The Sugar Conspiracy, page 2


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reply posted on 17-5-2011 @ 09:53 AM by mblahnikluver
reply to post by unityemissions



The portions of food here in the states is nuts!

I can never eat a full meal ever and then people always tell me how I didn't eat. I do not need 3 pieces of chicken and enough mashed potatoes for 3 people with my meal. On top of that they bring you bread and then you have your sides. It is a lot of food.

I ordered Chili's the other day for take out and i got two full meals and an appetizer for 20 bucks..Those feed me for an entire week! It was so much food. I think a lot of food is wasted this way too which is sad because too many people are going hungry in the world.

I dont remember food portions being this big as a kid. I know I will always have left overs!


reply posted on 17-5-2011 @ 09:55 AM by Blarneystoner
Stevia is a natural alternative and just as sweet as sugar.

Stevia: Wiki

Also, Consider honey as an alternative as well. Honey is a powerful anti-biotic that can be used to fight anti-biotic resistant bacterial infections.

Originally posted by mblahnikluver
reply to post by unityemissions



The portions of food here in the states is nuts!

I can never eat a full meal ever and then people always tell me how I didn't eat. I do not need 3 pieces of chicken and enough mashed potatoes for 3 people with my meal. On top of that they bring you bread and then you have your sides. It is a lot of food.

I ordered Chili's the other day for take out and i got two full meals and an appetizer for 20 bucks..Those feed me for an entire week! It was so much food. I think a lot of food is wasted this way too which is sad because too many people are going hungry in the world.

I dont remember food portions being this big as a kid. I know I will always have left overs!


I completely agree with you here. Until recently I was only eating one or two meals a day and managed to keep my weight at a healthy level. I take my time eating and the portions are not what you would find in a typical restaraunt. But, the gal I've been seeing for the past eight months or so is constantly feeding me; the food is healthy but the portions are huge and sometimes 4 times a day on the weekends. I'm gaining weight like crazy and I hate it. May have to have a talk with her about this... lol....

edit on 17-5-2011 by Blarneystoner because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 17-5-2011 @ 10:10 AM by MiTS1965
reply to post by Skyfloating


Hi Skyfloating. You claim that sugar addiction is a cause of hypoglycemia. I'm diabetic and hypo is a condition caused by a severe lack of sugar. Whenever I experience any of the symptoms you mention the solution is to get some sugar into my system as fast as possible. I think you possibly meant hyperglycemia which is having far too much sugar in ones blood but the symptoms are nowhere near as obvious as hypo. My doctor once told me that often the first symptoms of diabetes are amputations or liver/kidney failure.

Too much sugar is certainly a bad thing but to cut it out altogether can be just as dangerous.


reply posted on 17-5-2011 @ 10:30 AM by unityemissions
reply to post by MiTS1965



You got it backwards.

The reason you need the sugar is because you've already screwed up your system by consuming too much sugars in the past.

Sugar addiction most certainly causes imbalances of sugar levels. Both hyperglycemia and hypoglycemia.


reply posted on 17-5-2011 @ 12:38 PM by g146541
reply to post by Skyfloating



You are partially right, at least.
Take diabetic numbers from say 30 years ago when HFCS started to take iover everything.
Sure there were diabetics, but there are a few more nowadays.
It is difficult to find anything without HFCS, even in some ..."healthy foods".
Sure sugar has no nutrients and such, but your body does use it and your body will naturally balance everything it can.
So if sugar is the devil then, HFCS is the walmart super mega devil on crack.
I am a diabetic and I can drink the Mexican Coke and Pepsi and normalize pretty easy with an adjustment to my insulin, I have to work much harder to normalize after the same drinks from the US made with HFCS.
Do not sweat the sugar worry about HFCS.
They truly are 2 different animals.


reply posted on 17-5-2011 @ 12:50 PM by marg6043
reply to post by Skyfloating



Interesting but is not joke that since Americans has gotten in processed sugar rush they have gotten more thicker around the waist, diabetes is in the raise and so hart diseases.

Now as for me, I tend to gain weight easily when I increase my sugar, even with all the exercises. weight training , and b6 and b12 shots as soon I stop the sugar weights comes down.



reply posted on 17-5-2011 @ 03:59 PM by MiTS1965
Originally posted by Skyfloating
Originally posted by MiTS1965

Hi Skyfloating. You claim that sugar addiction is a cause of hypoglycemia. I'm diabetic and hypo is a condition caused by a severe lack of sugar.


Yes, I understand. But that lack of sugar is linked to having intaken too much sugar over longer periods of time in the first place in many cases.
edit on 17-5-2011 by Skyfloating because: (no reason given)

This certainly isn't true in my case. I've never had a sweet tooth. Chocolates bought for me for birthdays/Christmas have remained in my fridge for months. I've never even been a big fan of carbs or fruit. I'm sure that for some people high sugar consumption can cause diabetes but my point is that the symptoms you cited (correctly) for hypo generally do not exhibit themselves in people who take in high levels of sugar because they are in a permanent hyper state. Hyper symptoms are usually catastrophic and sometimes lethal.

What I'm trying to say is: use lots of sugar and you will become diabetic and hyper, leading to no obvious symptoms and possibly sudden death. Use too little sugar and you will demonstrate all the symptoms you described but that flags the disease and you need to take sugar quickly.

When I first started showing hypo symptoms I thought I would feel a bit better if I just had a lie down. That was the worst thing I could have done. My body needed sugar and I'm just concerned that there are people on here who are getting the message that sugar is intrinsically bad and should be avoided at all cost.

Rather than telling people that sugar is bad and if symptoms of hypoglycemia set in they should be met with avoidance of sugar the opposite message should be given: if you get symptoms of hypo GET SOME SUGAR IN YOU FAST.

I, my brother and youngest sister are all Type 2 diabetics. My eldest sister is Type 1 diabetic. My mother died of Type 2 diabetes last October. I know exactly what I'm talking about and don't want people to be missled on this site which could cause health problems for them just because someone is trying to promote a conspiracy theory.


reply posted on 17-5-2011 @ 04:14 PM by MiTS1965
reply to post by unityemissions



Which I essentially agreed with. What I'm saying is that, regardless of the cause, if someone exhibits hypo symptoms they should TAKE sugar, not avoid it at all costs.

This thread seemed to be saying that sugar is intrinsically evil. Its not, it just needs to be regulated. Some have suggested total abstinance from sugar and that is dangerous. They could be hyper without knowing it and a sudden sessation of sugar intake could kill them very rapidly.

This is what happened with my mother. I don't want it to happen to anyone else.


reply posted on 17-5-2011 @ 04:18 PM by unityemissions
reply to post by MiTS1965



Well I do agree that if someone is having an "attack" of hypoglycemia, they should take some sugar. To my knowledge, only a small amount is needed to hit your bloodstream quickly and normalize levels, correct? Something like 5grams of sugar, perhaps?


reply posted on 17-5-2011 @ 04:30 PM by MiTS1965
Originally posted by unityemissions
reply to
post by MiTS1965



Well I do agree that if someone is having an "attack" of hypoglycemia, they should take some sugar. To my knowledge, only a small amount is needed to hit your bloodstream quickly and normalize levels, correct? Something like 5grams of sugar, perhaps?


My doctor advised that at the first sign of hypo I should drink half a bottle of Lucozade. Give it 30 mins and see if I feel I need more.

At the moment I don't need insulin tablets; I can control it by diet. This is why I get so upset by people saying others should cut out sugar entirely. You just have to be sensible and be aware what your body is telling you.
edit on 17-5-2011 by MiTS1965 because: Typo



reply posted on 18-5-2011 @ 07:20 PM by DevolutionEvolvd
reply to post by Skyfloating



That's because when you remove the fat, the only other macronutrient that can provide sustenance at a similar value is carbohydrate...which is often times in the form of sugar.
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