Obama at all. Comprehension problem or something else>
Originally posted by coastalite
It is amazing just how blinded by political ideology the Husseiniacs can be when defending their comrades.
IMO, we've been sold out by not only the MSM but by all three branches of government as well: the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial. Somebody wake me from this nightmare.
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
Originally posted by ontarff
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
Originally posted by ontarff
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
reply to post by ontarff
what evidence is being 'suppressed'?
pardon my ignorance.
The Hawaiian microfiche that is used to record the original documents and any original unscanned hard documents.
And you want these original, hard-copy documents brought door-to-door to every American?
Don't be foolish, you know that is not possible. They could be examined by a committee of well known document experts not paid by any special interest groups.
Oh, you mean like they already did?
factcheck.org...
The certificate is stamped June 2007, because that’s when Hawaii officials produced it for the campaign, which requested that document and "all the records we could get our hands on...
Of course, it’s distantly possible that Obama’s grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday. We suggest that those who choose to go down that path should first equip themselves with a high-quality tinfoil hat. The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A