Pak PM reminds U.S. of its dubious role in creation of al-Qaeda

Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by hp1229

 

It might be the case but my point is about Pakistan and its Intelligence agency along with politicians who are playing both sides of the fence at the same time providing a haven for the troublemakers regardless of who created them.

And you don't think the US is in on the game??
The manufactured war on terror is BIG business...

Ofcourse not just the US but several other countries are involved.

But you're missing the point. Pakistan indeed is the mastermind behind this big terrorism game.

Originally posted by hp1229
Providing safe haven and passport to freely waltz in and out of the country.

do you realize the terrain and geography of afghan-pak border?
you make it sound like its jfk with millions of people passing thru...

think us-mex border. no matter how well it is policed, mexicans will get thru.

reply to post by hp1229


I disagree. I think they are working together. Like an earlier poster said, this terrorism stuff is big business. You got Petrayus (sp?) and that other guy (giffords?) meeting in Pakistan like a year ago in walking distance to Bin Laden and they didn't know? come on. lol.

Maybe the US decided to turn on pakistan and make them the enemy now. It seems they do this to all their puppets eventually. Maybe they will invade, maybe they wont.

I guess we'll see. I don't buy the whole war on terror thing, so I'm a hard one to convert.

Originally posted by FuGGer

Originally posted by hp1229
Providing safe haven and passport to freely waltz in and out of the country.

do you realize the terrain and geography of afghan-pak border?
you make it sound like its jfk with millions of people passing thru...

think us-mex border. no matter how well it is policed, mexicans will get thru.

Yes I do realize the terrain is difficult to control. I am referring to the big groups like LET, JM and others who are
setup to recruit young ones for the proxy wars in the Indian side of LOC from the Pakistan side of LOC.

Groups that are active and formed and supported in/by pakistan.
LIST OF TERRORIST GROUPS

reply to post by hp1229

But you're missing the point. Pakistan indeed is the mastermind behind this big terrorism game.

BS...What has Pakistan gained compared to the US an a few other countries I wont name ??

Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by hp1229

 

But you're missing the point. Pakistan indeed is the mastermind behind this big terrorism game.

BS...What has Pakistan gained compared to the US an a few other countries I wont name ??

See the link below. For pakistan it is a source of International Funding to fight the war on terrorism. The funding is used to funnel OTHER campaigns (local terrorist groups) and people to fight the proxy war with India.

LIST OF TERRORIST GROUPS

LINK TO INTERESTING ARTICLES

FUNDING USED FOR FOREIGN TERRORIST GROUPS

PAKISTANI ROLE IN TERRORISM AGAINST US

Al Qaeda doesn't exist.

Originally posted by hp1229
Every single terrorist on the FBI watchlist involved with 9/11 were found in Pakistan. Once again the Pakistan disinfo is in place and passing the blame back to US. Who is right and who is wrong?

If a lie is circulated in the media, it will become a truth. We then end up discussing the topic thiking the same lie as truth.

This is probably a statement made to throw the people of Pakistan and the world off the trail. The Pakistani government is angry because they have to figure out how this happened.

So the saga continues even after the death of the Most Wanted in the World.



www.thehindu.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

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The US just unilaterally carried out a military operation and an assassination in Pakistani SOVREIGN territory, without the permission of the Pakistani government. OF COURSE they are angry.

Originally posted by hp1229

Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by hp1229

 

But you're missing the point. Pakistan indeed is the mastermind behind this big terrorism game.

BS...What has Pakistan gained compared to the US an a few other countries I wont name ??

See the link below. For pakistan it is a source of International Funding to fight the war on terrorism. The funding is used to funnel OTHER campaigns (local terrorist groups) and people to fight the proxy war with India.

LIST OF TERRORIST GROUPS

LINK TO INTERESTING ARTICLES

FUNDING USED FOR FOREIGN TERRORIST GROUPS

PAKISTANI ROLE IN TERRORISM AGAINST US

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You want to know the countries which provide the greatest funding for terrorists? You don't need to look far.....
US and Israel.

Originally posted by wcitizen

Originally posted by hp1229
Every single terrorist on the FBI watchlist involved with 9/11 were found in Pakistan. Once again the Pakistan disinfo is in place and passing the blame back to US. Who is right and who is wrong?

If a lie is circulated in the media, it will become a truth. We then end up discussing the topic thiking the same lie as truth.

This is probably a statement made to throw the people of Pakistan and the world off the trail. The Pakistani government is angry because they have to figure out how this happened.

So the saga continues even after the death of the Most Wanted in the World.



www.thehindu.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

edit on 9-5-2011 by hp1229 because: (no reason given)

edit on 9-5-2011 by hp1229 because: (no reason given)

The US just unilaterally carried out a military operation and an assassination in Pakistani SOVREIGN territory, without the permission of the Pakistani government. OF COURSE they are angry.

edit on 9-5-2011 by wcitizen because: (no reason given)

Are you sure about that? You dont think fraction of the ISI or Army were involved?

It is very hard to believe that no one knew about the plan.

Originally posted by hp1229


But you're missing the point. Pakistan indeed is the mastermind behind this big terrorism game.

You seem to be conveniently forgetting the role of the US in creating and supporting terror groups - and you seem to be swallowing the government propaganda.

Originally posted by hp1229

Originally posted by wcitizen

Originally posted by hp1229
Every single terrorist on the FBI watchlist involved with 9/11 were found in Pakistan. Once again the Pakistan disinfo is in place and passing the blame back to US. Who is right and who is wrong?

If a lie is circulated in the media, it will become a truth. We then end up discussing the topic thiking the same lie as truth.

This is probably a statement made to throw the people of Pakistan and the world off the trail. The Pakistani government is angry because they have to figure out how this happened.

So the saga continues even after the death of the Most Wanted in the World.



www.thehindu.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

edit on 9-5-2011 by hp1229 because: (no reason given)

edit on 9-5-2011 by hp1229 because: (no reason given)

The US just unilaterally carried out a military operation and an assassination in Pakistani SOVREIGN territory, without the permission of the Pakistani government. OF COURSE they are angry.

edit on 9-5-2011 by wcitizen because: (no reason given)

Are you sure about that? You dont think fraction of the ISI or Army were involved?

It is very hard to believe that no one knew about the plan.

Are you sure you aren't just twisting the facts to suit your opinion?

reply to post by hp1229

Are you sure about that? You dont think fraction of the ISI or Army were involved?

It is very hard to believe that no one knew about the plan.

And who helped create and finance the ISI.???????

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
Al Qaeda doesn't exist.

It exists. As a catchall term created by Americans for "people we want you to fear and hate."

It just doesnt have its own existence other than a convenient label for whomever the enemy du jour is.

For years the CIA used the ISI as a conduit to pump billions of dollars into militant Islamist groups in Afghanistan, both before and after the Soviet invasion of 1979.

www.guardian.co.uk...

That article is from 2004...

ISI are mere puppets for the US CIA...

Originally posted by wcitizen

Originally posted by hp1229

Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by hp1229

 

But you're missing the point. Pakistan indeed is the mastermind behind this big terrorism game.

BS...What has Pakistan gained compared to the US an a few other countries I wont name ??

See the link below. For pakistan it is a source of International Funding to fight the war on terrorism. The funding is used to funnel OTHER campaigns (local terrorist groups) and people to fight the proxy war with India.

LIST OF TERRORIST GROUPS

LINK TO INTERESTING ARTICLES

FUNDING USED FOR FOREIGN TERRORIST GROUPS

PAKISTANI ROLE IN TERRORISM AGAINST US

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You want to know the countries which provide the greatest funding for terrorists? You don't need to look far.....
US and Israel.

Well funding is not intended for what its being used in reality.

MISUSE OF FUNDING

Originally posted by wcitizen

Originally posted by hp1229

Originally posted by wcitizen

Originally posted by hp1229
Every single terrorist on the FBI watchlist involved with 9/11 were found in Pakistan. Once again the Pakistan disinfo is in place and passing the blame back to US. Who is right and who is wrong?

If a lie is circulated in the media, it will become a truth. We then end up discussing the topic thiking the same lie as truth.

This is probably a statement made to throw the people of Pakistan and the world off the trail. The Pakistani government is angry because they have to figure out how this happened.

So the saga continues even after the death of the Most Wanted in the World.



www.thehindu.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

edit on 9-5-2011 by hp1229 because: (no reason given)

edit on 9-5-2011 by hp1229 because: (no reason given)

The US just unilaterally carried out a military operation and an assassination in Pakistani SOVREIGN territory, without the permission of the Pakistani government. OF COURSE they are angry.

edit on 9-5-2011 by wcitizen because: (no reason given)

Are you sure about that? You dont think fraction of the ISI or Army were involved?

It is very hard to believe that no one knew about the plan.

Are you sure you aren't just twisting the facts to suit your opinion?

What facts are you referring to?

If thats the case then there is no real fact since nothing can be obtainable as evidence on the internet.

Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by hp1229

 

Are you sure about that? You dont think fraction of the ISI or Army were involved?

It is very hard to believe that no one knew about the plan.

And who helped create and finance the ISI.???????

You mean after their independence in 1947? Sure the US chose Pakistan as a test bed for a regional ally in south east asia to strategically position itself against the USSR (Russia).

Or after 09/11/01?

Originally posted by hp1229

Originally posted by wcitizen

Originally posted by hp1229

Originally posted by wcitizen

Originally posted by hp1229
Every single terrorist on the FBI watchlist involved with 9/11 were found in Pakistan. Once again the Pakistan disinfo is in place and passing the blame back to US. Who is right and who is wrong?

If a lie is circulated in the media, it will become a truth. We then end up discussing the topic thiking the same lie as truth.

This is probably a statement made to throw the people of Pakistan and the world off the trail. The Pakistani government is angry because they have to figure out how this happened.

So the saga continues even after the death of the Most Wanted in the World.



www.thehindu.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

edit on 9-5-2011 by hp1229 because: (no reason given)

edit on 9-5-2011 by hp1229 because: (no reason given)

The US just unilaterally carried out a military operation and an assassination in Pakistani SOVREIGN territory, without the permission of the Pakistani government. OF COURSE they are angry.

edit on 9-5-2011 by wcitizen because: (no reason given)

Are you sure about that? You dont think fraction of the ISI or Army were involved?

It is very hard to believe that no one knew about the plan.

Are you sure you aren't just twisting the facts to suit your opinion?

What facts are you referring to?

If thats the case then there is no real fact since nothing can be obtainable as evidence on the internet.

Yes, my mistake, I should have said 'twisting the info'.

Originally posted by hp1229


Well funding is not intended for what its being used in reality.

MISUSE OF FUNDING

My point exactly. They misappropriate funds and bypass scrutiny to fund and create terrorist groups.