What would it take to appease some of you Birthers? (last birther thread)

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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 11:44 AM
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Obviously now there is a little evidence, but meeting the eligibility requirement has been rediciously low, covered up by a partisan MSM, and If the Donald had gotten the evidence--not CNN-- it would be more beliveable.

No, I will remain skeptical until he releases all transcripts, documents, and any other evidence that he is a natural born citizen, including his transcripts from all schools he attended. I will not believe Obama is not hiding something He's stonewalled for two years. Sorry but I remain suspicious.


So to you the information does not matter, but who delivers it? Ok

Wanting to see all of those documents is a disgusting invasion of privacy! If the government requested all those documents from you, I bet you would be the first one on ATS screaming "police state"!

Look at the form, and tell me what he is hiding. Ill wait here.

Birthers, take a hint from "Stonewall" Jackson and give it up




posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by centurion1211

Why?





At a time of great consequence for this country – when we should be debating how we win the future, reduce our deficit, deal with high gas prices, and bring stability to the Middle East, Washington, DC, was once again distracted by a fake issue. The President’s hope is that with this step, we can move on to debating the bigger issues that matter to the American people and the future of the country.


www.whitehouse.gov...



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by xavi1000



How to demonstrate intellectual bankruptcy on ATS?

Playing the race card.

With a cartoon, no less, so you can reach everyone in your peer group.




posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 11:46 AM
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Originally posted by maybereal11

Originally posted by centurion1211

Why?





At a time of great consequence for this country – when we should be debating how we win the future, reduce our deficit, deal with high gas prices, and bring stability to the Middle East, Washington, DC, was once again distracted by a fake issue. The President’s hope is that with this step, we can move on to debating the bigger issues that matter to the American people and the future of the country.




www.whitehouse.gov...




And based on obama's dismal record while president, he will lose the debate he all of the sudden wants to have.
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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by PhotonEffect
If Obama was white no one would care. Gotta love this country and their priorities.

Who cares, just fix our damn problems


Your last statement shows the fallacy of your first.

Poll after poll shows that it is obama's socialist agenda that American's do not like.

And something like 43% of white voters voted for obama.

Lose the race card.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by Skerrako
Ok so Barack Obama's short birth certificate was not enough for you (the one even Hawaiian gets when they are born and is perfectly legal.)

Now he releases his full birth certificate and it's STILL not enough for you?!

What do you want, a video of Obama being born and held up next to a newspaper on the day of his birth?

Would it really matter since all presidents since Kennedy have been controlled in one form on another by TPTB?

Can we drop this childish charade (which seems racially driven) and focus on bigger issues like um.......the collapse of our country?

If any birther dares, please respond.

LET THIS BE THE LAST BIRTHER THREAD


Three words: Honesty, transparency and integrity.


Now, what will it take for you non-birthers to start showing respect towards people with a different opinion?



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by PhotonEffect
If Obama was white no one would care. Gotta love this country and their priorities.

Trump for President!

Palin for President!

Romney for President!

(How about you Gingrich? Wanna get involved?) Newt for President!

Who cares, just fix our damn problems


That's a cheap, lazy, facile and false argument, and totally denies the fact which many black people are totally against Obama's policies and have a deep mistrust of him. What is it with some people. Are black people supposed to be beyond reproach because of the color of their skin? Is any criticism of Obama to be written off as racist?

IMO it's your own comment which is racist, actually.
edit on 27-4-2011 by wcitizen because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 11:58 AM
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Originally posted by centurion1211

Originally posted by xavi1000



How to demonstrate intellectual bankruptcy on ATS?

Playing the race card.

With a cartoon, no less, so you can reach everyone in your peer group.



When people play the race card they are really scraping the barrel - it's the only thing they can think of to defend one of the most abominable and ethically bankrupt presidencies of all time.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 11:59 AM
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I will be happy when he finally admits that he has been implanted by an alien race governed by an evil collective to take over the world for corporate gain and profit. Some might think this is crazy, but it not as crazy as flying some planes into your own buildings so you can start a war. That is crazy, what is even crazier is that it worked as people are to afraid to face it.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 12:02 PM
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You can argue all you want, but that BC is an edited image, anyone who uses graphics software will tell you, you only get layers in editing software, only when using multiple layers, ie putting one image on top of another. A scanner cannot create layers it creates a single image.


First off: I am an artist and musician (University degree in music, minor in art) So Im guessing I understand layering more than you.

A normal computer document can be split into layers. So I am not debunking your "edited layer" claim, but saying that it is perfectly equal chance that it is an unedited document!

An entirely equal chance that the the document is unedited (restated for those hard of thinking)

You could say the last term paper I wrote was "scanned and edited" because you can break nearly any document file into layers!

So tell me, friend what would you need to be convinced? A picture of Barack Obama in the Hawaiian hospital right out of the vaginal cavity next to a newspaper and a clock?

But of course, those would have all been edited in


Birthers are simply the product of fear driven MSM

The whole situation is a misdirection from the NWO anyway, so go ahead and fight this birther battle, and play right into their hands



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 12:02 PM
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This whole birther issue helps Obama, from here on out the MSM is gonna label anyone who brings it up a loon. I thinks its a pretty safe bet that Obama will win in 2012, simply becuase releasing his birth certificate has now magalized the far right. You gotta remember elections are won by independits and having the birthers continue to hound him now that hes released the birth certificate will make it easy for him to play the role of a underdog being hounded by extremists.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 12:02 PM
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Nothing will work.

Because they are mostly Obama supporters.

This is a nefarious campaign designed by the administration. The idea is to get people to think anyone who opposes Obama is crazy and not interested in reality. And it's working.

If you actually oppose Obama, consider this: what's on the news about him? Is it anything real that he's doing right now?

No, it's this distraction from reality, this nonsense.

Birthers love Obama and want everyone to think he's so awesome that the worst thing anyone can say about him is obviously nonsense.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 12:03 PM
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I will be happy when he finally admits that he has been implanted by an alien race governed by an evil collective to take over the world for corporate gain and profit. Some might think this is crazy, but it not as crazy as flying some planes into your own buildings so you can start a war. That is crazy, what is even crazier is that it worked as people are to afraid to face it.


I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not......darn non emotional text



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by welshbeliever
seems like it was a layered image to me ....
www.abovetopsecret.com...


It was just printed out on a computer. So, instead of just printing out the form with fraudulent information, they filled it in with other information, printed it out, then rescanned it, and photoshopped it?

And people think birthers sound crazy.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 12:10 PM
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This is a nefarious campaign designed by the administration. The idea is to get people to think anyone who opposes Obama is crazy and not interested in reality. And it's working.

If you actually oppose Obama, consider this: what's on the news about him? Is it anything real that he's doing right now?

No, it's this distraction from reality, this nonsense.



I am opposed to Obama, not a birther and would not be characterized as crazy. I don't believe in either party, as I am a registered Libertarian.

You're right I haven't heard much true news from Obama recently, but stand completely against him with the Libya military action. They're probably mobilizing for Syria right now.

Right again, this entire birther issue is a non issue. Would it really make a difference if he wasn't born in this country and Joe Biden was president? Not in the least bit. If all these birthers decided to protest the Federal Reserve, maybe we could actually change the current path our nation is on



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by Sinnthia

Originally posted by welshbeliever
seems like it was a layered image to me ....
www.abovetopsecret.com...


It was just printed out on a computer. So, instead of just printing out the form with fraudulent information, they filled it in with other information, printed it out, then rescanned it, and photoshopped it?

And people think birthers sound crazy.


Yes, I just read through that thread as well.

My thoughts after reading through it were, "Uh, oh. Perhaps all the liberal euphoria over the release is just a little premature".



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by centurion1211

Originally posted by PhotonEffect
If Obama was white no one would care. Gotta love this country and their priorities.

Who cares, just fix our damn problems


Your last statement shows the fallacy of your first.

Poll after poll shows that it is obama's socialist agenda that American's do not like.

And something like 43% of white voters voted for obama.

Lose the race card.


For the record, I'm not racist, reside in NYC and I voted for Obama. I think the guy was dealt a crap hand and now to has to try and win with it...

I think this whole thing about his BC is bullsh!t, really, and it's distracting at best... There's a lot of other more important problems this country is facing...

And don't get pissed for calling it as I see it. race is still a major issue here whether you want to see it or not. nd my OPINION, yes my OPINION is that if he were white no one would care where he was born.

Deal with it.
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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by wcitizen

Originally posted by PhotonEffect
If Obama was white no one would care. Gotta love this country and their priorities.

Trump for President!

Palin for President!

Romney for President!

(How about you Gingrich? Wanna get involved?) Newt for President!

Who cares, just fix our damn problems


That's a cheap, lazy, facile and false argument, and totally denies the fact which many black people are totally against Obama's policies and have a deep mistrust of him. What is it with some people. Are black people supposed to be beyond reproach because of the color of their skin? Is any criticism of Obama to be written off as racist?

IMO it's your own comment which is racist, actually.
edit on 27-4-2011 by wcitizen because: (no reason given)


Hear Hear!

Racism still exists in this country whether you want to see it or not.

I am no racist. As I said in another post I voted for Obama and reside and am from NYC. I have many black friends. I'm just calling it as I see it. And it is my opinion that if he were white we wouldn't be having to deal with yet another friggin thread about his stupid birth certificate. You can thank your fellow Americans and the members of this site who care about this crap too much for that...

Too many other REAL problems to worry about than where this man was born.

Give me a friggin break already...



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 12:16 PM
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but why have layers if its supposedly a scan (unlayered) i smell a rat and i really could care less either way, i am an aussie, neither birther or otherwise but that docs not right,
maybe the info on it is correct but it isnt a scan and because of that its smelly.
try it yourself
i did exactly what the OP did
here
www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 12:16 PM
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I agree. Being of Mixed decent,I just wanted to see the long form.No race involved.Not a Birther,Just curiosity.A lot of people wanted to see it. I will always wonder why it took so long.For a President that campaigned on transparency,he sure took his sweet time to produce it. For those who say he didnt have to do this,well,he knows that if he didnt,he wouldnt stand a chance at reelection. This was a distraction to the real issues,and failed policys that he has created.Now he can focus on them.





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