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Originally posted by hp1229
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by hp1229
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by hp1229
I dont agree with your opinion and you dont agree with mine. Lets just leave it at that.
You can justify all you want to prove your point and thats fine.
Its sad if you consider my comments as insults.
I'm not asking you to agree with my opinion. Im asking you to speak on the facts, which you still havent. Every single time you are presented with a fact you turn to personal attacks or deflections.
As for being sad, well, the mod sure didnt think your comments were appropriate either....whats sad is being so brainwashed that you cant follow a logical path of thinking and have to resort to strawmen, namecalling and backhanded insults.
What makes you think I'm the one who is brainwashed ?
2nd line.
Your posts. Duh.
2nd line.
I guess you didnt get my point of counter question. That explains the institutionalized response.
You still havn't answered my questions. Would you let your adult children be prostitutes ? or your spouse? I'm not sure if you're married or have kids or any of that.
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by hp1229
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by hp1229
Is that too bad to ask or strive for in a society ? What is wrong with monogomy ? or Marriage ?edit on 28-3-2011 by hp1229 because: (no reason given)
There you go again pushing your beliefs as though they should be the way for everyone.
marriage is a religious institute.
Some people believe in polygamy.
You go ahead and do those things. Please tell me why you feel everyone else should have to.
I am not pushing anything. I am simply asking counter questions.
I did not type 'You should practice monogomy" to indicate that I am imposing my values onto others
You are offering monogamy as a reason prostitution should not be legal. Or trying, at least. After you have offered morals, economy, and cultural reason, all of which have been shot down.
edit on 28-3-2011 by captaintyinknots because: (no reason given)
It is very sad, and let's not forget that many of these young men and women do it to support their drug habits.
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by hp1229
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by hp1229
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by hp1229
I dont agree with your opinion and you dont agree with mine. Lets just leave it at that.
You can justify all you want to prove your point and thats fine.
Its sad if you consider my comments as insults.
I'm not asking you to agree with my opinion. Im asking you to speak on the facts, which you still havent. Every single time you are presented with a fact you turn to personal attacks or deflections.
As for being sad, well, the mod sure didnt think your comments were appropriate either....whats sad is being so brainwashed that you cant follow a logical path of thinking and have to resort to strawmen, namecalling and backhanded insults.
What makes you think I'm the one who is brainwashed ?
2nd line.
Your posts. Duh.
2nd line.
I guess you didnt get my point of counter question. That explains the institutionalized response.
You still havn't answered my questions. Would you let your adult children be prostitutes ? or your spouse? I'm not sure if you're married or have kids or any of that.
I'm sorry, when those questions come as a rebuttal to the questions I asked, without any form of actual conversation involved, it becomes clear you are simply deflecting.
And actually I did answer, but since you seem to have issues with comprehension, Ill say it again.
I have no right to 'let' or 'not let' another adult do what they choose to do with their body. To think anyone has the right to do so is a VERY sad statement on what you think marriage and relationships mean.
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by Stormdancer777
If prostitution were legal, then it would be safer for the girls and the johns. When prostitution is illegal, it greatly inhibits calling law enforcement, so pimps become necessary, and the workers are far more vulnerable to abuse. Also, when it is illegal, it is more likely to see children in the trade.
Legalizing prostitution would be a far better situation for those working the trade, and their customers.
Keeping prostitution illegal only serves the purposes of the criminal elements, and justifies jobs for police, judges, ect..
If you are honestly concerned about safety, then you should support legalization.
So you trust government regulations?
ha
I hear that argument a lot, I highly doubt it would change much,
So no one posting is a prostitute or seeks out prostitutes?
Still waiting for your answer....we have all obliged you, why do you continue to ignore?
what answer is that?
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by Stormdancer777
If prostitution were legal, then it would be safer for the girls and the johns. When prostitution is illegal, it greatly inhibits calling law enforcement, so pimps become necessary, and the workers are far more vulnerable to abuse. Also, when it is illegal, it is more likely to see children in the trade.
Legalizing prostitution would be a far better situation for those working the trade, and their customers.
Keeping prostitution illegal only serves the purposes of the criminal elements, and justifies jobs for police, judges, ect..
If you are honestly concerned about safety, then you should support legalization.
So you trust government regulations?
ha
I hear that argument a lot, I highly doubt it would change much,
So no one posting is a prostitute or seeks out prostitutes?
Still waiting for your answer....we have all obliged you, why do you continue to ignore?
what answer is that?
For the third time:
I agree that there are abuses in the sex industry. Do you agree that many of these abuses happen do to lack of regulation and safe environments?
Originally posted by hp1229
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by hp1229
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by hp1229
I dont agree with your opinion and you dont agree with mine. Lets just leave it at that.
You can justify all you want to prove your point and thats fine.
Its sad if you consider my comments as insults.
I'm not asking you to agree with my opinion. Im asking you to speak on the facts, which you still havent. Every single time you are presented with a fact you turn to personal attacks or deflections.
As for being sad, well, the mod sure didnt think your comments were appropriate either....whats sad is being so brainwashed that you cant follow a logical path of thinking and have to resort to strawmen, namecalling and backhanded insults.
What makes you think I'm the one who is brainwashed ?
2nd line.
Your posts. Duh.
2nd line.
I guess you didnt get my point of counter question. That explains the institutionalized response.
You still havn't answered my questions. Would you let your adult children be prostitutes ? or your spouse? I'm not sure if you're married or have kids or any of that.
Originally posted by hp1229
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by hp1229
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by hp1229
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by hp1229
I dont agree with your opinion and you dont agree with mine. Lets just leave it at that.
You can justify all you want to prove your point and thats fine.
Its sad if you consider my comments as insults.
I'm not asking you to agree with my opinion. Im asking you to speak on the facts, which you still havent. Every single time you are presented with a fact you turn to personal attacks or deflections.
As for being sad, well, the mod sure didnt think your comments were appropriate either....whats sad is being so brainwashed that you cant follow a logical path of thinking and have to resort to strawmen, namecalling and backhanded insults.
What makes you think I'm the one who is brainwashed ?
2nd line.
Your posts. Duh.
2nd line.
I guess you didnt get my point of counter question. That explains the institutionalized response.
You still havn't answered my questions. Would you let your adult children be prostitutes ? or your spouse? I'm not sure if you're married or have kids or any of that.
I'm sorry, when those questions come as a rebuttal to the questions I asked, without any form of actual conversation involved, it becomes clear you are simply deflecting.
And actually I did answer, but since you seem to have issues with comprehension, Ill say it again.
I have no right to 'let' or 'not let' another adult do what they choose to do with their body. To think anyone has the right to do so is a VERY sad statement on what you think marriage and relationships mean.
That answers my questions.
Wow. What a world we're living in where a parent/husband doesnt mind if the children and spouse take up the profession of prostitution. Whatever happened to owning upto social and family responsibility.edit on 28-3-2011 by hp1229 because: (no reason given)
Human trafficking and sexual slavery
Main articles: Human trafficking and Sexual slavery
Today, human trafficking is primarily for prostituting women and children.[35] It is described as "the largest slave trade in history"[36] and is the fastest growing form of contemporary slavery.[37] It is also the fastest growing criminal industry, set to outgrow drug trafficking.[35][38][clarification needed] While there are more slaves today than at any time in history, global population is also much larger. As a proportion of population the number is most likely the smallest in history.[39]
“Annually, according to U.S. Government-sponsored research completed in 2006, approximately 800,000 people are trafficked across national borders, which does not include millions trafficked within their own countries. Approximately 80 percent of transnational victims are women and girls and up to 50 percent are minors,” reports the US Department of State in a 2008 study.[40] Due to the illegal and underground nature of sex trafficking, the exact extent of women and children forced into prostitution is unknown.
The White Slave by Abastenia St. Leger Eberle
Children are sold into the global sex trade every year. Often they are kidnapped or orphaned, and sometimes they are sold by their own families. According to the International Labour Organization, the problem is especially alarming in Thailand, the Philippines, Sri Lanka, Vietnam, Cambodia, Nepal and India.[41]
Poverty, social exclusion and war are at the heart of human trafficking. Some women[who?] are hoodwinked into believing promises of a better life, sometimes by people who are known and trusted to them. Traffickers may own legitimate travel agencies, modeling agencies and employment offices in order to gain women's trust. Others are simply kidnapped. Once overseas it is common for their passport to be confiscated by the trafficker and to be warned of the consequences should they attempt to escape, including beatings, rape, threats of violence against their family and death threats. It is common, particularly in Eastern Europe, that should they manage to return to their families they will only be trafficked once again.[citation needed]
Globally, forced labour generates $31bn, half of it in the industrialised world, a tenth in transition countries, the International Labour Organization says in a report on forced labour ("A global alliance against forced labour", ILO, 11 May 2005).[42] Trafficking in people has been facilitated by porous borders and advanced communication technologies, it has become increasingly transnational in scope and highly lucrative within its barbarity.
In some countries[which?] counseling, accommodation, specialist care exists for trafficked people to help them escape, whilst in other countries[which?], this support is lacking and individuals are often treated as illegal immigrants and deported.
The most common destinations for victims of human trafficking are Thailand, Japan, Israel, Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany, Italy, Turkey and the US, according to a report by the UNODC (UN Office on Drugs and Crime).[43]
en.wikipedia.org...
The major sources of trafficked persons include Thailand, China, Nigeria, Albania, Bulgaria, Belarus, Moldova and Ukraine.[43]
Originally posted by hp1229
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by hp1229
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by hp1229
Is that too bad to ask or strive for in a society ? What is wrong with monogomy ? or Marriage ?edit on 28-3-2011 by hp1229 because: (no reason given)
There you go again pushing your beliefs as though they should be the way for everyone.
marriage is a religious institute.
Some people believe in polygamy.
You go ahead and do those things. Please tell me why you feel everyone else should have to.
I am not pushing anything. I am simply asking counter questions.
I did not type 'You should practice monogomy" to indicate that I am imposing my values onto others
You are offering monogamy as a reason prostitution should not be legal. Or trying, at least. After you have offered morals, economy, and cultural reason, all of which have been shot down.
edit on 28-3-2011 by captaintyinknots because: (no reason given)
It is not your fault. It is the culture that you have been brought up with.
Monogamy is not a reason but a cure for seeking external pleasure with unknown individual for sexual pleasure. To me sex is not merely a urge or need but also respect.
Just by typing few responses and feeling better indicating that all I have offered was shot down on ATS doesnt hide the truth from the self conscious
Originally posted by vschnz
reply to post by TheAmused
Well, I dont know were u from but at least in Europe, prostitution is legal.. Well, at least in Holland, France,Germany,Belgium and Switzerland
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Originally posted by vschnz
reply to post by TheAmused
Well, I dont know were u from but at least in Europe, prostitution is legal.. Well, at least in Holland, France,Germany,Belgium and Switzerland
Oh yea in one of those countries, it isn't illegal to pay for a prostitute but the prostitute can still be prosecuted,
Seems fair to me.
Originally posted by unityemissions
reply to post by neowakko
I'm not pretending it's not happening, I'm pointing out how demoralized and boxed many of you guys are. You guys are saying that because it happens, it must be acceptable. That's idiotic. IF our society had an intact moral structure still, society WOULD shun these bastards, and our species WOULD become stronger over time.
I think this thread is just another great example of what I like to call "left-brained idiocy".
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Originally posted by vschnz
reply to post by TheAmused
Well, I dont know were u from but at least in Europe, prostitution is legal.. Well, at least in Holland, France,Germany,Belgium and Switzerland
Oh yea in one of those countries, it isn't illegal to pay for a prostitute but the prostitute can still be prosecuted,
Seems fair to me.