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Originally posted by ViperChili
Originally posted by aching_knuckles
Our Congress, with its powers granted BY THE CONSTITUTION, has enacted these programs by law, therefore making them lawful, and Constitutional. Im sorry you dont like it, BUT THATS HOW IT IS IN AMERICA.
Just because you think it is uncontitutional does not make it so! Im sorry, but you lost and you are wrong. Get over it.
Huh?
You think Congress makes everything Constitutional simply by passing bills into law?
You cannot be serious.
If indeed you are serious, and have somehow remembered to breathe today, you have a gross misunderstanding of Constitutional law and governmental functions in general.
Wow, I seriously never thought anyone could actually be that ignorant while still choosing to debate a topic.
Originally posted by ViperChili
reply to post by aching_knuckles
A little historical context would be in order here [snip].
Indians were raping and killing each other long before Europeans ever showed up.
You act as if they are all victim and hold no responsibility whatsoever.
Originally posted by aching_knuckles
Originally posted by ViperChili
Originally posted by aching_knuckles
Our Congress, with its powers granted BY THE CONSTITUTION, has enacted these programs by law, therefore making them lawful, and Constitutional. Im sorry you dont like it, BUT THATS HOW IT IS IN AMERICA.
Just because you think it is uncontitutional does not make it so! Im sorry, but you lost and you are wrong. Get over it.
Huh?
You think Congress makes everything Constitutional simply by passing bills into law?
You cannot be serious.
If indeed you are serious, and have somehow remembered to breathe today, you have a gross misunderstanding of Constitutional law and governmental functions in general.
Wow, I seriously never thought anyone could actually be that ignorant while still choosing to debate a topic.
By passing the bill into law, the president signs, and then never struck down by the Supreme Court, this sounds like a Constituional law to me...all 3 branches did their job.
What part of that do you consider Unconstitutional?
The President might not sign the bill, however. If he specifically rejects the bill, called a veto, the bill returns to Congress. There it is voted on again, and if both houses of Congress pass the bill again, but this time by a two-thirds majority, then the bill becomes law without the President's signature. This is called "overriding a veto," and is difficult to do because of the two-thirds majority requirement.
Originally posted by Whereweheaded
You do realize that there are bills that never get signed by the POTUS right?
Further solidifies you lack of Constitutional knowledge.
Originally posted by ViperChili
Your understanding of Constitutional law is tremendously flawed. That is not opinion, that is fact. You clearly have no idea of the very few and enumerated powers Congress has according to the Constitution.
The fact you are too dense to understand you are wrong is not surprising given your posting history here.
Originally posted by Whereweheaded
reply to post by Aggie Man
Um, you may need to re-read Article 1 sect 1.
All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.
A1 section 1 suggests that the legislative powers be vested in the Congress.
you answered your own statement, provision, not law. thus Unconstitutional.
Originally posted by aching_knuckles
Originally posted by Whereweheaded
You do realize that there are bills that never get signed by the POTUS right?
Further solidifies you lack of Constitutional knowledge.
Yes, those bills that arent signed are NEVER ENACTED INTO LAW. You just keep lying and obfuscating.
BILLS THAT ARE LAWS HAVE BEEN VOTED ON IN CONGRESS, SIGNED BY THE PREZ, AND NOT CHALLENGED IN THE SUPREME COURT.
WHEN THIS HAPPENS, THEY ARE CONSTITUTIONAL LAWS.
You seem to think these are UNCONSITUTIONAL laws. Who is the one without knowledge? You 3 are all arguing the same point. You 3 are the people that are Unconstitutional...you want to overthrow our peacfully made laws and make your own government.
Officially, after the President signs the bill, 10 days passes without a signature, or after a veto override, the bill is considered law. It is in effect at that moment. But in reality, it is, of course, more difficult than that. The law is transmitted to the Archivist of the United States. The Archivist assigns the law a number. The Archivist publishes the law on its own, as a pamphlet. This is known as a slip law. The slip law contains a lot more than just the text of the law itself, such as where it is be inserted in the United States Code, if at all; its legislative history; the committees through which it passed; and so on. In effect, the slip law is a historical document in itself. The law is also published in the United States Statutes at Large, The Statutes at Large is a collection of all laws passed in any given Congress.
Originally posted by ViperChili
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