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What would it take to appease some of you Birthers? (last birther thread)

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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by PhotonEffect
reply to post by wcitizen
 


You can disagree all you want, but you do realize that the real motivation behind this ridiculous Birther movement is racially based don't you? If you don't then you should get your . out of the sand.

This whole thing started because some fool thought he was born in Kenya. If he wasn't black no one would have had a reason to check up on him in the first place.

Don't call me racist because I'm calling it as I see it. You're being way too sensitive here. If I had referred to someone by a racial slur or screamed that " I Hate all ( insert group) ! then you'd have a legitimate gripe..

But that never happened, nor would it ever happen because I'm not a racist. So grow some tougher skin.


I disagree with you on pretty much all counts....and I have no wish to continue the discussion with you. I'm happy to accept that you have a completely different opinion from mine. I don't have a problem with that,




posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 04:27 PM
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reply to post by Wherewe.ed
 


No, you didn't answer my question.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 04:36 PM
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You've said that in every one of your posts. I get it you disagree with me.

Why are you in this thread then? If you disagree with me then you disagree with the OP since thats the premise of this thread...

So what do you believe is the root of the birther movement? Religious? Racial? Or Healthcare?



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 05:15 PM
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What would please me the most is the Trial, Conviction and Hanging of Barry Soetoro for the crime of Treason against the True American People.....and not just him alone, mind you, but all of his fascist cohorts also...
edit on 27-4-2011 by Caji316 because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:03 PM
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Wow!, that is some weapons grade derp going on there. You got that shiat cranked to 11, don't ya brah!


Can you possibly elaborate on why those charges should apply here?



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:48 PM
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Now, what will it take for you non-birthers to start showing respect towards people with a different opinion?


For me, I would have to see birthers start respecting themselves and stop looking so foolish. I respect different opinions, but if someone says "cannibalism is good" it's going to be very hard to take them seriously. Just like saying Obama was not born in this country, despite the overwhelming evidence that he is. It's never enough for you guys.

Funny you talk about respect, but you refuse to give the president any in this regard



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:50 PM
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All in all it doesn't matter, our governments are merely puppets to keep us distracted.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:54 PM
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This is an altered and edited document, it has no validity at all. No court of law would accept it as it is.


Except the Supreme Court of the United States right?

READ AND LEARN

and the Hawaiian court of appeals:

READ UP



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:59 PM
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DOES THIS LOOK ORGANIZED TO YOU?


Yes, it does. Didn't all this Trump Birther stuff start happening right when we entered the illegal Libyan war? Gotta keep the sheeple looking elsewhere. Not only are the sheeple distracted, many of us on here are talking about it when it doesnt have any creedence! An iguana could be in the White House and TPTB would still control it to do whatever they want.

The Birth certificate point is moot, and I'm hoping I can sway just one of these birthers I will have succeeded



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:04 PM
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Great links! I read them all. I find it interesting that the both (McCain and Obama had Birth certificate issues........it's almost like no matter who got elected this would of inevitably happened


Futher showing that this debacle may have been planted on both sides by TPTB, to distract the public when they went into their planned middle east excursions.

Thoughts?



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:31 PM
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Well considering he is the first POTUS to ever spent 2 million dollars to " hide " that very document I would say would be a cause for concern.


Actually, the 2 million was in court fees defending himself from people like you who would rip through his entire life chasing a wild rumor.

Is it not bad enough that people discredit all of the obvious evidence right in front of them? Now you attack him for merely defending himself?

If someone was slandering you to the public would you not initiate legal action?

What a wacky world we live in.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:33 PM
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Just confirm that the Hospital name that was used on his birth certificate is not 17 years after her was born.

That would make ME happy and I'm not a birther.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
New thread says otherwise.

A birther sounds like someone waiting for a baby to pop out in a bathtub.

Not my style.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:33 PM
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Originally posted by Skerrako
an we drop this childish charade (which seems racially driven) and focus on bigger issues like um.......the collapse of our country?

If any birther dares, please respond.

LET THIS BE THE LAST BIRTHER THREAD



Racist?
Again?
How about we make this the last time race is used as an accusation towards anyone you simply disagree with.

By the way, your president is contributing quite nicely to the collapse of the country , citizen or not.
Focus on that.
edit on 27-4-2011 by badgerprints because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:35 PM
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What would please me the most is the Trial, Conviction and Hanging of Barry Soetoro for the crime of Treason against the True American People.....and not just him alone, mind you, but all of his fascist cohorts also...


Well if you find a Barry Soetoro anywhere let me know will ya? And by fascist cohorts you mean ever president before him until Kennedy.....right?



Somebody get a load of this this guy



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:39 PM
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RATS already being debunked....

OK How about ATS claims THEY found the birth certificate first and collect on this $100,000 to donate to the owners of ATS for their Presidential campaign launch?

www.wnd.com...

Let's get some good out of this.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:42 PM
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Originally posted by Caji316
What would please me the most is the Trial, Conviction and Hanging of Barry Soetoro
edit on 27-4-2011 by Caji316 because: (no reason given)


If the POTUS did deliberately deceive the American people, then, on the first two accounts, I agree, but hanging?

You'll be disappointed to find that will never happen... unless he's released into someone's custody like you, and I'm sure there are a few in Amurka



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:45 PM
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Racist?
Again?
How about we make this the last time race is used as an accusation towards anyone you simply disagree with.

By the way, your president is contributing quite nicely to the collapse of the country , citizen or not.
Focus on that.


My friend please re-read, I called no one a racist at all. Being racial driven and being a racist are two very different things. I choose my word deliberately, so do not paraphrase.

I say racially driven to express that some people do not believe a black man could of made it to presidency on his own merits. These are the same people that believe Obama was chosen from a young age to become president, and if they "expose" him then he will have to leave office.

That being said, when one mentions race, many say "how dare you bring race into this!" When if fact race is involved. I never called anyone a racist, but it's funny: The more sensitive and explosive someone is about race, the more you can hear racist undertones in what they are saying. Very curious

Yes, my President is doing a phenominal job wrecking our country. It sucks, but this thread is not to address that.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 08:01 PM
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Birthers believe Obama has stalled too long raising suspicions, claims hes a muslim or muslim sympathiser, schooled in Indonesia, links to Kenya and now this unconvincing long form all raise suspicion.
Non birthers believe of course he was born in Hawaii, as if they were born in the bed next to him, why?
edit on 27-4-2011 by lestweforget because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 08:09 PM
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All of this stupid birther nonsense is nothing more than cognitive dissonance (See the description below). These people can't accept the fact that 1. A Black man is president and 2. That he is educated. It sickens me.

We would have the same group of people make the same stupid type of claims if we had a Asian, Jewish or Gay president.



"Cognitive dissonance is a psychological phenomenon which refers to the discomfort felt at a discrepancy between what you already know or believe, and new information or interpretation. It therefore occurs when there is a need to accommodate new ideas, and it may be necessary for it to develop so that we become "open" to them.

Beyond this benign if uncomfortable aspect, however, dissonance can go "over the top", leading to two interesting side-effects for learning:

if someone is called upon to learn something which contradicts what they already think they know — particularly if they are committed to that prior knowledge — they are likely to resist the new learning. Even Carl Rogers recognised this. Accommodation is more difficult than Assimilation, in Piaget's terms.
and—counter-intuitively, perhaps—if learning something has been difficult, uncomfortable, or even humiliating enough, people are less likely to concede that the content of what has been learned is useless, pointless or valueless. To do so would be to admit that one has been "had", or "conned"." - From the Higher Education Academy website.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 08:56 PM
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Non birthers believe of course he was born in Hawaii, as if they were born in the bed next to him, why?


Maybe because of the 2 birth certificates he has produced, his birth was announced in the newspaper, (which came directly from the hospital, not his parents), The governor of Hawaii seeing Obama (friends with his mom), pictures of him attending school in Hawaii, and countless other people that knew him while he was there.

Now will you kindly present the evidence that he wasn't born here please?



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