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Originally posted by JakiusFogg
Really it is a slippy slope.
My point (again) is if someone does not want to be told what to do, how to live, what they can or must do to receive Welfare from the state, then they should ensure they either do not accept it or do not remain beholden to the state for any length of time.
You want autonomy and control of your life, then claim it and don't ask or accept state handouts. If you do, you get what they give you along with the rules that come with it.
Originally posted by MikeyBones
You also mentioned that everyone makes their own decisions and therefore is responsible for them, but again this is not necessarily true. For example, I didn't start making decisions on my diet until my teenage years. Most people are forced by their parents to eat what they eat. So if you are raised off of garbage, you most likely have built up an addiction to such crap and may need assistance be withdrawn from the world of junk food.
Originally posted by FanarFanar
People on welfare can't afford to eat healthy. They can either eat cheap processed food that makes people overweight or they can starve.
It costs more to care for healthy people who live years longer, according to a Dutch study that counters the common perception that preventing obesity would save governments millions of dollars.
"It was a small surprise," said Pieter van Baal, an economist at the National Institute for Public Health and the Environment in the Netherlands, who led the study. "But it also makes sense. If you live longer, then you cost the health system more."
I don't see $50 as much of an incentive, or much of a threat, but it's enough to get the issue on some people's radar screens where it needs to be, but currently it's not. I advise reading the article, as it talks about both sides of this issue, the pros and the cons.
Originally posted by kinglizard
I'm all for encouraging weight loss/proper diets but lets do it through education or incentives rather than threats.