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posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 07:59 PM
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Here we will examine what the Prince of Peace meant by this saying by examining the whole speech he gave his Apostles before sending them out. As always, I will provide my commentary which may conflict with what you have already been told. This is just another point of view for you to consider.



5These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 6But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.


Notice first who the apostles are sent to minister to. Not the Gentiles, but the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Why would that be? The Gentiles did not have a state religion. They had freedom of religion. All could choose from a myriad of Cults or no cult at all. They could believe what ever they wanted so long as they obeyed the Roman Laws. The Jews however, had a very strict religious code that they had to abide by. Those who did not were shunned, stoned, or put to death. These were who Christ came to heal. He said so in his sermon on the Mount. The Gentiles simply did not need his teachings.


7And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.


What is the Kingdom of Heaven? Christ stated elsewhere "The Kingdom of Heaven is within you." and his parables "The Pearl of Great Price" and "The Hidden Treasure", both elude to the deeper meaning of the Kingdom of Heaven. Plainly, the Kingdom of Heaven is your own conscience, the voice within you, your own personal connection to the divine. What Christ was teaching that brought healing to the masses was freedom of conscience.


8Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils:


What are the sick? Those who the Pharisees deemed to be spiritually (mentally) ill. Those who suffered from such illnesses as sexual promiscuity, uncontrollable rage, thieves, and other violations of the religious code

Who are the lepers? Those who were deemed unclean, impure, unworthy to hold any station in the society. These are the rejects and outcasts of Jewish society.

Who are the dead? Those who have given up on living as their conscience dictates due to fear of condemnation.

What are the devils being cast out? Those would be the guilt and agony caused by a subdued conscience and a constant feeling of low self worth. The devils are what causes the illnesses of the sick.

So how did they heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, and cast out devils? They did what Christ said he would do in his Sermon on the Mount. They comforted those who mourned, they relieved those who suffered in the name of righteousness, they loved all, they judged none, they taught them they were NORMAL, that all were Children of God.


freely ye have received, freely give. 9Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses, 10Nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat.


They did all this taking nothing for their provisions, and accepting nothing but food and shelter for payment. Such was the purity of their mission.


11And into whatsoever city or town ye shall enter, inquire who in it is worthy; and there abide till ye go thence. 12And when ye come into an house, salute it. 13And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you.


Into what ever house that said it was worthy they entered. They did not judge the house, they let the house judge them. If they were received and listened to peacefully, they dwelt and healed. If they were not welcome, they left.


14And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. 15Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.


Sodom and Gomorrha were destroyed for their inhospitality towards travellers. So too will any city which becomes so deprived of humanity that a wandering traveller is not welcome.


16Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.


Who are the wolves? The Apostles were travelling only in the cities of Israel. The wolves then would be the Pharisees. They were the ones threatened by Christ's teachings. It was their power that was being challenged. They had a money making machine that kept them wealthy. If you broke one of their laws, you had to make an animal sacrifice to repent. The animals had to be bought from the Pharisees. So they make the laws, assign the penalty for breaking the laws, and sell the animals used for repentance. So power and wealth were at stake here.


17But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues; 18And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles.


Here is Christ's warning that what they were doing would anger the Pharisees, Kings, AND the Gentiles. The Gentiles had a power structure in place as well. Any freethinking man is a threat to any system of control. This is a testimony against any oppressive regime, for if a man is punished for simply speaking freely his mind, then the cruelty of the regime is self evident to all.

BE WARNED


19But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. 20For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.


Speak your conscience! No man should fear another when he speaks his conscience.


21And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.


Ever since the day we are born our conscience is ruled over by others. Freeing oneself from that bondage strains relationships with those stuck in the system of control. Fear keeps people in line. So great is the fear that brother will deliver up brother to death, the father the child, and the children will rise against their own parents and cause them to be put to death. This is a social revolution. Freedom is never free.


22And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.


Chaos makes men crazy. Even the free despise their liberator when left with the uncertainty of chaos. But those who can make it through the chaos, the seeming disorder that comes from making a free society, those WILL be saved! Those will LIVE, those will be FREE!


23But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.


So from city to city they went preparing the way for Christ to come teach his message of peace, freedom, and love.


24The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord. 25It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household?


As Christ viewed his disciples as equal with himself, so to would they suffer as he did.


26Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.


When the walls of tyranny crumble, then the masses get to look behind the curtain of their slave masters to see what all was done to lead them into captivity. Then is when the masses will learn the truth, and the disciples will have their redemption in their eyes.


27What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops. 28And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.


What is hell? It is a place of eternal torment, a place of captivity, a place of suffering. Hell is living against your own conscience. Hell is being imprisoned in your MIND. Hell is a tyrannical regime which oppresses your mind, body, and your very soul, that eternal desire to LIVE and LOVE. Fear Hell, not death.


29Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father. 30But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. 31Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows.


Such is the value of every person on this planet. Not a single one is deserving to be constrained against their conscience. None are deserving to be left to suffer. None are deserving of oppression.


32Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.


Whoever confesses Christ is the Son, so too will Christ confess is the Son.


33But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.


Who ever denies Christ is the Son, so too will Christ deny is the Son. Christ ALWAYS taught equality. His message was never about his exclusive divinity. It was ALWAYS about our mutual divinity.


34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.


Can you see peace coming from his message so far? Hardly! It is a message to call the dead from their tombs and live again! It is a message to rise up from your serfdom and be counted as a King among Kings. His sword IS the sword of truth, and he brought it!


35For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.


Look at your family today. If you told them you love them no more than a total stranger, what war would be under your roof? Such is the nature of equality. You either believe in it, or not.


37He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.


Those who love anyone MORE than another are not doing what Christ said. None should love anyone MORE than another. That leads to iniquity. Christ never said to love anyone less, no you should love ALL with as you love yourself.



39He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. 40He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me. 41He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward.


So who out there are really working for their reward? Who out there is really carrying their cross in Christ's name? Who out there is REALLY walking in Christ's shoes? Who out there can stand and proclaim with authority that they are FREE and no man rules over them. Who will suffer for freedom and love as Christ has suffered? Who ever received me received Christ. Can you say likewise?


42And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward.


Here is your drink of cold water, in Christ's name I give it.

With Love,

Your Brother
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posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 08:12 PM
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I fine sermon. Nothing earth-shaking for people that have been through adult Bible classes, but a fine message for people who have not.

Star.



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 08:19 PM
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Originally posted by WickettheRabbit
I fine sermon. Nothing earth-shaking for people that have been through adult Bible classes, but a fine message for people who have not.

Star.


Thanks my friend. It is more or less a reminder, part of a series I am putting together here.



With Love,

Your Brother



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 08:22 PM
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Well done.

I am no longer a professing Christian, myself, but I am deeply spiritual and this message really gets across the whole point of the Christ story.

At least to me


It's things of this nature that have made me think that I understand the message of Christ much more now than I ever did when I was religious lol
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posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 08:34 PM
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I love it! This is a beautiful interpretation, and goes along very closely with my own thoughts on the subject.
Let me add this one question... food for thought...
What if the second coming is not meant to be a physical manifestation of Christ? What if the meaning is that his true teachings/meanings will return, available to the masses? Those who are not prepared for the truth will be taken off guard ("I will come like a thief in the night") but those who are open to it and know deep within will know and be joyous.



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 08:40 PM
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Originally posted by avatar22
I love it! This is a beautiful interpretation, and goes along very closely with my own thoughts on the subject.
Let me add this one question... food for thought...
What if the second coming is not meant to be a physical manifestation of Christ? What if the meaning is that his true teachings/meanings will return, available to the masses? Those who are not prepared for the truth will be taken off guard ("I will come like a thief in the night") but those who are open to it and know deep within will know and be joyous.


Absolutely my friend. You may enjoy this as well...

Christ is the Messiah



With Love,

Your Brother



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 04:52 AM
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I am definitely going to have to read through all of your threads. Your visions are not exactly my own, but your message is the same! I have always lived in a small town in the center of "the bible belt" so the only exposure to other religions I have received has been through my own search, and a small hand full of people I have met. Even as a child I could not understand why the Christian path was the only way. What of those who have never heard of Jesus? Would such a loving God send them to hell? What of those who are from another religion and have been raised, much as I was, that theirs is the only way? Who is right? That is what began my search for truth, and though I no longer consider myself Christian, I do believe that Jesus was one of many great teachers sent to us throughout the ages. Their messages are one and the same... Love and compassion for all.
I look forward to hearing what else you have to say.
Peace and love be with you



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 01:50 PM
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What if the second coming is not meant to be a physical manifestation of Christ?


Hey, i was looking forward to that! Now i have doubts in my mind. Another physical manifestation would surely prove miracles and other divine magic, but how would you verify it was Jesus Christ? Maybe it's Obama, maybe's it's the Catholic Pope.

I think this is why i tend to stay from this, too many follow-up questions.

Very detailed OP anyway, i'll be lurking.
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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 01:53 PM
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He means Christ is within us all...He's not comming back as a person...

I actually would lean more towards that belief as well

Wonderful thread btw...

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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 02:02 PM
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Nice belief, so let's get this straight - The physical manifestation prophesized in the bible is just talking about every human being having Christ "within them"? An honest question - I'm going research the philosophy behind these bible passages now.

Becuase i was under the impression that everyone was born with sin, and they need to recognise it and get rid of it. Thought that was the premise for the Christian belief?

I.e. I thought you could only have "Christ within you" if you accept Christ.

I must not be feeling it. Perhaps i'm possessed.

Another question - Does your "average" Christian believe in Heaven and Hell? For instance, would God punish Ghandi for not adhering to doctrine? (old or new testament)

When i say the average Christian, i mean the "moderates" who ignore some passages and respect others.

Thanks in advance.

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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by awake_and_aware
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Nice belief, so let's get this straight - The physical manifestation prophesized in the bible is just talking about every human being having Christ "within them"? An honest question - I'm going research the philosophy behind these bible passages now.

Becuase i was under the impression that everyone was born with sin, and they need to recognise it and get rid of it. Thought that was the premise for the Christian belief?

I.e. I thought you could only have "Christ within you" if you accept Christ.

I must not be feeling it. Perhaps i'm possessed.

Another question - Does your "average" Christian believe in Heaven and Hell? For instance, would God punish Ghandi for not adhering to doctrine? (old or new testament)

When i say the average Christian, i mean the "moderates" who ignore some passages and respect others.

Thanks in advance.

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well thats a better attitude then i was getting yesterday... my thanks
and im happy to answer you!


Becuase i was under the impression that everyone was born with sin, and they need to recognise it and get rid of it. Thought that was the premise for the Christian belief?


Just a misunderstanding of Original sin...we're all born into sin due to our past incarnations.... But i won't get into karma cause its off topic(kinda)....keep in mind im not christian.


I thought you could only have "Christ within you" if you accept Christ.


nope, that again is christian tactic to convert others to their belief system.... we all have the eternal spirit within us regardless of your belief in it. I've asked some people here about that before..... "hey what about the people in this world that have never heard of christ? Are they doomed?" .... So far i've got.... Christs teachings will be taught through out the world regardless of others beliefs...then the end will come.


And!!


Yes, if they don't believe in Christ they are doomed to hell... Both of which are just garbage (imho)


Another question - Does your "average" Christian believe in Heaven and Hell? For instance, would God punish Ghandi for not adhering to doctrine? (old or new testament)


As far as i know they believe in both heaven and hell... but God doesn't punish you for your beliefs. Though if you do sin against the spirit which is to bring harm to another of Gods creations... i believe your Karma will catch up with you. Ghandi was the one who said.... I don't like christians, they're so not Christ like.




posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by awake_and_aware
Nice belief, so let's get this straight - The physical manifestation prophesized in the bible is just talking about every human being having Christ "within them"? An honest question - I'm going research the philosophy behind these bible passages now.


That is how Christ himself returned. In fact, Christ is within you now. You are speaking of him, he is on your mind, therefore, he is in your conscience, he is within YOU.

He also said many false Christ's would come, to not believe them. So if someone starts saying they are Christ come follow me, you know they are not speaking of the real Christ. The real Christ is within you. Don't focus on the word Christ, it is the spirit which animated the man called Christ. The very spirit which animates you. Call it what ever you want.


Originally posted by awake_and_aware
Becuase i was under the impression that everyone was born with sin, and they need to recognise it and get rid of it. Thought that was the premise for the Christian belief?


This was the Jewish belief that Christ was teaching against. If you accept that there is sin, the don't do what is sinful. What ever law you bind yourself by, that is the law you should uphold. Let those who wish to be judged by moses, be judged by moses. I will be judged by the law of Christ, which is simply to love one another.


Originally posted by awake_and_aware
I.e. I thought you could only have "Christ within you" if you accept Christ.


What Christ asked his followers was to accept him as the Son of God, in exchange, he accepted them as children of God. It is a mutual exchange my friend. It is saying we are both of the divine and ought to treat each other as such.


Originally posted by awake_and_aware
I must not be feeling it. Perhaps i'm possessed.


Yes indeed. You are possessed if your flesh still has life.


Originally posted by awake_and_aware
Another question - Does your "average" Christian believe in Heaven and Hell? For instance, would God punish Ghandi for not adhering to doctrine? (old or new testament)

When i say the average Christian, i mean the "moderates" who ignore some passages and respect others.

Thanks in advance.

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Now you have me at a disadvantage. I am not a Christian. I am just a follower of Christ, and these are my own views on what he taught.



With Love,

Your Brother



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 02:29 PM
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Just a misunderstanding of Original sin...we're all born into sin due to our past incarnations


I'm aware of the Original sin theory,but why should i be bound by a human sacrifice that took place over 1000 years ago?

As you can't prove this "sin" theory. Doesn't it seem offensive to those without belief to say they are naturally "evil" or naturally "disobedient"?


we all have the eternal spirit within us regardless of your belief in it


It's not that i believe or disbelief. I suspend judgement when i don't have evidence, that's why i don't claim to know whether God exdists. I'm just interested in the evidence or perhaps reason why you, personally, might believe in this theory.


Christs teachings will be taught through out the world regardless of others beliefs...then the end will come


Interesting. Seems quite similar to Islam's prophecy and commandments.


Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."


I'm glad that you don't seem to be preaching that anyway


His message about the end isn't wrong. Few billion years SHTF.


As far as i know they believe in both heaven and hell... but God doesn't punish you for your beliefs. Though if you do sin against the spirit which is to bring harm to another of Gods creations... i believe your Karma will catch up with you. Ghandi was the one who said.... I don't like christians, they're so not Christ like.


Again, what if you "Sin" and you don't realise it? It makes the heaven and hell preaching useless, why not just live the life the best you can (Atheist's Wager)?


Be interesting to hear your opinion on discussion. What are your thoughts? Agree with Bill?



Cheers,
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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 02:42 PM
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Another reason i cannot believe in divine eternal punishment or karma is the issue of rehabilitation, redemption.

You have someone who kills a man, and regrets for all of their life and even begs for forgiveness from those who he hurt, don't they get a second chance on "judgement day" Don't they get a chance as they felt guilt all their lives? Or is it just straight to the fiery pit?

I imagine you don't exactly get a lawyer on judgement day, and God certainly is no merciful "judge"


In regards to karma - I believe it can be over-exaggerated, even misinterpreted as supernatural instead of coincidence - and there are many killers who live a happy, carefree life without "bad karma" coming their way. Is their really a force of "justice" out there? Other than the beings who developed the word "justice" and the meaning behind it?
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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 02:49 PM
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As you can't prove this "sin" theory. Doesn't it seem offensive to those without belief to say they are naturally "evil" or naturally "disobedient"?


I don't believe in Evil or Good, both are man made theories... Disobedient to who....God? All God wants is for you to live your life the best you can. Religious wants your alliegence...God already has it no matter what you believe...


It's not that i believe or disbelief. I suspend judgement when i don't have evidence, that's why i don't claim to know whether God exdists. I'm just interested in the evidence or perhaps reason why you, personally, might believe in this theory


thats fine with me... My evidence is my own, it doesn't matter what i tell you... We've delt with this before so i really don't need to tell you my beliefs because we both know what will happen...though i am just assuming.


His message about the end isn't wrong. Few trillion years SHTF.


I disagree, this world will not end anytime soon....and no one alive now will see that time when it does come.


Again, what if you "Sin" and you don't realise it? It makes the heaven and hell preaching useless, why not just live the life the best you can (Atheist's Wager)?


What if you do "sin"? Makes no difference to me...sin against the spirit and it will bite you in the ass...Karma is a bitch man....be mindful of it.


Interesting video btw...though i think both ideas are flawed... If there is a hell (which i don't believe there is) it is reserved for those who refuse to learn over their incarnations. Murderers and rapists are subject to their own Karma. Personlly i believe those people are doomed to their own acts.....If you kill, you will be killed in another life of course, perhaps the death penalty in this life i don't know, im not God those are judgements reserved for him.... as should all judgements be.

Regardless though, when they die...they too will return home. But once they get there...well again who knows, but if i were God i'd be pissed if you were killing my creations.




posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 02:51 PM
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Originally posted by awake_and_aware
Another reason i cannot believe in divine eternal punishment or karma is the issue of rehabilitation, redemption.

You have someone who kills a man, and regrets for all of their life and even begs for forgiveness from those who he hurt, don't they get a second chance on "judgement day" Don't they get a chance as they felt guilt all their lives? Or is it just straight to the fiery pit?

I imagine you don't exactly get a lawyer on judgement day, and God certainly is no merciful "judge"


In regards to karma - I believe it can be over-exaggerated, even misinterpreted as supernatural instead of coincidence - and there are many killers who live a happy, carefree life without "bad karma" coming their way. Is their really a force of "justice" out there? Other than the beings who developed the word "justice" and the meaning behind it?
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This comes down to your personal belief... there are also murderers out there who do not care what they did. They never get caught...so believing they just get off scott free. I just don't buy it.

my thread on Karma...

www.abovetopsecret.com...




posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 02:56 PM
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Originally posted by awake_and_aware
Another reason i cannot believe in divine eternal punishment or karma is the issue of rehabilitation, redemption.

You have someone who kills a man, and regrets for all of their life and even begs for forgiveness from those who he hurt, don't they get a second chance on "judgement day" Don't they get a chance as they felt guilt all their lives? Or is it just straight to the fiery pit?

I imagine you don't exactly get a lawyer on judgement day, and God certainly is no merciful "judge"


In regards to karma - I believe it can be over-exaggerated, even misinterpreted as supernatural instead of coincidence - and there are many killers who live a happy, carefree life without "bad karma" coming their way. Is their really a force of "justice" out there? Other than the beings who developed the word "justice" and the meaning behind it?
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Imagine this with me my friend. Imagine that there is a divine consciousness. Just pretend for a moment. This divine consciousness created all that is. After creating all that is this divine consciousness wanted to replicate itself in a way which can explore what it created. So he created life. Complex life that evolves and explores every layer of what was created. That life that was created continually creates copies of this divine consciousness so that every inch and every layer of the creation can be explored.

That is what we start out as at birth. When we are born we are blank slates here to explore. We are aspects, images of the divine. We will become that which we experience. If the creation is cruel and tormenting, we become little devils to all those around us. We hurt others because we have been hurt. We value what we are taught to value. We love when we are loved in return and when we do not receive love, we turn to material things to fill the void.

Original Sin is the first time man hurt man. This caused the cycle of distrust and hate that is now culminating in our world. The only way to overcome it is with forgiveness. We must change as a people. We must love and forgive, or our hate and selfishness will destroy us.

We are images of the divine and we now possess godly power to annihilate each other with. We must choose to change, or face our destruction.

It is not about being Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Black, White, Liberal, or Conservative.

It is and always has been about being Man, and endowed with the free will to make choices.

I choose to treat all as the divine. I hope others will make that choice as well.

With Love,

Your Brother



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 03:03 PM
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well said my friend...your words are always inspiring




posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 03:17 PM
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After creating all that is this divine consciousness wanted to replicate itself in a way which can explore what it created. So he created life. Complex life that evolves and explores every layer of what was created.


So before the gallaxies the development of stars and cosmic gases forming stars, and before life had "begun" - What was "GOD" doing? What plain of reality does he exist on, why suddenly decide? Who created this consciousness? And what created that?


That life that was created continually creates copies of this divine consciousness so that every inch and every layer of the creation can be explored.


I'm with you, i'm asking follow up questions above. i'm entertaining this possibility.


That is what we start out as at birth. When we are born we are blank slates here to explore. We are aspects, images of the divine.


So, we're "blank slates" i can understand that (innocence) i.e. Every baby is an atheist, it doesn't have any understanding of God and thus no beliefs. Then what about animals? Some arn't nessasarily "blank slates" - Some mothers leave offspring when they are still in the egg, the bird learns for itself by intuition. (it has to, or it may die)

Fact is, we're not different to animals, and we, like animals were just "eat, sleep, reproduce" - now it's "eat, sleep, reproduce and ponder about the meaning of life" - It's not that we're more special than animals, it's that our brains have evolved differently.


Original Sin is the first time man hurt man.


And God certainly was angry, and did send a flood to kill ALL of human kind (except Noah and the animals)

Makes me think that original sin is a rediculous theory coming from the same ideology that believes geological events are dictated by a supernatural being.


We are images of the divine and we now possess godly power to annihilate each other with. We must choose to change, or face our destruction.


If we are, animals are too - WOuld you agree, they commit sin all the time by killing each other, and you say life is the image of the Gods? Virus? Bacteria? Parasites? Vermon?

Problem of Evil again. I'm afraid.

Would you respond to each of my questions, as detailed as possible if you have time.

Thanks brother
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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 03:26 PM
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They never get caught...so believing they just get off scott free. I just don't buy it.


Again, no problem. You believe this because you believe in karma. It would seem a rediculous idea that someone might get off scott free. Obviously, it is, like you say, a difference in beliefs. We'll have to agree to disagree. We have no further evidence to exchange regarding karma so we can no longer progress this discussion.

Despite my beliefs, i do think My Name is Earl certainly is a fantastic show. Always loved Jason Lee.

Peace
edit on 27/4/11 by awake_and_aware because: (no reason given)






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