Israeli schoolbus hit with anti-tank weapon fired from Gaza, critically wounding teen

reply to post by SpeachM1litant

Gosh, I hate to continue to disagree with you, but recent developments are NOT why Israelis are being attacked.

You really need to go back to the Qur'an and Hadith for those answers.

It goes back a bit further than the sixties, seventies, eighties or nineties.

reply to post by FarArcher


I like the fact that you continuosly expose yourself by resulting to the use of childish insults.

reply to post by SpeachM1litant

Are you shucking me?

You are dead serious, aren't you.

My God, if what I say is true about this, and it's NOT a Roman event recently developed, then your whole premise goes out the window, doesn't it?

Oh my God. I'm sorry.

I inadvertently just blew your whole boat out of the water.

Go study it. Qur'an. Hadith.

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by jackflap

 

Have you noticed how not one of the pro-Israel, anti-Muslim crowd has actually extended any sympathy for the child?

It's as if that's just incidental the actual real human beings touched by the tragedy, that the incident for propaganda value and hate value, and for war, war, and more war is all they see this poor young man's life as.

I find that rather odd and very circumspect, the have plenty of hate to share, but not a word of sorrow or sympathy for the boy or his family.

How very sad.

nor have THEY, as far as up to your post at 11:36am PST 4/17/11, even hinted at the real issue here.

THEY don't seem to want to take resposability for not preventing the problem in the first place.

the whole result is THEIR fault ... their IDF is listless and slow.

with the whole region on fire for the last few months, I would sure be on the lookout for these things !!!

IF and I repeat, IF this is a genuine attack and death (and I still think this is all staged), then the blood is clearly on Isreal's hands.


YOU let it happen, YOU are doing the blaming, YOU have made victims of YOURSELVES.

Proto and jackflap are right ..... fighting is NOT the answer....

with all of Israel's failures, I still am amazed that THEY havn't at least attempted to negotiate (that is, negotiate without fibbing and BS'ing) an end to these issues !!!!!!

by the way, IF any ATS members actually live in Israel, WHY are you even on the internet for as many hours as YOU are ?????

If I lived there, I would easily take some initiative and at least volunteer all my waking hours to solving the problem .... better yet, how 'bout PREVENTING them in the first place ??????

YOU are not doing your jobs very well over there. That goes for BOTH sides.

reply to post by xuenchen

You know, I agree that these attacks are the fault of Israel.

They haven't made it expensive enough in the past to prohibit further attacks.

It's got to be a hard, hard lesson for the attacks on Israel to stop.

Good heads up, man.

reply to post by FarArcher


Hey man, you may have missed that last post of mine about the way Israeli officers and soldiers cannot be held responsible for killing civilians. That's cool if you missed it. Hey, check this out.

"Void of Responsibility" Sample Case: On 13 Jan. '09, soldiers took Yasser a-Tmeizi, father of two, from his field and led him handcuffed to Tarqumya checkpoint, where they shot him to death. For over a year, the investigation file has awaited a decision by the Judge Advocate General's Office. B'Tselem's repeated inquiries as to the results of the investigation have gone unanswered.

www.btselem.org...

reply to post by jackflap

My bad. I went to the site and read it.

I don't approve and certainly don't condone shooting prisoners - even if they pushed back.

I also am familiar with the routine where a weapon is placed within grasp of a prisoner, with the full hope they'll make a lunge for it. That's not cool either.

The fact that this man's young son was with him makes this a hundred-fold more regretful.

Originally posted by mick1423

Originally posted by Josephus23
reply to post by FarArcher

 

Sooooo, let me get this straight.

You went into another country and killed people in that country, but yet YOU saved people?

You should not have been there in the first place.

And in my opinion by killing people you did just that.

FarArcher, i must say that Josephus23 is 100% right on this one..!

I will STAR your post my friend .....

in advance of reading beyond .. you guys are moving faster than I can comprehend !

I am a slow reader .... much like the IDF and Hamas's (especially when it comes to history)

Originally posted by FarArcher
reply to post by xuenchen

 

You know, I agree that these attacks are the fault of Israel.

They haven't made it expensive enough in the past to prohibit further attacks.

It's got to be a hard, hard lesson for the attacks on Israel to stop.

Good heads up, man.

I still havn't caught up on the thread...but

FINALLY I see you make at least one intelligable statement.

I think you and the others need to wake up and smell the coffee...even if it's not Kosher.

Originally posted by FarArcher
reply to post by jackflap

 

I only relayed my own part of one incident.

This young man who got killed on a schoolbus - a SCHOOLBUS - ]i]where one would assume a degree of safety, is a shame.

Now I don't know what his family members will do.

I only know what I would do.

again, I not up to par on the posts yet.

but IT SURE IS a shame !!!!!!

where was IDF ??? they failed to provide THAT DEGREE OF SAFETY

still hiding in the bushes ?

they've been "under attack" for soooo long now.

failure is not a better part of valor .... or is it ?

reply to post by nenothtu


If you don't like what I post then that is fine.

I suspect that most military establishment types will not agree with me, but I think that you have mischaracterized me.

We (as in the US) are in the Middle East based upon a total and complete lie.

A fabrication.

A falsehood.

We are not helping anyone and we are not defending anyone defenseless.

We are killing innocent people who see an invading force on their land.
If, for some reason, the US became an inferior country militarily and we were invaded by others then you can for sure bet that the people in this country would be doing the exact same thing as the people of Iraq.

As the people of Vietnam.

It is no different.

We have killed over a million civilians in Iraq.

A MILLION.

That is one heck of a number.

We, as in the US, are not the world's police.
We need to stop thinking that our sense of morality should be enforced on the rest of the world.

I don't really have an issue with anything that you have posted nenothtu.
I may disagree with your hessian type nature regarding money and military service, but that is quite a different subject than the OP of this thread.

Thanks.

reply to post by xuenchen

I THINK you perceive me as an Israeli, or Jewish.

I'm a nordic gentile, protestant.

Sorry.

Although, I do love kosher foods. When I worked for the Treasury Department in Miami, they had some mighty fine delis and kosher foods.

Of course, I love barbeque pork and ribs - Louisiana style.

reply to post by Josephus23

You say we killed a million civilians in Iraq.

There are just over thirty million population.

That's one in thirty.

In your dreams.

Originally posted by SpeachM1litant
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

I'd like to add, that all you have to do is take a glance through B'Tselem the Israeli Centre for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories, Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International to find cases of IDF war crimes commited by soldiers in occupied Palestine.

and if that's the best they can do,

it's no wonder they keep getting shot in the butt with pea-shooters !!!!

my superiors have informed me to file all news articles about the boy's tragic death under .... you guessed it ...

false-flag

its another part of the game.

my superiors also routinely convey their distinct anger with both sides here.

they are both miserable failures. militarily and political.

TPTB are going to make a decision on this matter very soon !!!

Originally posted by FarArcher
reply to post by xuenchen

 

I THINK you perceive me as an Israeli, or Jewish.

I'm a nordic gentile, protestant.

Sorry.

Although, I do love kosher foods. When I worked for the Treasury Department in Miami, they had some mighty fine delis and kosher foods.

Of course, I love barbeque pork and ribs - Louisiana style.

wrong.

I have no perceptions at all.

only responding as I see the cards fall ...

I'm the same way on the food !!!

reply to post by xuenchen

You sure have a lot of superiors.

And those PTB?

They can't pull their own chestnuts out of the fire, so I doubt Israel is too worried about them.

reply to post by centurion1211

Centurion, these guys are on a roll, and you're going to blow them out of their gig.

You have to admit, the error, even though an error, is certainly cool looking.

Almost looks like they know what they're doing.

And if anyone ever needed some additional plumbing . . .

reply to post by xuenchen


I think it's time to get back to the false flag approach that many of us are investigating and to start posting some research on the many past Israel False Flags as I too, still am inclined to believe this is a false flag.

I don't think it wise for so many off topic posts and posters to derail that particular angle of the thread.

There certainly is wealth of information to be posted in this regard.

You have contributed a bunch of great information and pictures towards that angle, I sure would love to see more on it.