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Originally posted by davespanners
So what is the best way to restrain an 8 year old? I'm assuming there nothing in the training manual about it.
If you make a grab for them then you risk breaking his bones, if you push him down you risk knocking him unconscious, as you dislike the pepper spray I doubt your going to be happy about a quick tazering. so what would you suggest?
It sounds like a large net might have been a good choice as I doubt the cop was trained in exorcism and didnt have a copy of the bible to hand
Originally posted by v1rtu0s0
reply to post by 2manyquestions
Are there not situations that happen like this everyday that are delt with by maybe....outsmarting the child?
Originally posted by Djarums
This should not have happened.
The kid should never have been in the classroom to begin with. When you have one student who has caused multiple incidents with law enforcement involvement what you have is a classroom where no one is learning. Clearly the teachers and other staff of the school are not equipped to deal with this particular student. That's not a bad thing... some students require more individual attention than others, and he is clearly one of them. However, the cause of this incident is clearly the lack of responsibility by the parents and the school administration to recognize that this formula is not working.
The above is hindsight and obviously too late for this particular incident.
Once the incident actually happens you are faced with a very difficult decision. First, by leaving the room the teachers gave the boy full control of the situation. He has anger issues, as he so clearly states in the interview. Now, I don't know if the teachers attempted to talk him down or just said "Ah crap, he's going bonkers again, let's get out of here" but by leaving him in control of the room the situation escalated. Would this have turned out differently if the boy was not able to fashion himself a weapon out of the wood paneling? I think so.
As far as the police go, clearly this is not a cut and dry situation. The police were called and informed that there was a threat to the safety of teachers and other students. Their responsibility is to make the scene safe while doing as little as harm as possible. The boy's age creates a problem. Due to anatomical differences there are certain options that are contraindicated, specifically the Taser which could very easily cause an arrhythmia to a child. Pepper spray isn't exactly ideal either considering the sensitive smaller airways that children have.
Unfortunately regardless of the methods used, any physical action whatsoever taken by the police in this situation was going to open them up to criticism. If they wrestled the plank away from him they would have been accused of excessive force as well. This was not going to have a happy ending regardless of the course of action. Judging by the video statements, by the time someone walked in and said "give me the stick" to him, that person might have ended up injured, which is not a risk the police are going to take either.
Again, this was a bad situation that did not have the option of a peaceful ending.
Fault? Well... it's easy to blame the cops. It's also easy to blame the "crazy kid" isn't it. But the kid is just that... a kid. His parents and the local school officials are the ones who need to get it together, sit down and say "this is not working, what can we do" and make an alternate arrangement for a child who himself says he has anger problems.
If those involved would care about the child's best interests they would make proper arrangements and this would never happen. These folks need to look at what happened here and learn from it.
All you people justifying the police actions here make me sick to the bowls of my stomach if someone did that to my child god help them.
Originally posted by Whirpool
Hes probably a reincarnation of somekind of Demon lol, he even said "its just who i am".