If there were no smokers or fatties taxes would have to be a whole lot more.

Think about how much tax people pay on their smokes...it far outweighs what it costs for smoking related illness and death. I think its something like £10 billion a year in tax on ciggys in the uk and the bill for smokers on the NHS is something like £2 billion.

They really dont know what to fine you for next Its time people grew a back bone and stopped these tyrannical dictators from ruining our lives and our futures lives. If we dont stop this bull[snip] now our kids arent going to be able to fart without being fined a months wages!

This is an extremely slippery slope where do you draw the line? Do people then lose their right to refuse treatment? Do people lose their right of conscious all because it isn't for the benefit of state? To me anyways it is important to look after yourself but that is not for the state to decide. In fact that is not a right of state in the US, they do not have that power according to the US constitution. This will be challenged and they meaning AZ will lose in court.

It's not fair. That is always how it starts. Taking away our liberties, freedom of choice, one law at a time.

WOO HOO!

Yes, it is fair! You know why?

Because I was handed to "them" for being a smoker, now they are coming for the fatties! I am so happy, I could cry.

Get ready to defend your rights, though it will be futile. You are hurting others with your fat, insurance premiums etc...

Just like me and my passive vrauchen!

This is complete bs. Those who want free health care, guess what.... nothing is free. Put government in charge of health care, and they will tell you what to eat, how much to sleep, what pills to take, when and how to exercise.....etc. All in the name of healthcare. And we'll still be forced to gobble down those gmo salads and if the heart disease and diabetes from being overweight doesn't kill us, surely the cancer will.

Wait till you have to put your bmi on your license and then show your id to buy cake and donuts. BMI too high? Well, no cake for you then.

What's fair?

This is the nanny state. Anything you say or do or don't do will be held against you for the greater good.

At least that's always the excuse.

The reality is that to gov just wants your money and it doesnt care how it has to justify or rationalize it.

Just have to keep the majority in line with it and they can get away with anything so they focus on attacking the minority and scapegoating the thing they wish to use as justification as the bane of all the majority.

Sometimes it's more ridiculous than other times.

In degrees of absurdity from least to most *note all excuses to steal your property are wholly absurd*

See that filthy smoker? We can get money from him.
See that guy with the truck? We can get money from him.
Seatbelts save lives. Lets make money off that.
Big house collects a lot of rain. Big house means money. We can get some of that.

You get the idea.

no

control over basic human actions should not be matters of the state

this is a brave new world order

filled with lies deceit and treason

remember remember the 5th of november

Ohh tricky one... I definitely think fat people who require two seats on any form of transport should pay extra. Also if they are morbidly obese maybe a different baggage weight fee when they fly?

I suppose if it affects their ability to get a job, therefore requiring them to stay on benefits then maybe. But the ensuing depression from lower funds could just exacerbate the situation. In the US you have a completely different healthcare system to the UK. Over here we have both fat people on benefits and using tax funded healthcare provision, without contributing themselves, or taking any personal responsibility to improve their situation and thus reduce their dependency.

Like I say a tricky one...

Just thinking with the weight issues the US has, if Obama's health reforms come into affect you folks are in for a bumpy ride.

What about people with hyperthyroid problems?

@ least the recipient is buying food and not illegal drugs.....

Or trading in the food stamps for beer....

We give them a certain amount if they choose to eat instead of smoking crack we should punish them.....