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Originally posted by UcDat
Originally posted by topherman420
I will trash a respected professor for that. Even if it was the ever so famous Stephen
I hope that didnt come off as too bitter of a rant or snapping at you its just how i feel about it, im pretty passionate about science lol
No your answers are very civil. While I disagree with you this man is no ones physician and does not owe us anything I do see your point and would also like to have seen an official scientific paper on the subject.
Originally posted by topherman420
The out right disintegration is what im having trouble with since, like i had said before, i dont think matter can be destroyed out right so transmutation has got to be the key....that is if it is happening and he can prove it. From what i gathered from the report, the put the device in the water (im not sure it said depth) let it do its thing for awhile then after hours (?) the water had cleared dramatically. Also i read they tested the water prior and after and showed the differences. But thats where it pretty much ends, there was no tests outside the zone they treated from what i read, and again, the chemist (most likely since he may not be fully qualified to make an opinion on it) did not state whether he examined the device used and what was the components inside and their purposes.
None the less this topic has me extremely interested at the moment. And might i add, this is fantastic discussion post.
I agree and I would like to see a demonstration by some professional scientist. But I do believe they have proven it works. Lets hope some scientist at ATS reads this and picks up the gauntlet because I dont think TPTB want this technology out. As for the disintegration thing keep in mind that was just my guess.
Many thanks for your feedback imho ATS is one of the best places on the web to have a civil discussion about anything conspiracy related.
topherman420
I found a "Paper" (its in quotes since i use the term loosely) by Ken shoulders regarding HE and EVO's(?)
www.hutchisoneffect.ca...
Uploaded on May 23, 2011
. . . Ken Shoulders, Father of MicroElectronics, grants a RARE interview and discusses his current work: EVOs (exotic vacuum objects), the Hutchison Effect, anti-gravity, Frontier Science and errors in Cold Fusion. The Hutchison Effect (EVOs) may be able to eliminate the nuclear contamination from Fukushima. Off camera comments and questions from Clare (Ken's wife) and Nancy Lazaryan. Filmed Sept. 2010. . . .
Mary Rose
Here is a video from John Hutchison's YouTube channel that references the paper.
Mary Rose
Mary Rose
Here is a video from John Hutchison's YouTube channel that references the paper.
Apparently the paper is actually slides of a presentation before the MIT Cold Fusion Conference in 2005:
Mary Rose
reply to post by Korg Trinity
In my research for my own threads, I same across the video, and did a search of ATS to see what's already in threads about John Hutchison.
I had never heard of EVOs before, either, and was intrigued.
Mary Rose
The interview begins at 4:30.
Korg Trinity
My area of study now is connected in so much as I am currently researching the implications of resonance at the Planck scales of reality and how this relates to how consciousness gives rise to reality.
Mary Rose
The interview begins at 4:30. Ken Shoulders makes reference to the Prince of Liechtenstein. I wouldn't have understood what he was talking about if I had not seen this article announcing his death from LENR News and Research.
Shoulders worked in some of the most exciting uncharted territories, including novel flight mechanisms as well as remote viewing research sponsored by the CIA. At one time, Shoulders states in the video, he was discussing possible research collaboration with Prince Hans-Adam II of Liechtenstein.
Mary Rose
Korg Trinity
My area of study now is connected in so much as I am currently researching the implications of resonance at the Planck scales of reality and how this relates to how consciousness gives rise to reality.
Consciousness is on my list of research topics.
It appears from my research that consciousness can actually steer a spacecraft. That was testified to at The Citizen Hearing on Disclosure.
Korg Trinity
I have researched the Hutchinson effect when I was in my Tesla phase. The effect is indeed very real but it is also very unstable experimentally. Never being able to predict results and in some cases complete lack of results means there is something missing. Something we do not yet understand is going on when concerning the Hutchinson effect.
My area of study now is connected in so much as I am currently researching the implications of resonance at the Planck scales of reality and how this relates to how consciousness gives rise to reality.
Mary Rose
Korg Trinity
I have researched the Hutchinson effect when I was in my Tesla phase. The effect is indeed very real but it is also very unstable experimentally. Never being able to predict results and in some cases complete lack of results means there is something missing. Something we do not yet understand is going on when concerning the Hutchinson effect.
My area of study now is connected in so much as I am currently researching the implications of resonance at the Planck scales of reality and how this relates to how consciousness gives rise to reality.
Can you comment more on that?
In other words, do you have a hunch about how consciousness might fit in to the Hutchinson effect?
Are you familiar with the work of Sharry Edwards?
Korg Trinity
Yep, I made the link between consciousness and the Hutchinson effect when looking at the frequency charts recorded during the hutchinson effect.
Thank you. I don't know who Michael Hutchinson is.
Korg Trinity
Michael Hutchinson himself published many articles on the coloration to the charts with Theta brainwaves. I have loads of the stuff on a hard drive somewhere, I'll dig it out for you.
I believe that is the case, but I would call it the aether/ether, which has always been here and will always be here, and if there was ever a Big Bang, the aether/ether was already here when it happened.
Korg Trinity
returning to my premise that consciousness creates reality, it is to say that matter is created from Space-time itself, not suspended within it.
Korg Trinity
I might sound like a crack pot... sorry for that... I will try and dig out my research for you.
Mary Rose
Mary Rose
Shoulders also said in the interview that George Hathaway was Senior Technical Advisor to the Prince.